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KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Since we've covered the existential dread of the midwest and the sheer horror of The Deep South, it's time to look at the best region in the United States that is not the West Coast, the Southwest. Which does not include Oklahoma and Texas and I will fight anyone who says it does.


The view from the top of El Morro in New Mexico.

An ivy covered doorway in the Mayhew Lodge ruins in Oak Creek Canyon outside Sedona. Walt Disney stayed here once.

The Mogollon Rim by Wagner Hill in Arizona, if you like big, steep cliffs.

The Tucson Mountains in Saguaro National Park.

The Salt River just above Roosevelt Dam in Arizona. This is where Phoenix gets it's water.

The Aldo Leopold Wilderness just outside Silver City, New Mexico.

A pretty grasshopper hanging out near Fort Apache.

The headwaters of the Gila River in New Mexico. Geronimo was born somewhere around here.

Central Phoenix at night as viewed from South Mountain.

The Dolores River in Colorado.

A little canal outside Montezuma's Well in Arizona.

Aaloosaktukwi outside Flagstaff in July. There's always permafrost on the peak.

The Floyd Volcano field viewed from the hilltop ruins of Walavudu in Arizona.

The ruins of Casa Grande Compound A in Coolidge, Arizona. The only reason to ever go to Coolidge.

Kinishba on the White Mountain Apache Reservation during a summer rainstorm.

The pool at El Morro, New Mexico during a winter snow fall. The Spanish learned about this place from the Zuni and stopped here when going between old Mexico and Santa Fe, it's covered in Spanish, native and American carvings.

The Sierra Ancha Mountains and Schoolhouse Point platform mound ruins at sunset in the Tonto Basin, Arizona.
So we've got a bit of everything not-coastal. We've got snow, mountains, forests, rivers, deserts and hiking. And loads of old, old history. But we also have something even better.

The skeleton of the dinosaur that killed Dennis Nedry. So post your pictures of the American Southwest ITT, post your stories and please don't judge us by Phoenix, those guys are idiots.

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Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
The Southwest is super cool. We just need to figure out a way to kill every person who lives there and it'll be perfect.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Bip Roberts posted:

The Southwest is super cool. We just need to figure out a way to kill every person who lives there and it'll be perfect.

Hey, there might be some mexican immigrants who haven't been there long enough to become permanently terrible.

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
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Shaquin
May 12, 2007

beautiful

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

This is what them Southwest actually looks like.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


du -hast posted:

This is what them Southwest actually looks like.

Rural blight is not unique to us, but yeah, the plateau has been p. much abandoned. Doesn't help most of it is reservation. Also, east New Mexico barely counts, that poo poo is on the plains. Texas and Oklahoma can go gently caress themselves.

Shaquin
May 12, 2007
seems to me you are saying just posts pictures of mesas

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Shaquin posted:

seems to me you are saying just posts pictures of mesas

A vast empty wilderness with Phoenix, Tucson and Albuquerque thrown in there. That's pretty much it.

Though

there

used

to

be

more

people. 500 years of disease and forced relocation tend drive the numbers down a bit.

Shaquin
May 12, 2007
Cliff Palace is rad as hell

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Shaquin posted:

Cliff Palace is rad as hell



Spruce Tree House and Long House are also pretty sweet.

Cliff Palace has this sweet mural though.

Shaquin
May 12, 2007
the united states are undoubtedly under a native american curse

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Shaquin posted:

the united states are undoubtedly under a native american curse

I studied archaeology with an emphasis in Hohokam, which is Maricopa County. The entire county, especially Phoenix, is built over towns and graveyards. I assume that is why we are cursed with Joe.


Pueblo Grande platform mound and the head gates of Canal System 2, the biggest canal system north of Peru prior to the Spanish. Both are right next to Sky Harbor.


Mesa Grande platform mound and the Lehi canals in the middle of Mesa.


Some petroglyphs and some red-on-buff ceramics I found on Hayden Butte, right next to ASU. Fun fact: ASU is built entirely over a village called Plaza Tempe and the stadium is over a good chunk of the graveyard.

KiteAuraan fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Mar 24, 2016

Shaquin
May 12, 2007
I know the plague thing doing a number towards the southern US just before whitey showed up is common knowledge now but someone explained to me how the tribes up here in New England had trading networks and stuff a while back and were fairly well developed and a few details that made me legitimate white guilty for a couple days

Vaalrn
Jul 7, 2015
I drove through New Mexico on the I-40 last year. It looked like poo poo the entire way through. Arizona looked nice though, once I got into the rocky/forest area

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams
He got the high sign so he jumped a bus
And along the roads that wind on through
The hot Mojave and the Jericho
He'd start his whole life anew
And what he'd left behind he hadn't valued
Half as much as some things
He never knew

He got dropped off on a street in town
Where a grey old man looked him up and down and said
"Son this ain't no western movie matinee
And you're a long way off from yippee yi yay
Cause I can tell at a glance
You're not from 'round these parts
Got a green look about ya
And that's a gringo for starts
Sometimes the only thing a western savage understands
Are whiskey and rifles and an unarmed man like you."
"So you gotta keep on the move
And don't let that fancy paint fool you."

And then the old-timer pulled him close and said,
"You've come a long way, I know
You got a longer drive ahead
Through the bones of a buffalo
Through the claims of the western dead
And just like the spokes of a wheel
You'll spin 'round with the rest,
You'll hear the drums and the brush of steel,
You'll hear the call of the west."

Harshly awakened by the sound of six rounds
Of light caliber rifle fire followed minutes
Later by the booming of nine rounds from a
Heavier rifle
But you can't close off the wilderness
He heard the snick of a rifle bolt and found
Himself peering down the muzzle of a weapon
Held by a drunken liquor store owner
"There's a conflict," he said.
"There's a conflict between land and people
The people have to go.
They've come all the way out here to make mining
Claims, to do automobile body work, to gamble.
To take pictures, to not have to do laundry, to
Own a mini-bike, to have their own cb radios and
Air conditioning, good plumbing for sure, and to
Sell time life books and to work in a deli, to
Have some chili every morning and maybe, maybe
To own their own gas stations again and to take
Drugs and have some crazy sex, but above all,
Above all to have a fair shake, to get a piece of the
Rock and a slice of the pie and to spit out
The window of your car and not have the wind blow
It back in your face."

Now from the high timber line to the deserts dry
Who'll risk dangling on some hangman's tree
To stake their claims on these prairie plains
While they say this lunch is not had for free?
Just like the spokes of a wheel
Who'll spin 'round with the rest?
They'll hear the drums and the brush of steel
And I'll hear the call of the west
Call of the west

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007





Yea

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

Welcome to my life\world the years 1983 - 1998, 2002 - 2006, 2010 - 2013

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



Shaquin posted:

Cliff Palace is rad as hell

my favourite super mario world level

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012




ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



a starwar betamax posted:

Welcome to my life\world the years 1983 - 1998, 2002 - 2006, 2010 - 2013

You're the same age as my sister you can have relations with her if you want

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay

SAND STORM!!!!

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

ethanol posted:

You're the same age as my sister you can have relations with her if you want

She can hit me up on AIM: HoleRaper83

Navin Johnson
Mar 1, 2016

My family has property a few miles east of Stoner (uhuhuhuh.........he said Stoner) on the Dolores River. Great trout fishing! It's a lot farther down river from the picture of McPhee reservoir in the OP.

Navin Johnson fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Mar 24, 2016

Navin Johnson
Mar 1, 2016

Vaalrn posted:

I drove through New Mexico on the I-40 last year. It looked like poo poo the entire way through. Arizona looked nice though, once I got into the rocky/forest area

Flagstaff is pretty cool. I wanted to go to college at NAU because it's located there.










































I didn't go to college.

FartingBedpost
Aug 24, 2015





Vaalrn posted:

I drove through New Mexico on the I-40 last year. It looked like poo poo the entire way through. Arizona looked nice though, once I got into the rocky/forest area

I-40 takes you through Amarillo. It's the worst highway. The only part of it that's good before Flagstaff is Tijeras Canyon.

Flagstaff to LA is pretty though.

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Apr 15, 2002

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ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



I've heard doing the salt river tube ride and then getting a dui on the way home is considered cool and a rite of passage for Phoenicians can anybody confirm

Navin Johnson
Mar 1, 2016

Kiva's are pretty cool. Chill place to smoke out and no girls allowed. Great place to avoid female statements like "gather me a bundle of sticks" and "when was the last time you put venison on the table".

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Navin Johnson posted:

Kiva's are pretty cool. Chill place to smoke out and no girls allowed. Great place to avoid female statements like "gather me a bundle of sticks" and "when was the last time you put venison on the table".

You want kivas eh? I've got kivas.


Plaza kiva at Kinishba, AD 1250-1400. Western Pueblo/Mogollon.

Kiva at Badger House on Wetherill Mesa with a secret tunnel passage to a tower so you don't get trapped by attackers, AD 1258-1300. Mesa Verde Branch Ancestral Pueblo.

The Great Kiva at Lowry Pueblo, a Chacoan site from the McElmo Phase, AD 1085-1170. Chaco Branch Ancestral Pueblo.

The open-air kiva at Wupatki, this one is a bit different, women can still bug you here, AD 1131-1300. Northern Sinagua.

A little kiva in Balcony House. During the time of the cliff dwellings Great Kivas and other integrative Chaco stuff went away and you got lots of smaller clan kivas, AD 1250-1300. Mesa Verde Branch Ancestral Pueblo.

A clan kiva at Elden Pueblo. AD 1070-1275. Northern Sinagua.

A big rectangular Hopi-style kiva at Homolovi II. AD 1325-1390. Ancestral Hopi.

A circular kiva in the plaza at Atsinna on the top of El Morro rock. AD 1275-1350. Ancestral Zuni.

A square kiva built into the Atsinna roomblock. AD 1275-1350. Ancestral Zuni again.

A Basketmaker III pithouse. Not really a kiva, but ancestral to them. AD 650-700. Durango Basketmakers.

Also, kivas can have some sweet murals.

This one came from the Knobby Knee site near Dolores. It's from AD 1193-1213 and is Northern San Juan Branch Ancestral Pueblo.

This came from a kiva in Lowry Pueblo. A bit older at AD 1060-1170, it's McElmo Phase Chaco Branch Ancestral Pueblo.
Last there is a really nice one.

This :krad: mural came from a kiva at Hopi village of Awatovi. It's from AD 1300-1500, so it predates the Spanish presence at the village and the destruction of it in a war between Traditional Hopi and Spanish suck-ups. It's on display at the Museum of Northern Arizona in Flagstaff.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
Gotta say OP, Southwest looks pretty lovely.

Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal

Blacktoll posted:

Gotta say OP, Southwest looks pretty lovely.







Nah, we good.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


FartingBedpost posted:

I-40 takes you through Amarillo. It's the worst highway. The only part of it that's good before Flagstaff is Tijeras Canyon.

Flagstaff to LA is pretty though.

I like the stretch of the 40 from the AZ/NM border to Gallup. The rock formations there are pretty. The entire Leupp to that point stretch can eat poo poo.

Applecross WC.
Sep 13, 2004
Reverence and Disregard
Looks like a horrid place. Why would anyone even live there?

wane tendo
Mar 19, 2005

Buglord

lotta good memories of gettin' my hog swallowed here

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012


I've only been been to the southwest once as a kid but for some reason I really like the landscape

Southwest is ok by me.

ChrisHansen
Oct 28, 2014

Suck my damn balls.
Lipstick Apathy
They're a good budget airline

raton
Jul 28, 2003

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Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
i read a book in college about that spanish(?) explorer who got lost in the southwest for like 20 years and it blew my mind

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