Desumaytah posted:

The scene where Biollante shows up for the final fight in its film with the gold space dust and localized earthquake and the insane vines leading into that horrifying pissed off mother nature roar and that incredible wide shot where Godzilla is just utterly dwarfed in comparison to this thing is basically the most awesome pro-wrestling PPV main event entrance for a kaiju movie ever, just a notch above Iris descending from the clouds and making thunder as it touches down from the end of the third Heisei Gamera movie. gently caress that poo poo rules. Gets me hype every time.

Final form Destoroyah's WWE Kane entrance is cool too.

Godzilla showing up flanked by the US armed forces in KotM is also some Wrestlemania quality poo poo.

Final fight introductions are some of my favorite scenes in these movies. There's just something so mythic about them when they're done well. Anyone else have any favorites? I feel like binging.

Gripweed posted:

Still annoys me that in his titular film Gigan had to share his introduction screen.

Xguard86 posted:

He's called king for a reason.

Gigan is a chump and never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

drrockso20 posted:

I still love Final Wars but the older I get the less and less I like specifically it's version of Godzilla, with how quickly and effortlessly it chumps most of the other monsters in the movie being a huge part of that as it doesn't really elevate Godzilla as a monster it just makes everyone else look worse

HannibalBarca posted:

as opposed to ghidorah, who's never won a single fight across the entire franchise

Sodomy Hussein posted:

I think in comparison to American Godzilla movies, and most Godzilla movies that don't really resonate with me, it has reasons to watch the movie besides waiting for Godzilla to do something, since if you're not into that there's also this dumb Japanese Matrix ripoff with Don Frye. It's certainly nothing remarkable but it's one of my favorite dumb movies.

Timby posted:

MY KING pretty thoroughly owns Godzilla in King of the Monsters

Sobatchja Morda posted:

So, yesterday I decided to read the script of the cancelled 1994 Godzilla. This was supposed to be Tristar bringing Godzilla to the West. Jan de Bont (Twister, Speed) was ready to direct and there are some cool monster designs out there for it. Toho was on board, everything seemed to go smooth, and then the studio pulled the plug because they thought the film would be too expensive. They gave the project to Roland Emmerich, who ended up spending even more money and tossed everything out the window to replace it with his own ideas.

It's a shame, because the script is really cool. It strikes a nice balance between classic Godzilla (alien monsters, massive fights) and nineties disaster flicks. They came up with a strong original monster (the Gryphon, a freakshow combination between a mountain lion and a bat with snakes for tongues), cool set pieces (human characters dangling from a helicopter to blow up a restraining device that holds Godzilla back while hell breaks out around them, a small desert town being tormented by seemingly biblical plagues before its wiped of the map by a giant monster) and manage to strike a nice balance between Godzilla as a hero and a terrifying presence, by making him a dinosaur who is tasked with protecting the world from aliens who is too large to notice humans at all.

There's a few parts that aged terribly, like the joke about a pilot eying up a fifteen year old girl and Godzilla causing 9/11, but what mostly struck me is how much of this script got used in the MonsterVerse films. The ancient civilization, Godzilla crashing the Golden Gate Bridge, the scientist mother who is almost consumed by revenge, her calmer, rebellious daughter and a final fight where Godzilla decapitates his opponent by blasting them in the mouth are all iconic elements from the newer films that are present here.

It also confuses me why Emmerich decided to trash the entire script, because it has all the themes that he loves to work with. Ancient aliens, a slow moving apocalypse, natural disasters and secret military bases and shadowy government operatives are supposed to be his bread and butter, way more than "lizard lays eggs in New York City".

HannibalBarca posted:

as opposed to ghidorah, who's never won a single fight across the entire franchise

Desumaytah posted:

Showa Ghidorah beat Zone Fighter, once. Gigan's one victory is soloing Jet Jaguar offscreen in vs Megalon, and while I love Jet Jaguar as much as the next guy, Zone Fighter he is not.

He might have actually won in Monster Zero, too. He's the only monster who came out of the sea at the end, which is exactly how Toho showed us that Kong had beaten Godzilla after their big fight a few movies prior. I imagine Ghidorah just chose to gently caress off from Earth after the Xians all blew up because, I mean, the dude had certainly had a day.

And he beat Rainbow Mothra in the third Heisei Mothra film.

Other than that, yeah. I think It's just Rodan and Mothra in KotM. I guess he won a fight with Biollante in a comic at one point? Maybe he kicked some rear end in that one show with all the action figures.

Cercueil posted:

Have Hedorah smoking a bong instead of a smokestack.

hatty posted:

GATOS Y VATOS posted:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BRQ2emdj538/?utm_medium=copy_link

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‘’’With the studio’s blessing, Emmerich and Devlin began developing their take on what an American Godzilla should be. Once that was decided on, the duo would make their pitch to Toho. “We had been warned by Jan De Bont that if you want to make the slightest change to Godzilla, you meet enormous resistance [from Toho],” Devlin said. “That’s been part of the problem with getting any of these films done. And Roland and I didn’t want to do slight changes, we wanted a complete overhaul.”19 But the producer was confident they would win Toho over, stating, “So whatever direction we go we’re going to have to get approval from them. But we are very optimistic they’re going to like the direction we’re going.”20


Emmerich believed that the design for the Toho Godzilla “didn’t make sense”.
“The Japanese want to have it looking exactly like Godzilla because they own the trademark,” Roland Emmerich explained.21 But the director wasn’t interested in that, saying, “The original, how Godzilla looked, didn’t make sense to me.”’’’

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With Emmerich’s introduction out of the way, Tatopoulos unveiled his Godzilla artwork and maquette. It was met with a gasp from the Toho execs, followed by stone silence. “After designing my last Godzilla, the one that wound up in the movie, I felt very secure and I believed we had something great. But the day I sat in front of the Japanese I thought, ‘what have I done? Am I crazy? They’re not going to go for it’,” Tatopoulos worried.

“They were speechless,” Emmerich recalled. “They stared at it, and there was silence for a couple minutes, and then they said, ‘Could you come back tomorrow?’ I thought for sure we didn’t have the movie then.”

“It was so different we realized we couldn’t make small adjustments,” Shogo Tomiyama disclosed. “That left the major question of whether to approve it or not.” That night, Tomiyama visited Godzilla co-creator Tomoyuki Tanaka, whose failing health had prevented him from attending the meeting, to bring him up to speed. Tomiyama wasn’t allowed to remove any design art or photos from the studio premises, and found himself at a loss when describing the Tatopoulos Godzilla to Tanaka. “I told him, ‘It’s similar to Carl Lewis, with long legs, and it runs fast’

MrMojok posted:

e: I feel like I ask this about once a year, but is there any news about Toho rereleasing Vs Biollante? I just did my every-few-month check on Amazon, and if you want it on BluRay there are still just three vendors to purchase from and the lowest is $189 plus shipping.

If you settle for DVD it’s $50

Jetto Jagga posted:

Lmao Devlin and Emmerich also claimed that the Japanese filmmakers were just too stupid to figure out stop motion animation like Willis O'Brien which is why they "had" to use a man in a suit for the original Godzilla. Racist morons.

Shiroc posted:

Bizarrely, my Japanese 'complete set' (up to KotM) of Godzilla posters included one for that movie.

Shiroc posted:

I know the US had the blue Godzilla one but did the Ghidorah one get used outside of Japan?

Schwarzwald posted:

I was gonna say, it pretty much is the "Aliens but on Earth" movie that gets hypothesized every so often.

drrockso20 posted:

The most recent one did some work to better connect them all but yeah there's definitely room for improvement

mandatory lesbian posted:

I know this is beyond hypocritical in this thread but i kinda hate how every new big budget movie feels like its trying to make a big shared universe instead of just making a movie