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ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog



So back in 2011 Relic Entertainment and the now-defunct THQ released Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II - Retribution, a stand-alone expansion to 2009's Dawn of War II. Featuring a wonderful (if short) co-op-enabled campaign, hilariously-unbalanced multiplayer, and an unending stream of buggy gameplay, Retribution was an enjoyable take on the old RTS formula.

So why am I talking about a 5 year old game?

Well, in addition to singleplayer and the competitive multiplayer modes, Retribution also had The Last Stand, a 3-player survival mode where you controlled a single powerful hero and tried your damnedest to make it through 20 waves of various units from the game's six factions. Compounding this is the addition of a simple leveling system, giving your hero of choice access to shiny loot and alternate playstyles. The strange blend of Gauntlet-style arcade gameplay with Dota-ish controls made the mode popular enough that Relic released DLC for it and eventually created a standalone version of the game mode on Steam. Now fast-forward to 2016, five years (and a publisher switch) later we get this:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jUX28SBnQ

DLC character out of freakin' nowhere along with some patches for a half-decade-old game. The Necron Overlord brings in a lot of neat toys for his loadout, allowing him to fulfill a super-tanky support/crowd control role with a ton of lime-flavored particle effects spreading death everywhere. The update has boosted the playercount, and for the moment it's actually easy to find a game during peak hours.



Aaand on top of that, a mod for the game finally made a public release as of yesterday:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3A8R2QxQ2A

Some mod author posted:

Last Stand: Forgotten Emerald
Mod, currently in development. Revamps last stand, to bring much needed versatility and flavour to different classes.

OFFICIAL GROUP: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ForgottenEmerald
RELEASE TRAILER:
YouTube™ Video: Dawn of war II Forgotten Emerald : Release Trailer and space marine showcase.
Views: 67
Dawn Of war II: forgotten emerald Is a mod for the last stand mode in relic's game Dawn of war II retribution. It features reworked heroes and re-balanced waves.


CURRENT MOD VERSION: 0.397

Update0: The mod now has a launcher. It is included in the latest download.

Update1: OBT Release is today!
The link to download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-OptEZmnSQLVWVONlNDOGpBZWs/view?usp=sharing
The Open Beta has the following features:

-Space Marine Captain: Total rebalance, complete.
-Imperial Guard: Total conversion, complete.
-Chaos Sorcerer: Now known as Chaos Champion. Total conversion, complete.
-Wave rebalance: Rebalanced waves 1-10. 10-20 To Be Done.
-Faction Passives: Enemies have passives. More details somewhere down in the thread.
-Bug fixes
-Overlord balance tweaks and exploits fixed (two, so far)


What is not present yet:

-Eldar rework
-Tyranid tweaks (no major rework)
-Tau rework (only tweaks have made it into OBT)


UPDATE2: after a year-long pause, i decided to release a OBT of what i have done so far.

What it includes:
Space marine: Largely complete. Some observable balance issues but largely fine.
Imperial guard: Complete. Balance is about right.
Chaos marine: Complete. Minor balance tweaks possible.

BONUS: Bloodied Colliseum - updated waves! wave 1-10 is no longer boring!
Waves 10-20 are not changed.

What it does not include:
Changes to Ork, Eldar and Tau

What has been done:
There is a different approach to the kit and levelling.
Higher levels unlock more specialized kit. Base level unlocks are usually more forgiving - does not make them less effective, as they are mostly all-rounders.

Known bugs:
Since most items are newly added (i.e. Chaos, where its pretty much an entirely different character), your kit can bug out when you go from mod- to no mod.
Effect: All the modded gear displays as a weird pic that says "IMG". When you try to unequip, it crashes your game.
Solution: Get past the initial loadout screen by simply having the "IMG" gear equipped.
After you're in the "search" screen, press Edit Loadout and remove the gear.
To save the changes, get into a match.

Here are some old screenshots:
https://pp.vk.me/c624820/v624820850/2664b/QKi7ECsKZrA.jpg
https://pp.vk.me/c624023/v624023850/2e10f/QUQ-ph5a1oM.jpg

Some short gameplay clips:
https://gfycat.com/EqualRecentAztecant
https://gfycat.com/EdibleSplendidHamadryas

In short, the mod remixes the first 10 waves of the Colosseum map, and adds a ton of new gear/gameplay changes to the Space Marine Captain, Lord General, and the Chaos Sorceror (whose now just a straight-up Champion). Suddenly, a bunch of dead-weight characters and gear are suddenly really fun to play with!



Put on some techmarine armor and poo poo turrets all over the map!





Engineering not your style? Fly around with a giant hammer (that isn't garbage) and go bowling for guardsmen!





The Lord General gets a makeover (totally not his head pasted to a Commissar body), a ton of weapons, and a snazzy hat!





Oh and your guardsmen are accessories now, which can lead to the arena becoming a touch crowded:





As for Chaos? You can become a legit Noise Marine. Kill enemies with the power of metal. Nuff said.





Well, I GUESS you be a Nurgle-based shitlord and poop goo puddles all over the map and deliberately root teammates to the ground leading to their untimely deaths NO I AM NOT MAD





...Or you can all be lazy rear end in a top hat space marines and hole up inside a building with heavy weapons until the entire facade collapses in on you because you had no plans for what to do about a human wave of warp spiders:




Best of all, the mod is relatively stable, works with the game's default matchmaking, and there's even a decent pubbie population. That said, goons are typically waay better at being awful in videogames, so if anyone wants to dive back into some TLS madness feel free to hit up my Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ChickenHeart/

Bonus old Dawn of War Goons Steam Group that's been dead since 2012: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dawngoons

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504
Feb 2, 2016

by R. Guyovich
I have these games and just never played them. They are still sitting right here on my shelf in there case.

Should I play them then do this new thing? Or just plow ahead? Also, Windows 10 gonna do the job for the original game?

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
The new update's really got me playing again, mostly with my brother. We've been doing the campaigns, Last Stand, and I even convinced him to play against people. I've also reinstalled the competitive Elite mod, and hopefully I can get a few games out of that as well because I really dig its changes and additions.

As for Last Stand itself, the Necron dude is so hilariously broken. I currently have him built with both the item that gives back all life and energy when he first hits zero, and if he dies again he'll resurrect in a few seconds. Unfortunately this has made the last wave in the "easier" map literally unwinnable, at least with the matchups I've gotten. :v:

Anyway, that LS mod looks really cool, and I hope it gains traction with the community. Especially if they end up making new maps for the mode.

504 posted:

I have these games and just never played them. They are still sitting right here on my shelf in there case.

Should I play them then do this new thing? Or just plow ahead? Also, Windows 10 gonna do the job for the original game?

They should all work fine and as for whether you should play them, it depends what you're looking for. The DOW2 and Chaos Rising campaigns are better regarded that Retribution's, but you can only play as the Space Marines in them. But if you're only interested in Last Stand and/or PVP then just install the latest game.

Mordja fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Mar 28, 2016

Crewmine
Apr 26, 2012
Pretty amazing to put out an update like this out of nowhere. I used to really enjoy 2v2 and 1v1 in this for some reason, playing as the ork commando was always a good laugh despite all the imbalances. Definitely going to give Last Stand a whirl again, it was a great way to kill half an hour back when it first came out.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
So do the heroes in that Last Stand mod have their own levels or does it take from the regular game?

Mordja fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Apr 1, 2016

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