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One of my best friends growing up is the child of Spanish immigrants. It was always cringey when people would try to correct her (or me) to say "Hispanic", instead of "Spanish". No, you dumb gently caress, there is a place called Spain, and her parents are from there. No, her skin is not brown. Yes, she is a native speaker of Spanish. Likewise, my brother-in-law is Mexican, as in, he is from Mexico. More than a few people have pulled the Michael Scott thing of acting as if "Mexican" is a slur.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 16:43 |
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Tubesock posted:she should have used the standardized test. how else are you supposed to check privilege across the states. being gay hurts your privilege score 600% more than being poor does and you aren't "rich" unless you make more than a million a year lol wow an identity politics retard that doesn't think class is much of a problem, what a surprise
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 16:43 |
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TheWeepingHorse posted:One of my best friends growing up is the child of Spanish immigrants. It was always cringey when people would try to correct her (or me) to say "Hispanic", instead of "Spanish". No, you dumb gently caress, there is a place called Spain, and her parents are from there. No, her skin is not brown. Yes, she is a native speaker of Spanish. Wait, do people think that Spanish people are majority black?
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 16:47 |
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opus111 posted:Wait, do people think that Spanish people are majority black?
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 16:56 |
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If you assume someone is Mexican you're racist and if you assume someone's Spanish you're ignorant, basically.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 16:57 |
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I would like to know more about how being a scientist pulls down your privilege quotient more than being unemployed.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 16:58 |
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In ultra-white Polish-Italian rural-suburbia in the US, nobody has firsthand experience of anything else. They probably assumed that Spanish-speakers are generally brown, therefore Spanish people must also be generally brown. The idea that Spaniards are just as European as Poles and Italians never really entered into it. Likewise, these same people were dimly aware that most Spanish-speakers do not self-identify as being Spanish - however, they never really figured out that that was because Spain is just one of many places where people speak Spanish. This idea somehow got distorted into the idea that, like, I dunno, "Spanish" was an outmoded term or identity, like being Prussian. I dunno. On the one hand, I can see why people wouldn't want kids to automatically assume that all Spanish-speakers are Spanish, but at the same time, it's stupid to butt in to "correct" them, especially when it turns out that they're right and you're wrong. It wasn't a huge thing, but it happened regularly enough.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 17:07 |
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TheWeepingHorse posted:In ultra-white Polish-Italian rural-suburbia in the US, nobody has firsthand experience of anything else. They probably assumed that Spanish-speakers are generally brown, therefore Spanish people must also be generally brown. The idea that Spaniards are just as European as Poles and Italians never really entered into it. Likewise, these same people were dimly aware that most Spanish-speakers do not self-identify as being Spanish - however, they never really figured out that that was because Spain is just one of many places where people speak Spanish. This idea somehow got distorted into the idea that, like, I dunno, "Spanish" was an outmoded term or identity, like being Prussian. I dunno. On the one hand, I can see why people wouldn't want kids to automatically assume that all Spanish-speakers are Spanish, but at the same time, it's stupid to butt in to "correct" them, especially when it turns out that they're right and you're wrong.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 17:10 |
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I'm really trying to min/max my privilege. So far I'm a intersex black Middle Eastern gay retarded blind trans scientist, but can I be both homeless AND institutionalized to bump my point just a bit more?
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 17:10 |
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Tubesock posted:she should have used the standardized test. how else are you supposed to check privilege across the states. I like that being blind is like three times worse than being deaf, disfigured and retarded. (It's nice to know there are people out there who are three times worse off than me.)
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 17:10 |
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QUEEN CAUCUS posted:I'm really trying to min/max my privilege. So far I'm a intersex black Middle Eastern gay retarded blind trans scientist, but can I be both homeless AND institutionalized to bump my point just a bit more? There's a prestige class for that but it needs 5 ranks in Hobo first.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 17:32 |
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Sheep-Goats posted:I'm the girl in intro Spanish with pink hair trying to start a discussion about why we have to assign gender to words. I live in Argentina and some people started doing exactly that. It pisses me off to no end when they write words like los/las as 'lxs'. Like there are other options other than o or a. Les/lis/lus doesn't exist you fucks
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 17:34 |
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hseroK divaD posted:I live in Argentina and some people started doing exactly that.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 17:39 |
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Hey, OP. If you meet that teacher, tell her it's super lovely she didn't include Native Americans and grouped Islam and Sikhism into one block for some reason. She should also have Other in there for most of the questions. Maybe she was too privileged to consider this, I don't know.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 17:54 |
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Paladinus posted:grouped Islam and Sikhism into one block for some reason.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 17:57 |
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Protip: tan to lose privilege.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:00 |
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City of Tampa posted:being gay hurts your privilege score 600% more than being poor does I'm the 750k gap between "affluent" and "rich".
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:11 |
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Paladinus posted:Protip: tan to lose privilege. Tanning is cultural appropriation of melanin levels!
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:15 |
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That's OUR molecule and you have no right to use it
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:20 |
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13% of the population is consuming 93% of the melanin. hosed up.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:20 |
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City of Tampa posted:lol wow an identity politics retard that doesn't think class is much of a problem, what a surprise
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:33 |
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This test is a 4chan joke. How can you not get it? It's funny and all, but you have to be really gullible not to get that it's a joke.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:42 |
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how ashamed should i be that i have 2 functioning arms and 2 functioning legs
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:44 |
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Paladinus posted:This test is a 4chan joke. How can you not get it? It's funny and all, but you have to be really gullible not to get that it's a joke. Putting that much effort into looking like a retard doesn't come off rear end a joke so much as the make the person look like a retard.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:46 |
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:Putting that much effort into looking like a retard doesn't come off rear end a joke so much as the make the person look like a retard. As I said, it's a 4chan joke.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:48 |
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Paladinus posted:As I said, it's a 4chan joke. I've never read 4chan since I'm not a dweeb so I don't know what that means.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 18:50 |
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Paladinus posted:As I said, it's a 4chan joke.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 19:03 |
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Yeah, oh man, some 4channer spent 30 minutes to type some dumb words in MS paint to make fun of ess jay double-ews. There must be some deeper social implications here, let's discuss it at length how many points they should have actually put for certain answers.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 19:08 |
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Oh Hell No posted:Also these types of people never take into account that Hispanic is an ethnic/cultural identity and not a race in itself. I know a lot of blond-haired blue-eyed Cubans and Venezuelans, and a lot of Haitians and Dominicans who look no different from your average black American, and the two groups arguably get different treatment from police and such. And that's not even getting into the Filipino-American experience. I'm a white red headed Spanish-Mexican and it's really funny how literally every middle class white gut I've met doesn't understand how I can be a white guy named Sanchez
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 19:10 |
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It's usually the ones who are trying soooooo hard to be anti racist or whatever too
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 19:11 |
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"this is my meso-american friend larry"
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 19:12 |
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(not to imply ownership or anything. i dont own him, owning people is wrong)
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 19:13 |
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Plays fantasy football. A game where you own black people and have them fight with eachother.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 19:14 |
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Larry Parrish posted:I'm a white red headed Spanish-Mexican and it's really funny how literally every middle class white gut I've met doesn't understand how I can be a white guy named Sanchez Every Mexican I know has a white dude first name. Eric, Thomas, Zeke, Jason, Brian, Ruben, Alex, etc.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 19:47 |
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That privilege worksheet might be a lame troll, but there are many sincere attempts to mathematify privilege: http://www.autostraddle.com/rebel-girls-mapping-power-privilege-and-oppression-254794/ It's the kind of thing where I sincerely, unironically believe that everybody would be better off if they understood the concept of what it means to have privilege, BUT, it's loving stupid to reify the concept or to assume that, say, "white" is even a uniform category to begin with or to confuse group effects with individual situations or to mistake the map for the territory, etc. etc. etc.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 19:51 |
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QUEEN CAUCUS posted:I'm really trying to min/max my privilege. So far I'm a intersex black Middle Eastern gay retarded blind trans scientist, but can I be both homeless AND institutionalized to bump my point just a bit more? no, but you can definitely con a loving sweet pair of pants off of well-meaning LF posters
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 19:54 |
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Larry Parrish posted:I'm a white red headed Spanish-Mexican and it's really funny how literally every middle class white gut I've met doesn't understand how I can be a white guy named Sanchez it's because you're culturally appropriating their names like the two massively built hawaiian brothers i went to school with named masashiro and koji
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 20:00 |
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This racial group that covers like 4 continents natively and 2 from colonial empires is definitely all privileged as a whole
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 20:12 |
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TheWeepingHorse posted:That privilege worksheet might be a lame troll, but there are many sincere attempts to mathematify privilege: Is it really a troll if it's blatantly obvious on it? But goons still trying to quantify different factors of it lol
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 20:14 |
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Remember when these people tried to say Polish people were never oppressed because of their white privileges, and that they didn't have a culture of their own because they were white? But they are the non-racist, so it's okay to say things like that.
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