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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Why are there three women in that pic?

Forster is obviously England's best keeper, but I'm glad it'll be Hart.

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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Blue Star Error posted:

I like Vardy but this is a bit mental. Kane should be first name on the team sheet his finishing is astonishing

And Vardy's hasn't been this season?

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Spangly A posted:

England don't pick players on form

except danny drinkwater

If Leicester don't win the league with his getting motm in their last game he won't make the tournament squad.

Jack Wilshere will be fit by then(?)

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

track day bro! posted:

I heard that footballs coming home, can anyone confirm this ITT?

I'm sure England will find a way to claim Gareth Bale's victory as their own, don't worry.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Southgate

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Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Why does everyone love Wilshere so much

He's the only decent technical footballer in England. Shame he's dumb as a brush and made of matchsticks.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Jose posted:

its not a bad idea to sub vardy later in the match so he can run and chase players in their own box like he did tonight. he should start though

Why is it a better idea to get him on to do that late instead of doing it all game like he does for leicester?

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Tony Pulis wouldn't look conservative in Italy, Roy.

He'd also win the league every year with ease.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Jose posted:

dele alli is really good

He's a dirty little oval office and it'll be trouble when fussy continental refs start watching him. Right now though it's still pretty funny.

Nailed on for a Beckham villain moment this summer.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
A fully fit Pooney is the 4th best English striker in the Prem, and the ~30th best midfielder if that's how Roy wants to shoehorn him into the team.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

dex_sda posted:

Kane, Vardy, ???

A pain-free Sturridge.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

track day bro! posted:

I don't think it's coming home hth.

You can visit football when it's living over here. Just bring some change for the bridge.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Bosnia are good and I'm glad they forgot that for most of qualifying.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Vardy on the wing is classic England selection policy lmao

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Hodgson will try to play Barkley as a holding mid again.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Jack Cork should be going as backup to Dier because he's a nice lad who tries hard and specialises in that exact job unlike international holding midfielders Jack Wilshere, Ross Barkley and Jonjo Shelvey.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Breath Ray posted:

How many goals does Stones have to give away for club and country before ppl get off his, well, stones?

He's a "good ball-player" though

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Insanely Sikh posted:

It's not like Cahill is going to stop anything - at least Stones can carry the ball but the difference between the two is marginal in attack and defence

Cahill doesn't regularly create chances for the opposition when put under pressure.

Stones has showed no signs of learning so far. In 5 years we'll look back at his inclusion in the England team and laugh.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
There's a good first 11 in that squad and nothing more.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Someone code tag an England B team built around Noble, Antonio and Carroll tia

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Hoops posted:

look at how many of them were lauded as incredible prospects when they were slightly younger.

This is Roy's entire selection process.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Jack Wilshere got turned inside out by half of Wales u18s a few weeks ago.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

britishbornandbread posted:

Actual lol at anyone thinking England won't win this group with at least seven points.

E
A
S
Y

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

britishbornandbread posted:

Can't wait to see Vardy and Kane absolutely clown that shithouse fraud Williams so much he cries like a lil b*tch

Ashley Williams ended Vardy's goalscoring run. Kane wet himself so badly defending a corner from big Ash that he sliced it into his own net.

Rooney is unironically England's only hope.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

britishbornandbread posted:

Wales have the most expensive player in the world playing the best football of his life at Real Madrid, and Joe Allen.

That's a Joe Allen better than Portugal have ever had.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
There are at least ten English midfielders in the Premier League better at the job than Rooney has been when playing there for United this season.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Kane looked bad and Vardy's going to get sent off for diving at the Euros.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Monday Bandele posted:

This raises a question about international football that I don't know the answer to - is it better to pick a squad based on the last three months of form or a squad that you've been shaping together across years of qualifiers and friendlies?

The only objection I have is that John Stones is barely Premier League level and has the potential to actively harm the team whenever he's on the pitch

Trying to develop players and a team at national level is dumb. Any manager interested in that kind of thing should go find a club.

For years England have been obsessed with introducing young players with "potential" into the national side, and now they're all still getting picked despite not being able to get into their club sides all season.

It can help when all the players know each other and are used to playing with one another, but it's still better to have quality players, and the countries with tiny player pools like Wales and Iceland would trade all that togetherness for as many top flight players as England have in a heartbeat.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

sweek0 posted:

It's obviously not that black and white but I would say that team togetherness is as important as quality of individual players. Obviously you need both, but there have been plenty of examples of well managed national teams without superstars outperforming teams studded with stars.

Usually when the "stars" are all past it or out of form or were big and strong for an 18 year old so everyone assumed they had potential to become a great footballer.

Half the England team peaked at 20.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
worldstar

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

EC10 posted:

i forgot that Barkley was included in the pack of poo poo midfielders that didn't deserve to displace Drinkwater, loving lol at that. what's he done this season from central midfield, score 3-4 good goals and spend the rest of the time being poo poo for the team that finished 11th?

He was 6'2 and 185 at 16, he'll have an england spot for life.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Spangly A posted:

asking Jamie Vardy to assist the fullbacks is unforgiveably stupid

his whole existence is a loving counter threat, why would you even call him up if you're not going to let him do his job

That's how a diamond works. Good job not calling up any wingers.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
John Stones is the new Gavin Hoyte

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Always the victims
It's never their fault

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Koesj posted:

France is Belgium

Belgium is Holland

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

opus111 posted:

No, because they have to score too.

Iceland have scored more goals than England in this tournament.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
It's coming home

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

quote:

There's already a petition to get the game replayed because people in London didn't like the result.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Smirr posted:

"What is football, come on man"

Keep your fetishes to yourself tia

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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

quote:

Not entirely sure why the Wales players are celebrating like that when they all have mates and club teammates in the England squad.

Also the Iceland squad, love.

gently caress the English.

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