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I am loving ON BOARD for a fascist propaganda Godzilla movie. You couldn't sell me harder on the movie if you tried.
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:I could do with a recommendation. I watched a whole bunch of Godzilla films I rented on VHS from my local library as a kid, but all the memories of them have blurred into one enjoyable mess and I don't really remember which ones I specifically saw anymore (besides Mothra vs. Godzilla, which was my favourite.) Godzilla vs. Hedorah (the Smog Monster)
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Jul 20, 2016 13:40
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gfanikf posted:Eh Hedorah is weirdly a mix of goofy and pure loving nightmare fuel. There is a lot of terrifying imagery in that movie. Yeah it owns
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Jul 20, 2016 15:19
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Wizchine posted:Who the gently caress watches Godzilla movies for anything other than Godzilla and the other monsters? All the other poo poo is filler because the budget couldn't handle 90 minutes of painstakingly-built miniatures getting destroyed by men wrestling in latex. This is real dumb.
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Jul 31, 2016 01:49
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Wizchine posted:I watch movies about monsters fighting, but they're highbrow, you see, because they have plots and characters and everything... This is real dumb.
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Jul 31, 2016 01:54
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Crash74 posted:new godzilla looking p good SMB really did have awesome production design.
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Aug 3, 2016 21:39
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RBX posted:Imagine a modern hedorah design 
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Aug 11, 2016 06:07
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The eyes are awesome. When they're jamming hoses into his mouth and it looks like they're performing dentistry on a crocodile tweaking on PCP are some amazing shots.
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Oct 16, 2016 21:43
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A lot of the shots in this movie look wonderful because they're framed in deliberate ways, which would be ruined with more dynamic camera movement. Especially the ones of meetings between bureaucrats. I swear, JJ Abrams is ruining the taste of an entire generation of movie watchers.
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Oct 17, 2016 00:42
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Nothing wrong with using resonant religious imagery for no reason, especially if you have a good artistic sensibility. Jodorowsky made an entire career out of doing this.
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Oct 17, 2016 00:46
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Invoking Ozu makes more sense here. Never seen one of his films. Where should I start?
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Oct 17, 2016 00:54
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Schwarzwald posted:There's a time and a place for both, and which Shin Godzilla seems to understand. There are a lot of really cool shots with cameras mounted on rotating tank turrets, which creates a unique effect when the vehicle starts moving in a different direction. Speaking of static shots though, the final one on the balcony with frozen Godzilla way off in the background next to the protagonist is aces. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 00:58
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Another excellent use of a static shot: when the Prime Minister's telling everyone there's no chance of Godzilla coming on land, and then the aide runs in from off-frame to whisper in his ear. The framing completely makes the joke.
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Oct 17, 2016 01:04
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Well, the prime minister is incinerated essentially as punishment for being concerned about collateral damage (literally, for not making to order to blow away an old man carrying his disabled wife) and for allowing foreign powers to infringe on Japan's sovereignty. That's quite some subtext, and I understand how people might view the film as having right-wing ideology.
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Oct 17, 2016 03:41
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What the film is really about is Japan reprocessing its national trauma from having brought tremendous ruin upon themselves during WWII. Godzilla is an avatar of that unresolved shame from historical transgressions; however, this shameful past is contextualized only in terms of how the Japanese suffered and were failed by their government. He's not the spirit of Nanjing or Pearl Harbor come to seek revenge for unacknowledged crimes. There's absolutely a nationalist bent to the movie in that sense. The bureaucracy's obsession with formality and legality is demonstrative of an unhealthy fear of self-determination borne from the hubris of 1941, and is is rectified by an honest reckoning with the past that necessarily destroys the entire current power structure. The protagonist thinks it's ambition and self-interest that guides his predecessors' actions, but he's wrong; he's just too young to remember why they're afraid of wielding power with confidence. "Bring me people with balls", he says. An interesting read is that Anno is basically saying that post-WWII Japan is like the Weimar Republic, and Godzilla represents an ascendant fascist backlash. When Godzilla first appears, the masses rally outside of government buildings, chanting his name loudly enough they can hear it inside even as they scramble to manage the crisis at hand. Creating a sense of self-worth through industrial innovation, affirming sovereignty, and devotion to collectivism is enough to keep the beast at bay -- temporarily. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 04:07
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K. Waste posted:The movie ends with the two love interests sarcastically conspiring to create a globalist, neoliberal equivalent of the Clinton dynasty. There are definitely fascist undertones to Shin Gojira, but these are juxtaposed with a "monument" made of immolated citizens. It's no Pacific Rim, that's for sure. They aren't just "immolated citizens" or casualties of war -- they've become twisted, nightmarish things, bursting forth among a host of fanged maws. Atonement means being devoured. If the sins of the past were to truly catch up to us, that reckoning would destroy the world. The only option is to try and keep it frozen in the past -- but it isn't going away, we can only try and outpace it. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 04:38
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Choco1980 posted:Actually, that's not at all what they were. They were Godzilla. There is that bit where the clump of Shin drops to the ground followed by the researchers reacting with amazement that it must be how it reproduces, and that it can "evolve" smaller forms. Also, their heads and hands are still very monstrous. I'm sure you can come up with an interesting new theory about Godzilla's "new form" looking humanoid. I wasn't talking about a diegetic explanation for why his tail looks like that.
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Oct 17, 2016 16:56
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Eco Fucker is def one of my least favorite kaiju
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Mar 26, 2017 15:34
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She's also got like ten lines in the entire film.
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May 5, 2017 13:50
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Lord Krangdar posted:I hope the sequel starts with Godzilla still in the middle of the city a decade later, but now inexplicably crucified. Everyone on earth has mutated into tiny godzillas and Godzilla has turned into a giant, frozen naked man.
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Aug 3, 2017 06:06
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If you want to stick to official canon, the explanation for Godzilla's tail is that it means whatever you want it to mean and you have to decide for yourself by watching the movie
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Aug 7, 2017 22:42
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Schwarzwald posted:Ghidorah wrecking the world is only act 1. But it's Anguirius and Baragon and they lose badly
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Aug 12, 2017 05:56
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Terror of Mechagodzilla (1975) owns owns owns. It's the last Godzilla movie with Ishiro Honda at the helm. Also make sure you watch Rodan (1956) and Mothra (1961) even though they're technically not Godzilla movies. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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Aug 20, 2017 07:03
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Burkion posted:It cannot be stated enough, if you're a fan of Shin and the original, check out Return of Godzilla. I have a huge soft spot for Godzilla '84, but it's definitely a flawed film. Though there's something about Godzilla and 80's Japanese skyscraper architecture that just works really well aesthetically. And I love how the whole film feels like it takes place at midnight.
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Aug 20, 2017 07:18
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Waffleman_ posted:The movie's artbook has details of what the fifth through eighth forms of Godzilla would be and they're chilling af. Actually, in his 5th form his eyes get bigger and he becomes a protagonist. In his 6th form he's starting to look kind of ratty and you can see his zipper.
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Sep 7, 2017 03:43
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lol why would JVR watch a stupid cinemasins video, is he a masochist or something
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Sep 9, 2017 00:07
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PriorMarcus posted:JVR is part of a new generation of Directors who will build on brand on stuff like that. He's ability to reach out to fans and his transparency will make his career. In that way he's very much at the ahead of older but still fresh directors like Edwards, Trank and Trevorrow. Imagine is Snyder had this level of communication with fans and the critical world. He's brand might not be poison. You can't say Snyder's brand is poison when he's captured the hearts of the critical CineD demo.
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Sep 9, 2017 08:48
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Inescapable Duck posted:I think kaiju movies tend to prove that the natives of any country love seeing their national monuments and cities spectacularly destroyed. 9/11 was the greatest day of my life
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Sep 19, 2017 18:44
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Fun fact: James Hong worked on the American dub of the original Godzilla in 1955.
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Sep 28, 2017 08:05
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Does Kong gently caress?
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Oct 24, 2017 19:07
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Remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E284IfUyssc it owned
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Nov 17, 2017 07:18
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SimonCat posted:It's fun watching how many actors were in both the original Gojira as well as the Seven Samurai. Ishiro Honda was Kurosawa's assistant director on a bunch of movies so that's pretty close.
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Nov 18, 2017 02:02
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Waffleman_ posted:By the third movie, Godzilla will BE the Planet of the Monsters. Please don't fat-shame Godzilla.
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Nov 20, 2017 06:36
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Tezcatlipoca posted:You say this after explaining away the meaning of words. Mothra absolutely means big moth because shes a giant loving moth. It can be a character name too and your false dichotomy is really dumb. I agree with him though, that they are inspired names. For instance, Giant Robo is a cool-rear end name, even though it's obviously just "Giant Robot" with the T cut off. "Monster X" is a very different name than "The Mystery Monster" in terms of dramatic effect, even though they communicate the same information.
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Nov 30, 2017 03:43
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Kaijus having proper names also emphasizes the fact that they're singular entities -- it lines up with the idea that they are closer to gods than animals.
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Nov 30, 2017 03:50
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Waffleman_ posted:But is King Ghidorah actually a king? Inasmuch as King Kong is a king.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:14
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K. Waste posted:Except it's not, because go does not mean "gorilla," and jira does not mean "whale." It would be cool of Mothra's mom was named Big Mothra though.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:23
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Inescapable Duck posted:You have surpassed even the Mothra. You have earned the title of 'Big Mothra'. !
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Nov 30, 2017 06:07
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Gojira is explicitly the name of a (fictional) minor kami specific to Odo Island. The Shinto ceremony shown in the film is fairly legit - it features offerings of food and sake to Gojira, and a satokagura performed by dancers in tengu masks to chase away the 'impurities' thought to have provoked the attack. In other words, Magma Turtle's real name is Bowser
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sponges posted:What is the worst Godzilla movie? Megalon probably, it's barely even a film.
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