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Not having tactile controls in the cabin is the stupidest loving decision ever up there with putting a force-sensing non-moving flight stick in the F-16 But engineers are spergs that don't understand how humans work, which is why human factors psychology exists
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i've driven a tesla.... with thousands of volts 
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Apr 2, 2016 21:49
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Pretty sure the Tesla S has done well in the UK. It's a big four-door GT (contradiction in terms, but we live in the age of the CLS, A7 etc), so the weight doesn't really hurt it when compared to the hulking, charmless sacks of poo poo produced by MB and VAG. In the UK market it stacks up very well price wise. A brand new RWD Tesla S "70D" is £47k, which sounds pretty good compared to the supercharged 3l V6 Jag XF, which is £50k with no options, plus presumably top-rate annual emissions taxation and ~30mpg in the real world. The 70D is only 3/10th of a second slower to 60. Haven't driven one but I've been to one of their shops where they have a rolling chassis plus a couple of the actual cars, and they're nicely put together.
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Apr 2, 2016 21:51
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Justin Tyme posted:Not having tactile controls in the cabin is the stupidest loving decision ever up there with putting a force-sensing non-moving flight stick in the F-16 Ive used one of those force sensing joysticks and they aren't that bad Ive also used the tesla touch interface and it really is that bad. As in legit dangerous
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Apr 2, 2016 22:57
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Saga posted:Pretty sure the Tesla S has done well in the UK. they should in a country size of roughly three american back yards. EVs are brilliant in that environment. No amount of money thrown at tesla or any EV will get you even halfway across the US in a reasonably nonstop manner, whereas the jag would eat it up and beg for more.
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Apr 2, 2016 23:09
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Jonny 290 posted:they should in a country size of roughly three american back yards. EVs are brilliant in that environment. No amount of money thrown at tesla or any EV will get you even halfway across the US in a reasonably nonstop manner, whereas the jag would eat it up and beg for more. Also the interior amd build quality is much, much better on the jag. What a world where you can actually say the above sentence with a straight face
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Apr 2, 2016 23:10
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Mange Mite posted:Ive used one of those force sensing joysticks and they aren't that bad I mean the tech behind them is cool but imagine if to steer your car instead of rotating the wheel you applied a torque to a non-moving steering wheel. It's bizarre and doesn't really make the pilot/driver any more effective vs the tradeoff of not having a sense of force scale. ...poo poo, that's genius, someone contact Tesla and tell them to add a force-sensing steering wheel.
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Apr 2, 2016 23:45
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lol check this out https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/does-any-else-regret-buying-a-model-x.65646/ they're delivering hand assembled prototypes of the 110k model x that have horrible flaws and fixing them as they go. gonna be hilarious when they try that with a 35k car that isn't a secondary toy for true believer rich fucks
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ive been in a tesla a few times and once in one with autopilot and while the tech is cool the cars by themselves seem kind of ice cold and void of any personality and really dont do anything for me as someone who likes cars. autopilot, at least in new england, only works on the highways, otherwise on backroads without proper markings it constantly routes u into trees and people and then beeps at u to tell u that ur about to collide with them
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Apr 3, 2016 00:08
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So when we getting regular-rear end electric cars? Without the retarded giant ipad and automatic parking and poo poo.
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wayne curr posted:So when we getting regular-rear end electric cars? Without the retarded giant ipad and automatic parking and poo poo. When they don't need big heavy rear end batteries? 
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wayne curr posted:So when we getting regular-rear end electric cars? Without the retarded giant ipad and automatic parking and poo poo. never. according to elon musk and gm, conventional speedometers and common vehicle standards like "climate control vents" are fundamentally incompatible with electric cars and any EV with an actual speedometer bursts into green flame immediately
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Apr 3, 2016 04:34
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wayne curr posted:So when we getting regular-rear end electric cars? Without the retarded giant ipad and automatic parking and poo poo. actual carmakers sell them and have for a while. the nissan leaf, the kia soul ev, electric focus, bmw i cars, etc. soon there will be the new chevy bolt, and i think hyundai has one too
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Mange Mite posted:Also the interior amd build quality is much, much better on the jag. A big congrats to the US government for indirectly helping to create a non-poo poo product.
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etalian posted:A big congrats to the US government for indirectly helping to create a non-poo poo product. ford got like the least bailout money though. though yeah they lost a lot of money bringing jaguar to the 20th century instead of being a joke like the rest of the british auto industry
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Apr 3, 2016 04:40
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I know a few people that have pre-ordered them which is weird. Pre-ordering a car? A car that won't be available for like 20 months? Don't pre-order videogames, don't pre-order cars.
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a bag of dicks posted:lol check this out loll a friend of mine was an early adopter model s buyer, and that thing was horrible at launch too. the giant touch screen that controls important parts of the car would freeze or crash, and the pop-out door handles stopped working and had to be serviced like 2-3 times. also at one point the headliner started falling off. edit: also the paint was a joke. the finish looked like a drat football OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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Propaganda Hour posted:I know a few people that have pre-ordered them which is weird. Pre-ordering a car? A car that won't be available for like 20 months? Tech industry weirdos just like waiting in lines for things. Mange Mite posted:loll Yeah early adopting is usually pretty bad for this reason. Usually takes a few years to polish the manufacturing and supplier side of things.
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etalian posted:Yeah early adopting is usually pretty bad for this reason. Usually takes a few years to polish the manufacturing and supplier side of things. my second gen tesla didnt give me any problems (beyond taking forever to fix) but several years in the interior, fit+finish, and paint are still crap. not even compared to other $100k cars but like compared to the rental hyundai i got
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Mange Mite posted:loll Speaking of freezing, the popout handles are a neat idea I guess, but I can only imagine how aggravating they are if you live in an area where temperatures get to the point that your door can freeze shut
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literally a fish posted:so basically you stop every 300 miles for an hour, big woop, you were probably doing that anyway for lunch and poo poo That's probably exactly what they think, too. I wonder if they've ever actually travelled more than that one road trip in college? I know the Flying J is a place I like to be for any longer than I actually have to be!
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My Q-Face posted:That's probably exactly what they think, too. I wonder if they've ever actually travelled more than that one road trip in college? I know the Flying J is a place I like to be for any longer than I actually have to be! Yeah some of those supercharger stations are not in great areas, or are in areas wheee everything nearbby closes early and so at night you have to sit for an hour in your car which kind of sucks
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Apr 3, 2016 05:03
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vehicles of all kinds are lame we should just learn to fly and teleport and stuff
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Apr 3, 2016 05:11
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Mange Mite posted:my second gen tesla didnt give me any problems (beyond taking forever to fix) but several years in the interior, fit+finish, and paint are still crap. not even compared to other $100k cars but like compared to the rental hyundai i got I never found the Tesla interior trim to be attractive, you can tell it's appealing to startup types with all the touch screen and big ipad like interface for everything.
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Tesla owners, what's getting one of these serviced / repaired like? I imagine you've gotta go through Tesla?
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rock rock posted:Tesla owners, what's getting one of these serviced / repaired like? I imagine you've gotta go through Tesla? What would you even need to do? There's a poo poo lot less moving parts in the engine and all the chassis drive train poo poo is probably serviceable anywhere. I am going to wait until the future to get an electric car. When the mr fusion toilet comes out. So you can poo poo and piss for fuel. And that's somehow torque. ClamdestineBoyster fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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Apr 3, 2016 05:49
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How much for the option that shocks my dick and balls whenever I give it some throttle or roll the windows down?
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It's freaky being behind one of them. No exhaust, only noise coming from it is the tyres. Left me for dead as soon as we got to a straight. 
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Mange Mite posted:actual carmakers sell them and have for a while. the nissan leaf, the kia soul ev, electric focus, bmw i cars, etc. soon there will be the new chevy bolt, and i think hyundai has one too yep. theres a Fiat EV that can be had for under $200 a month in some states with applicable tax breaks - another EV that prob a step up that also doesnt look like a joke is the VW e-Golf. so if u want an electric car the only thing holding u back now is ur fear of owning an electric car
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What's the cleanup with these when say, you get T boned by an 18 wheeler? Are they full of acidic gel that becomes a huge toxic spill?
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tardwrangler posted:What's the cleanup with these when say, you get T boned by an 18 wheeler? They burst into flames if the underside is punctured in any way.
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I've got a Tesla and the autopilot hates me and tries to murder me on the reg because I am so massively fail that even the circuit boards of a car can sense it.
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I don't think electric cars are near the practicality of conventional cars but they're headed that way. Look at Tesla, they started with a very niche sports car, went to a much more useful luxury sedan, and are now going for a somewhat upscale but far more "normal" car. Every time EVs are in the news people go "BUT THIS ISN'T PRACTICAL THIS IS STUPID I AM VERY INSIGHTFUL". Well, yeah, everyone knows they're not there yet.Justin Tyme posted:Not having tactile controls in the cabin is the stupidest loving decision ever up there with putting a force-sensing non-moving flight stick in the F-16
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tardwrangler posted:What's the cleanup with these when say, you get T boned by an 18 wheeler? not exactly, theres just certain instructions responders must follow in order to not get fried...but the batterys are really hard to put out if on fire and even when out will keep reigniting itself for hours and hours which is a prob when having to deal with the burnt out husk of a Tesla afterwards
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wayne curr posted:So when we getting regular-rear end electric cars? Without the retarded giant ipad and automatic parking and poo poo. later this year Jonny 290 posted:never. according to elon musk and gm, conventional speedometers and common vehicle standards like "climate control vents" are fundamentally incompatible with electric cars and any EV with an actual speedometer bursts into green flame immediately (interior shot at 2:00 or so) http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/01/test-driving-the-new-the-chevrolet-volt-at-ces/ pre-production already started, will be going on sale later this year http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/03/chevrolet-bolts-are-about-to-start-rolling-off-the-production-line/
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Mariana Horchata posted:yep. theres a Fiat EV that can be had for under $200 a month in some states with applicable tax breaks - another EV that prob a step up that also doesnt look like a joke is the VW e-Golf. so if u want an electric car the only thing holding u back now is ur fear of owning an electric car and rav4 ev from toyota that's basically their half hearted attempt of saying they dont really need an EV due to their overall better mileage lineup, thus priced at a hilarious ~60k besides those two and the fiat/vw mentioned earlier, seems like all the other manufacturers want distinguish their EV from regular cars by souping it up even though most of them share the same chassis eg. nissian leaf is basically a nissan versa here's basically a list with all the hybrid-with-a-big-battery (green sticker) / full electric vehicles(white sticker) http://driveclean.ca.gov/pev/Costs/Vehicles.php oh yeah also pretty much all of the pure-battery cars will give you the fun, go-cart like acceleration due to the the engine, GM even went overboard with that and gave their tiny chevy spark 320+lb.ft @ 0 mph with some crazy gear ratio
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My boss has a model s, it looks pretty sweet. I want the porsche mission e, plenty of time to save for it
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I cant afford that I'm extremely poor I live day to day not knowing what the future holds. I can barely feed my pet alligators
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Zzulu posted:I cant afford that Seems like a problem that's going to solve itself
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rock rock posted:Tesla owners, what's getting one of these serviced / repaired like? I imagine you've gotta go through Tesla? It's a huge pain as they have no real dealer network. Just finding an approved shop was hard (only one in the area), and the shop was some tiny independent operation that took forever (nearly a month) just to do bodywork and paint. In the meantime i was driving a rental hyundai (which ironically had better build quality) OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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