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K. Waste posted:Just so it's not only shameless self-promotion, Mothra is loving good go watch Mothra. Just a note that Rifftrax Live will be having a live theater cast of their Mothra show in late August, and even though they'll be doing their usual talking over the film it's a rare chance to see it on a big screen, as God intended.
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Spoiler-free review — does not sound terribly promising, if you ask me. Oh, and the review may be spoiler-free but the comments definitely are not.
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Jul 29, 2016 22:17
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Human stuff in Godzilla movies is fine, endless over-the-shoulders in featureless bureaucratic chambers not so much. Will wait to see the thing for myself before forming opinions, though I am not enamoured of the piss-colored aesthetic seen in the trailers.
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Jul 30, 2016 19:53
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I find the human story of Monster Zero just as entertaining as the monster bits, if not more so. And vs. the Sea Monster is a terrific ensemble action comedy that just happens to co-star Godzilla.
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Jul 31, 2016 10:23
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I had a feeling the Showa-style Godzilla roar in the trailers did not really fit the visuals, and, well, here you go (spoilers obvs): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjM8qvSjkVM
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Aug 2, 2016 06:51
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I may regret asking this, but what was bad about the AoT movies? Have never seen them, the anime, or the manga.
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Aug 4, 2016 02:35
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Huh. Well, I'd think it would be hard to completely screw up a movie about freaky flesh-eating giants vs. spiderman ninjas but poo poo does happen.
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Aug 5, 2016 00:04
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That is one weak-rear end trailer, but I doubt there was ever much chance that Joe Average was going to see this film anyway. On the upside, I just learned that it's going to be playing at my usual Rifftrax place and I am SO IN.
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Sep 10, 2016 05:45
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Greatest Godzilla sequence is the first ten minutes of 2002. Also, please dig trailer of same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cotXakan9ng Uncle Boogeyman posted:I just really hate the look of Godzilla in that one compared to the other Heisei movies Don't feel bad about this, he looks loving terrible somehow. What really blew my mind was finding out that BioGoji was largely the same suit from the shoulders down, and once you see it you can't ever unsee it. Bimmi fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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Sep 15, 2016 22:44
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Just so happened that while I was summering in Tokyo in 1994 one of the local retail hellmouths held an official Godzilla retrospective thing, and among other delights as one walked through this space there was the actual, goddamn near 20-foot-tall Cybot used in G84,. It was working great and, to say the very goddamn least, impressive.
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Sep 15, 2016 23:17
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couple years old but drat, I would live in that room.
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Sep 16, 2016 00:04
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I can't recall offhand any attempts to clean up quote unquote "bad" old special effects which were not horribly ill-advised, so it's just as well that Toho is one of the least likely studios to do something like that anyway.
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Sep 18, 2016 02:10
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I'm kind of sad now that we didn't get fuzzydoodle Mothra tearing through Tokyo, but having seen it on the big screen not too long ago the shots with the big larva prop hold up amazingly well.
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Sep 18, 2016 23:23
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Maxwell Lord posted:The first three Heisei films in particular all take their time getting started. Godzilla appears about 35 minutes into 1984, there's a similar delay in Biollante despite the opening recap, and in King Ghidorah he's visible in the opening title shot, then doesn't show up for over an hour (not counting the Godzillasaur.) I had a lot of issues with Edwardszilla, but I couldn't help but wonder if the people bitching about Godzilla hardly being in it have ever actually SEEN one of these movies.
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Sep 24, 2016 08:42
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Robotnik Nudes posted:What REALLY gets people is what a deliberate tease Edwards is about it the whole time. He's clearly trying to get you amped then drop you back down again so when that climax really hits it likes like wham Well, that aspect was so clearly and clumsily manipulative I just had to roll my eyes and coast with it. And maybe the film caters less directly to the cheap-thrills crowd than the Tohos do, but Subtle it ain't. Edwards wants to be Spielberg SO badly it hurts.
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Sep 24, 2016 23:09
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Godzilla's agency was closeted until the end of the movie. Edwards literally closes the door on Godzilla's rage. I'm still not sure how neutering Godzilla is supposed to be a good thing, but damned if they didn't spend almost the entire movie doing it.
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Sep 25, 2016 07:54
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Rough Lobster posted:Neutering Godzilla? His very landfall brings tsunamis and floods islands.. When he swims, he brushes aside the largest warships in the world as if they are rubber duckies in a child's bathtub. My point. The real G would' a sunk those bitches.
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Sep 25, 2016 16:17
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It's a boring and neutral interpretation of the character. But this probably isn't the thread for going into the many reasons I disliked 2014.
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Sep 25, 2016 16:21
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I'll let you suss that out for yourself, I'm done talking about it.
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Sep 25, 2016 16:35
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No, it's because your attitude suggests an impending dumb slapfight over a giant lizard movie and that is not going to happen.
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Sep 25, 2016 16:53
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Improbable Lobster posted:Instead you're just gonna passive-aggressively bitch about how no one agrees with you Nope. e: and I'll just say that the "Raids Again" suit has recently become one of my favorites, for reasons which should be obvious: 
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Sep 25, 2016 17:29
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I definitely wanted to be the guy in the suit, being too young and dumb to realize what a horrorshow that job actually is.
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mandatory lesbian posted:godzilla: the teen years Yup! Or alternately, if Alfred E. Neuman was a giant mutated dinosaur thing. It's too bad, because the costume almost works: it looks okay from certain angles, and if you squint there's an even more demonic, unsettling countenance there than the '54 had. But whether it was the drive to slim it down, time constraints, or just a general lingering lack of expertise, it doesn't quite cut the mustard. Still, I don't think it's the ugliest suit in the series by a long shot. e: there were actually two of these suits. One was made after the fact and shipped overseas to the studio doing the American localization that became "Gigantis the Fire Monster." Don't know offhand whether that suit was actually used or even if photographs exist (the guy who was supposed to wear it claims it was made to fit someone about two-thirds his size.) Bimmi fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Sep 25, 2016 |
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Sep 25, 2016 18:45
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Cool. Was fairly sure that was a real story and not just something that came to me in a drug-fueled haze, but it's nice to have confirmation.
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Sep 26, 2016 03:41
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Some of those are in better shape than one might expect, assuming most of them were probably 20+ years old at the time.
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Sep 26, 2016 04:43
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david_a posted:What's the winged lion? Latitude Zero, which I would really like to see someday. quote:And is it actually possible to preserve these suits? I thought the latex breaks down over time. Depends on the exact materials used: a lot of the newer suits seem to be in relatively worse shape than the older ones.
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Sep 26, 2016 14:11
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Glad to have Godzilla back to being a political beast. I always liked him best in that capacity.
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Sep 29, 2016 08:39
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well why not posted:I'm really surprised to find out that Zilla (American version from 98) has quite a following. News to me, though there's a decent monster movie in there buried under all the idiotic crapola.
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Oct 5, 2016 07:14
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It needed a heavy script pass or three and less terrible casting, but you could do that while keeping the same basic characters and story beats, call it "The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms," and it might have been perfectly acceptable. As it sits it is one of the most aggressively stupid movies I've ever paid money to see, never mind the question of whether it's a real Godzilla movie or not.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:08
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In any other movie he'd be the worst character, but that's G98 for you.
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What's weird to me is that ID4, for its many flaws, seemed to display a genuine affection for cheesy alien-invasion movies which made it all the more fun to watch. Meanwhile, Emmerich is on record as making GBS threads all over the established character of Godzilla and quite clearly felt the whole undertaking was beneath him, so we got a film that oozes contempt and sour vibes from every pore. Which has always made me wonder, if he doesn't even like Godzilla why'd he do a loving Godzilla movie?Happy Noodle Boy posted:For as lovely as the movie was the first trailer with Godzilla stomping on the T-Rex was awesome. Funny enough as a throwaway trailer gag, but the pointed dig at Jurassic Park is very much in keeping with the weird, mean-spirited tone of the film itself. Has there EVER been a worse, more self-indulgent running joke in a big-budget movie than that Siskel/Ebert business? Bimmi fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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Dylazodelan posted:Has anyone else read the script that was written for the planned 1994 American Godzilla movie that never went through? It was a lot more "traditional" than the 1998 version, with a mostly bipedal Godzilla fighting another giant monster. Stan Winston was signed on to do its effects, and he even made a pretty cool looking Godzilla model. I did. Reminded me of 2014 in lots of ways, inasmuch as the characters were pretty forgettable and some of the details felt weirdly off (Godzilla is discovered sleeping in a cave in Nevada or somesuch.) The enemy monster also felt like some scrub-tier Ultraman poo poo, or something out of a Harryhausen movie. And the Godzilla design was just another one of those T-Rex-with-spikes-on jobbers that bad designers keep churning out to make him more "realistic" or something. I don't feel like it was an opportunity missed, even if what we got was awful.
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Edwardzilla would've looked so much better if they hadn't let his arms just hang loose like that maquette is doing: I couldn't help but see someone's drunk, fat uncle stumbling from the couch to his bed in almost every shot where he wasn't actively loving something up and even a few where he was. The ready-to-grapple stance is such an integral part of Godzilla's visual language that it just felt wrong to me that they totally missed it.
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Oct 6, 2016 15:34
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Yeah, I hosed up by making it sound like I was badmouthing Harryhausen. He's great but his monsters generally don't have that classic kaiju eiga feel to 'em and I submit that this doesn't either: Ultraman I will not defend. Loved that poo poo as a kid, but try to tell me with a straight face that all those Ultra monsters aren't silly as hell.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:04
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Tezcatlipoca posted:You could have at least posted the model of the actual creature. Maybe you could oblige me since I've never seen one?
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Oct 6, 2016 17:10
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I'm not saying it ain't art, but one of my greatest disappointments of the last few years was buying the Complete Ultraman on DVD, watching the first episode, and realizing the magic wasn't ever coming back.
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So it's this guy then: He's okay I guess. Still kinda generic. Doesn't really read as a gigantic city-crusher to me but we'll never know how it would have turned out. One thing I do like about 2014 is the MUTOs. I thought they captured the whole Godzilla feel better than Godzilla himself did, just a really neat and fitting concept with some scary as hell biology to boot, and they were way cool to see in action. Only reservation I have about 'em is that they are basically Gyaos, which makes it even more apparent that G14 is just a lightly disguised remake of Gamera - Guardian of the Universe. Bimmi fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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To be honest, Godzilla's big ol' clown feet are one of his most awkward design elements — the Hesiei G, which I generally love, tends to look real goofy when he walks — so I do get why they might have gone a little too far in the other direction for 14. I don't, like, love G14 or anything, but they did a good job making him seem like a live, tangible, fleshy creature, so that alone was kind of cool to see.
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Oct 8, 2016 08:28
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Thrilled to see the old boy get back to his roots as a fell beast of the Apocalypse.
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I think this was as close to my personal platonic ideal of a Godzilla movie as I'm ever going to get. Not perfect by any means, but definitely a high point for the genre. And I'm still thoroughly creeped out a day later, which is just cool as heck. Monster movies SHOULD be disturbing, dammit.
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