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cailleask
May 6, 2007



A friend of mine stuffs cheap plastic bins with a bunch of straw (and maybe like a tea towel??) to make houses for feral cats during the outrageous cold. Also puts out a ton of high calorie food. That might be within your price range? Bales of hay or straw are cheap-ish.

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Comrade Cakewalk
Nov 4, 2006
Win a cake for the motherland.

I. M. Gei posted:

hi how do I keep the 10 to 15 outdoor feral cats that hang out in my garage during bad weather from freezing to death during the 96+ straight hours of record-breaking below-freezing cold we’re about to get, with very little money (maybe $70 to $80 max, and preferably much lower)?
I have a bunch of plastic bins I cut entrance holes in and filled with straw. Like $5/bin and maybe $10 for a mini bale at tractor supply. It doesn't get quite as cold here, but the kitties use them when it gets into the 40s and below.

Edit: how about a cat pic

This here is Pearl. I trapped her at a sushi restaurant downtown and tamed her. She was hard to let go, she became soooooooo sweet. I could pick her up and she would just go limp in my arms. I'm sure she's making someone very happy right now, though

Comrade Cakewalk fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Feb 12, 2021

mistaya
Oct 18, 2006

Cat of Wealth and Taste



n'thing "get some straw." I've heard from farm-folks that blankets can be a no-go since they'll hold moisture and make the animals even colder, but straw really does the trick. If they're out of the wind on straw-beds they'll be alright. Also yeah just get one of those big bags of cheap food and leave a bucket of it out there for them.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

I fear the man who has hit one dinger ten thousand times.




Chaosfeather posted:

I have no idea but since this seems to be an immediate problem here are my thoughts:

I am guessing a box they can hide in with an electric blanket + some other towel or warmth to cuddle up to is too expensive, given the number of cats. Plus I don't know what that electric bill would look like, even if you have accessible outlets in your garage.

Can you make 'outdoor cat shelters' to put in your garage? If your garage stays closed it won't get quite as cold as outside, and the inside of the shelters should be slightly warmer than that, especially if some of them cuddle up. A steady supply of food so they can keep building up energy to burn off should help, too. A quick google involves styrofoam, rubber maid totes, duct tape, straw and a knife. Those individually are pretty affordable if you can get your hands on them, but I don't know if you have those in easy reach.

If you don't mind taking trips to your garage if you warm up the wet food that might help them be encouraged to eat it and digest it (while warming them in the process for a small while).

If you can get it shipped to you a heated water dish might help, too.

cailleask posted:

A friend of mine stuffs cheap plastic bins with a bunch of straw (and maybe like a tea towel??) to make houses for feral cats during the outrageous cold. Also puts out a ton of high calorie food. That might be within your price range? Bales of hay or straw are cheap-ish.

Comrade Cakewalk posted:

I have a bunch of plastic bins I cut entrance holes in and filled with straw. Like $5/bin and maybe $10 for a mini bale at tractor supply. It doesn't get quite as cold here, but the kitties use them when it gets into the 40s and below.

mistaya posted:

n'thing "get some straw." I've heard from farm-folks that blankets can be a no-go since they'll hold moisture and make the animals even colder, but straw really does the trick. If they're out of the wind on straw-beds they'll be alright. Also yeah just get one of those big bags of cheap food and leave a bucket of it out there for them.

Thanks everyone for the tips!

I went by Tractor Supply and picked up a little bale of bedding straw, and I got a big box (3’x3’x2’) to put a bunch of it in. I figured a box would be easier to cut a hole in than a plastic bin and maybe a little bit cheaper for the size, but I might’ve been wrong; if so then I can still run out and get a bin.

I also picked up a second Vornado heater fan, since that was pretty much the only kind of heater (within my price range) that I could get at a store near me. It cost like $60 but I’m planning to return it once this cold weather is over (I got it at BB&B so I doubt they’ll care).

We feed these cats at least twice a day and our garage door is likely gonna stay down throughout the cold. There’s one door and one window to the outside that we leave open for the cats to come and go through; the door is gonna stay most of the way shut. There’s little alcoves the cats can go into that are blocked from the wind, and we’re gonna lay some of the straw in at least one or two of those spots. I also still have the two heating pads if I need to add more heat anywhere.

I just checked the temperature in the garage (with a Thermapen ) and it’s about 52°. Or 43° if you believe the temperature of the cats’ water dish. The outside temperature is around 30°, give or take a couple degrees.

Anne Whateley posted:

Here is a list of 12 organizations in east Texas that work with feral cats, that can help you more than we can now. Most of them do TNR so you can get around to that, too.

Oh yeah, about that. Our neighbor has been helping us out with the spay/neuter thing and several of the cats have been fixed now. I can’t give an exact number since some of them were taken care of by him and he hasn’t been keeping an exact count, but we think it’s around 8 or so. Still a way to go, but progress!

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

I fear the man who has hit one dinger ten thousand times.




UPDATE: Cats appear to be doing fine so far. I took a bunch of pics of my “shelter” setup that I meant to post earlier; I’ll try to post those today.

Of note, the garage seems to be staying above freezing even when the outside temp is below 32°. The water in the cats’ water dish has stayed liquid almost this whole time and has only iced up once or twice when the temperature got down to the low single-digits, and replaced that water with fresh hot water and turned on the heater fans when that happened.

The coldest weather has now passed and things should start to warm up tomorrow or Friday. The snow and ice might take a few days to fully melt after that, but at least the air won’t be below freezing all day long anymore. I’ll return the second Vornado heater as soon as the roads are de-iced and safe to drive on.

wheatpuppy
Apr 25, 2008

YOU HAVE MY POST!

I. M. Gei posted:

UPDATE: Cats appear to be doing fine so far. I took a bunch of pics of my “shelter” setup that I meant to post earlier; I’ll try to post those today.

Of note, the garage seems to be staying above freezing even when the outside temp is below 32°. The water in the cats’ water dish has stayed liquid almost this whole time and has only iced up once or twice when the temperature got down to the low single-digits, and replaced that water with fresh hot water and turned on the heater fans when that happened.

The coldest weather has now passed and things should start to warm up tomorrow or Friday. The snow and ice might take a few days to fully melt after that, but at least the air won’t be below freezing all day long anymore. I’ll return the second Vornado heater as soon as the roads are de-iced and safe to drive on.

Yay, glad the cats are ok. You're good people.

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 25, 2007

Never Stop Posting.



Oh i've got a post.

I just adopted an 80 lb black lab about a month ago. Cooper was dumped in Arkansas, he's 2 and he was found at a Sonic, begging for hot dogs. He had microfilaria so he had to stay in arkansas for fast-kill treatment.

19 years and finally I have a dog again. I'm complete once more.

http://imgur.com/a/G1tvnWG

He's very good and loves bellyscratches and showing off at his obedience class.

Comrade Cakewalk
Nov 4, 2006
Win a cake for the motherland.

Nice The best dog I ever had was a black lab mutt my brother found in a parking lot. Very smart, but also loyal and obedient, so she wouldn't get into naughty trouble the way smart dogs often do. She could do a bunch of tricks, including agility stuff and catching frisbees. The very best dog.

Bippie Mishap
Oct 12, 2012




wrong thread

Bippie Mishap fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Feb 27, 2021

Comrade Cakewalk
Nov 4, 2006
Win a cake for the motherland.

I finally got rid of all my kittens last week. First they were too small, then ringworm, then URIs. The adoption shelter almost didn't take them because 1 had a little scab behind an ear they thought could be ringworm. After a bunch of photos and calls to the vet, they decided it wasn't and took the kittens. PHEW!


Let's see how long it is before someone else brings me kittens in a shoebox.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeeey




Congratulations on a successful foster! Even if it sounds like it was involuntary.

Comrade Cakewalk
Nov 4, 2006
Win a cake for the motherland.

Lol, is it ever really voluntary?


Ben being a doof

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009




Lipstick Apathy

I have a feisty, bouncy foster cat who came into foster care because his previous owner was beating him up. His bruises have gone down and, apart from a few old scars, the vet believes there's no long-term damage.

There are still coronavirus restrictions where I live so the lack of adoption plans hasn't surprised me, but one of the staff happened to mention that they aren't sure what's going to happen with him. He's a 2 year old, perfectly healthy, gorgeous cat and he'd be snapped up within minutes as a perfect family pet. The only possible thing is that they're worried about his former owner finding him, but this can't be an insurmountable obstacle to adoption? The last I heard the staff were 'having a meeting with the manager' of the fostering agency, but if there was a decision then it wasn't communicated to me.

Is this....normal? It seems very cloak-and-dagger.

No photos with this post because I've been asked not to put any online.

wheatpuppy
Apr 25, 2008

YOU HAVE MY POST!

Lady Demelza posted:

I have a feisty, bouncy foster cat who came into foster care because his previous owner was beating him up. His bruises have gone down and, apart from a few old scars, the vet believes there's no long-term damage.

There are still coronavirus restrictions where I live so the lack of adoption plans hasn't surprised me, but one of the staff happened to mention that they aren't sure what's going to happen with him. He's a 2 year old, perfectly healthy, gorgeous cat and he'd be snapped up within minutes as a perfect family pet. The only possible thing is that they're worried about his former owner finding him, but this can't be an insurmountable obstacle to adoption? The last I heard the staff were 'having a meeting with the manager' of the fostering agency, but if there was a decision then it wasn't communicated to me.

Is this....normal? It seems very cloak-and-dagger.

No photos with this post because I've been asked not to put any online.

I have never heard of that with a cat, but I recall some local humane society drama around a dog that had been seized from an abusive owner. They later tried to use a 3rd party go-between to adopt the dog as soon as it went up on the website. It probably would have worked if their chosen representative hadn't vented to the shelter staff about how the seizure was all a big misunderstanding and "Gary would never" and how she was going to make things right.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010


Lady Demelza posted:

I have a feisty, bouncy foster cat who came into foster care because his previous owner was beating him up. His bruises have gone down and, apart from a few old scars, the vet believes there's no long-term damage.

There are still coronavirus restrictions where I live so the lack of adoption plans hasn't surprised me, but one of the staff happened to mention that they aren't sure what's going to happen with him. He's a 2 year old, perfectly healthy, gorgeous cat and he'd be snapped up within minutes as a perfect family pet. The only possible thing is that they're worried about his former owner finding him, but this can't be an insurmountable obstacle to adoption? The last I heard the staff were 'having a meeting with the manager' of the fostering agency, but if there was a decision then it wasn't communicated to me.

Is this....normal? It seems very cloak-and-dagger.

No photos with this post because I've been asked not to put any online.
Adopt the cat yourself

sneakyfrog
Mar 16, 2011





Fan of Britches

A big flaming stink posted:

Adopt the cat yourself

Comrade Cakewalk
Nov 4, 2006
Win a cake for the motherland.

wheatpuppy posted:

I have never heard of that with a cat, but I recall some local humane society drama around a dog that had been seized from an abusive owner. They later tried to use a 3rd party go-between to adopt the dog as soon as it went up on the website. It probably would have worked if their chosen representative hadn't vented to the shelter staff about how the seizure was all a big misunderstanding and "Gary would never" and how she was going to make things right.
Maybe if the cat was used for breeding or something, but I'm sure they'll sterilize it before homing it. My aunt took-in an abused stud dog and the people relentlessly harassed her to get him back until she told them she'd had him neutered, then they hosed off.

People are such trash.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009




Lipstick Apathy

A big flaming stink posted:

Adopt the cat yourself

The fosterers always get first refusal, but I'm wondering if they've got something else in mind, because they seem to be implying that might not be an option.

Reading all your replies, I'm convinced it's because of the abusive owner situation. Oh well, I'm sure they'll come up with a solution eventually.

fuzzy_logic
May 2, 2009

unfortunately hideous and irreverislbe



There's a random little cat that's been popping up in my yard the past few days crying sadly all hours of the day and night. I figured it was someone's pet that got lost but got a good look at him today and he has a snipped left ear and had gotten in a fight, poor guy. I contacted the local feral cat people to see if they know him, but is there anything I can do for the guy in the meantime? Is he separated from his colony, or get kicked out, or what happened that he's wandering around yards crying all day? I originally figured he was indoor because he's all dirty and sad and approaches me (though not too close) when I call out to him. I'm not normally a big cat person but the little guy's pulling at my heartstrings, he seems to be having a really bad time.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



fuzzy_logic posted:

There's a random little cat that's been popping up in my yard the past few days crying sadly all hours of the day and night. I figured it was someone's pet that got lost but got a good look at him today and he has a snipped left ear and had gotten in a fight, poor guy. I contacted the local feral cat people to see if they know him, but is there anything I can do for the guy in the meantime? Is he separated from his colony, or get kicked out, or what happened that he's wandering around yards crying all day? I originally figured he was indoor because he's all dirty and sad and approaches me (though not too close) when I call out to him. I'm not normally a big cat person but the little guy's pulling at my heartstrings, he seems to be having a really bad time.

Is it possible to make a temporary home for him in a bathroom to give him a chance to recover and get back up to fighting weight? Just because he has an ear notch doesn’t mean he’s feral—if you make friends with him, he might turn out to be a former pet who ran away or who was dumped.

Haji
Nov 15, 2005

Haj Paj

fuzzy_logic posted:

There's a random little cat that's been popping up in my yard the past few days crying sadly all hours of the day and night. I figured it was someone's pet that got lost but got a good look at him today and he has a snipped left ear and had gotten in a fight, poor guy. I contacted the local feral cat people to see if they know him, but is there anything I can do for the guy in the meantime? Is he separated from his colony, or get kicked out, or what happened that he's wandering around yards crying all day? I originally figured he was indoor because he's all dirty and sad and approaches me (though not too close) when I call out to him. I'm not normally a big cat person but the little guy's pulling at my heartstrings, he seems to be having a really bad time.

He may have tamed and become a pet after getting neutered. I was able to tame and find homes for my entire feral colony except 2 cats after I got them all fixed. Getting rid of the hormones tends to calm them down enough that they're willing to interact with people afterward. Just because his ear is snipped doesn't mean he doesn't have a family. He might even be an indoor only kitty now

mistaya
Oct 18, 2006

Cat of Wealth and Taste



If you can get some cheap cat tins from the store you can probably put some wet food on a paper plate and tempt him over to check him a little better and see if those wounds are infected. Even if you can't keep him inside some food will go a long way, and you might be able to stroke him and check his injuries. It'll depend if he lets you but if he's wandering the neighborhood crying there's a strong possibility he's either starving or in pain.

fuzzy_logic
May 2, 2009

unfortunately hideous and irreverislbe



I offered him some canned food and he licked at it and ignored it, so he's not starving at least and his face looks a lot better today. He gave me a chirp :3
He's been marking around the yard and the fighting in the driveway seems less frequent so maybe he's established a little territory here apart from the neighborhood cats. The landlord's been around a lot lately and would probably not appreciate my encouraging a stray to hang around so putting out a shelter or anything is going to wait but he seems ok to hang out for awhile.

update: according to a neighbor, someone's indoor cat may be in heat, so there's multiple random male cats hanging around the neighborhood and howling trying to locate her, so that explains the screaming and the turning everyone's driveway into kittycat thunderdome anyway. I'm guessing these horny idiots aren't going to be able to make their own way home once this blows over?

fuzzy_logic fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Apr 5, 2021

Haji
Nov 15, 2005

Haj Paj

fuzzy_logic posted:

update: according to a neighbor, someone's indoor cat may be in heat, so there's multiple random male cats hanging around the neighborhood and howling trying to locate her, so that explains the screaming and the turning everyone's driveway into kittycat thunderdome anyway. I'm guessing these horny idiots aren't going to be able to make their own way home once this blows over?

This is exactly why I started TNR. Listening to all those cat fights was really stressing me out. Happily my county offers free spay/neuter surgery and a free rabies shot to any stray or feral cat you can catch. You might look around and see if your area does something similar. Your local shelter would know and would like be the source of the free or discount services. They'll likely even have traps to lend to you.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004



The highlights of my TNR project tonight included the woman who's house we were at showing us the bags with the ashes of cats she's going to be buried with and her going leaving food outside of the trap we had set for the cats because she felt so bad about us telling her not to feed them for 24 hours before we tried to get them.

Haji
Nov 15, 2005

Haj Paj

mcmagic posted:

The highlights of my TNR project tonight included the woman who's house we were at showing us the bags with the ashes of cats she's going to be buried with and her going leaving food outside of the trap we had set for the cats because she felt so bad about us telling her not to feed them for 24 hours before we tried to get them.

Yeah. I can't deal with other people and their weird issues. I basically TNRd my neighborhood against the wishes of some neighbors. I have a few neighbors that also let their dogs run free. I know I neutered at least one neighbors pet. People suck. I'm sorry you're dealing with crazy. But good on you for doing TNR

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004



Haji posted:

Yeah. I can't deal with other people and their weird issues. I basically TNRd my neighborhood against the wishes of some neighbors. I have a few neighbors that also let their dogs run free. I know I neutered at least one neighbors pet. People suck. I'm sorry you're dealing with crazy. But good on you for doing TNR

lol it's fine. It's a funny story and we prevented at least 3 preggo moms from having kittens outside.

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Haji
Nov 15, 2005

Haj Paj

mcmagic posted:

lol it's fine. It's a funny story and we prevented at least 3 preggo moms from having kittens outside.

Rock on! That's a huge win

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