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BattleTech posted:You're kidding yourself if you think G98 is even close to being the worst one when this exists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uICJrR7HRE Others have already brought up the reasons why Revenge is not the worst- it's even hard to rate it as a Godzilla film all things considered, but not in the same respects as G'98- but it does stand to be repeated. Revenge is nowhere near the worst. The worst is either Megalon, which is only redeemed through just how campy it is and the car salesman that is Jet Jaguar, or Space Godzilla. Space Godzilla has an interesting idea of the evil twin, and has a penguin robot that is the out of loving nowhere revival of one of the golden age Toho films that never got lumped in with the others, but is otherwise a total write off. Made all the worse is the fact that it was the 40th anniversary movie. The effects were cheap, the Godzilla suit was literally falling apart and torn to shreds, and the fight scene that lasts a good third of the movie is boring and slow as poo poo. A complete wash of a movie.
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Real talk Godzilla 1985 is almost redeemed by that final monologue. It's a loving good piece of acting. (For those interested in my opinion, Return of Godzilla is likely one of the best made Godzilla films of all, with the only competition being the original and Shin. At least of the Japanese ones. I adore that movie so much, it just falls short of the original by dent of being a sequel.) Also, on a similar vein- regardless of what one thinks of King of the Monsters, and I genuinely enjoy and cherish it as its own unique thing that should get the due respect it deserves... Even if you hate the movie and think it a bastardization of a superior film, which you would be wrong about, it has one line of dialogue in it that is unarguably superior to that of the original scene. "You have your fears, which may become reality. And you have Godzilla- Which IS reality."
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Detective No. 27 posted:I thought it was a special feature on the new bluray release? Did you miss that? https://www.amazon.com/Return-Godzilla-Blu-ray-Hashimoto-Koji/dp/B01FZ8I7R4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1477191882&sr=8-1&keywords=Godzilla+1984 That isn't Godzilla 1985. That is the Toho dub, without any of the additions that was made. I am unclear if the dub is the same and they cut around it, but I suspect they are different.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Ohh, I just assumed it was the Raymond Burr cut the same way Criterion put in King of the Monsters as a bonus on their Gojira release. I had hoped that as well, but that version of the movie is in a quagmire that might never clear. It's objectively worse, without any of the benefits or quality that you can give King of the Monsters, but it is still an interesting thing to have and I do love the final speech.
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Oct 23, 2016 04:14
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I really like that it looks closer to the original Kong. That's encouraging
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Nov 11, 2016 21:01
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I really hope they don't blow their load on Ghidorah too soon- dude is a big enough threat that he could be what brings Kong and Godzilla together
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Nov 11, 2016 22:09
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It helps SO much that he's not really realistic looking. He's a giant goddamn ape he doesn't have to be realistic.
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Nov 17, 2016 21:18
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One day I need to watch 76 again. I've seen Kong Lives waaaaay more. I'm pretty happy with how they're doing Kong so far because it seems to be striking a balance you really need for the character. Because let's be honest here, the original '33 film is... at its core it is an extremely racist movie. Which is something that it just cannot avoid. Typically Kong in media either swings one way, AKA going full speed ahead into the inherent racism, or the other way, AKA Kong fights giant robot dinosaurs. There isn't much middle ground. Kong Lives swings way to the side of the robot dinosaurs for how little it has to do with the story and just how freaking silly the whole thing is. King Kong VS Godzilla nearly had a balance like this if it wasn't for the literal black face and the way the 'natives' are presented. Thaaaat movie was racist on its own terms!
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Nov 18, 2016 18:08
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I mean they've got some of the imagery and the decade right. Just that's a very tight rope to walk.
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Nov 19, 2016 05:40
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Vintersorg posted:I'm the worst G-Fan as I've never seen Space Godzilla! no you're the best one don't sully your mind
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Nov 29, 2016 04:04
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MST3K version of the latter unironically. Hedorah is a great movie, it's just also The 70s and might be made of LSD. Track down Return of Godzilla and watch it the gently caress now. If you like Shin and 54, Return is great
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Quick and dirty Everything in GMK is rigid and cheap. Baragon has the best suit. GMK Godzilla's suit itself is just poorly made and unnatural looking. It tried to do a lot but the hips and the neck do not work well. It's a real honest shame too, but it's unavoidable with how Toho operated with those films. AKA pump them out year after year no matter what gently caress giving production time to buff out the rough spots. The story suffered because of that as well. GMK could have been THE big defining movie of the 2000s, but instead it just gave us some good designs
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Spatulater bro! posted:I watched Shin before Return and I was surprised at how similar the two movies are. It's WEIRD. The most fundamental difference between the two, I think, is entirely when they were made, and the fact that Shin is a stand alone film, while Return is a Sequel, capital S
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Popelmon posted:I'm in the same boat. Are any of the billion other Godzilla movies as serious as the 54? Really liked that one. Return of Godzilla is the closest you're going to get. Specifically that one, not Godzilla 1985. Well that and Godzilla King of the Monsters. If you've never seen King of the Monsters, give it a watch too- it's not AS good as the original, but it's a good monster movie all its own and has a very interesting perspective on the original film. It also has a line that's better than what was in the original in the same scene. Otherwise a good one is Godzilla VS Mothra 1964 for serious Godzilla films.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:who the hell complains about Godzilla being unrealistic You would be loving shocked
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I hope Geedorah just looked at Doom with contempt and barely did anything to truly capture the experience of Gigan
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Dec 9, 2016 16:33
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You people grabbed those quick
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VolticSurge posted:And,in the grand Godzilla tradition,will be Godawful as gently caress. Name one good Godzilla dub. That's the thing-one doesn't exist. Godzilla VS MechaGodzilla 1974 has a beautiful dub and I will hear nothing to the contrary. Russian Monkey Alien Men gently caress yeah
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Dec 24, 2016 21:47
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The only good love stories in a Godzilla movie have been the original and Terror, and both of those were tragedies for different reasons. Having just a generic 'these two fall in love' story would be pretty bad.
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Jan 5, 2017 06:42
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He's a tiny little guy that's why In the movie he's not even 50 meters
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Jan 11, 2017 05:01
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Nah, he'd be way too small to be seen. He'd fit in the palm of one of their hands. Also Jr is a near bright green and has the same not quite fully grown spines.
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Jan 11, 2017 05:11
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He is actually. Waaaay smaller. The only times we see the two near each other, there's some funky camera angles at work because of the scale issue. Biggest Junior got was 40 meters, compared to 54's 50 and Burning Godzilla's 100.
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CelticPredator posted:I just watched Godzilla Vs. Mothra. I kinda liked it, I guess. But I have to ask, does it help to enjoy these movies more if you're nostalgic of them? I feel like something was missing. Track down Return of Godzilla. Gojira, Return and Shin make a trilogy of sorts of very similar style movies
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CelticPredator posted:Cloverfield is the scariest monster film for me because it does add the double layer of the tiny monsters coming after you. Those on their own? Eh. But those paired with the giant monster, showing that there really is no escape from it? To me that's drat horrifying. I think you're going to like Return of Godzilla quite a bit. Not gonna say why since you don't seem to know
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Jan 12, 2017 06:31
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Clearly the best dub is the 1974 MechaGodzilla one. "MechaGodzilla, beat Godzilla to death!" Also Russian Monkey Japanese Man. gently caress yes.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:the real question is will they dub the parts already in english? If they're smart I haven't seen Shin, but knowing English scenes in Toho movies like I do, it was likely pretty bad.
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ThingOne posted:
Ah but if you did your research *loud snorting* you will see that Godzilla has a history of surviving black holes and blowing up planetoids.
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:"Well, if you read the Ships and Vehicles of Star Wars coloring book you'll see that a Star Destroyer can vaporize a planet's crust in 30 minutes."
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Not a huge shock, but there is a post credits scene after Skull Island that teases Rodan, Mothra, and King Ghidorah, including a cave painting that shows ancient Godzilla battling KG. Pretty sure That's just regular old Godzilla. Dude's been alive for goddamn ever. Super stoked to have Ghidorah be brought up already though did not expect that yet.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Yep, my apologies, had it in my head that this was an all purpose Godzilla thread. Nah it's cool, I THINK this pretty well is an all purpose one. I was more addressing petty nerd pedantic poo poo as is my want
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It's cute you think Toho gets English speakers for their in house English dubs
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I worry about that movie. I don't have the best track record with the writer and they've been hiding Godzilla's design pretty hard. Hopefully it'll be good please be good
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Psycho-Pass S1 is terrific, we just have to hope we get that (or at least Madoka-) Urobuchi and not, like, anything else Urobuchi. Even with Madoka Urobuchi, we run the risk of Movie Madoka Urobuchi and no one wants that.
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I SWEAR that's a shot of Shin Goji, but the dorsal fins make me second guess it
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Isn't the new Eva movie now named 3.0+1.0 instead of 4.0? It's not kingdom Hearts until fractions are involved
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I'm also a bit worried about the single female character they've shown us, since she seems very.... Anime Waifu-y bullshit. You know, for some one that signed up on a mission to take on a planet of goddamn monsters. Like, and this is something I don't really think about too much, but the Godzilla franchise has had a weirdly strong cast of women in its history. All the way to the beginning with Emiko. Miki was basically the protagonist of the Heisei era. Every era you look at, nearly every film, there's a notable or competent woman somewhere in the film. Mind you I'm basing this knee jerk reaction entirely off of how they have her look compared to everyone else, and who is writing the script. Hopefully that won't be an issue.
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HannibalBarca posted:I'm not sure that that was necessarily a good thing, She was Better than not Space Godzilla aside
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Mar 26, 2017 04:32
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Real talk Space Godzilla is the worst Godzilla movie right? Like the actual worst one. No qualifiers no exceptions
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I will go to bat for Godzilla's Revenge as actually having interesting things to talk about. Namely the latch key culture of 1960s Japan and the eroding morality of youth. You could read into Revenge a million different ways and have a ball. Space Godzilla is just a pile of nothing. The best thing about it is the Space Godzilla suit, followed closely by that poster. Battle for Earth at least has Battra going for it, and the battles are at least fun even if the entire rest of the movie is a eco fucker nightmare.
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There are four little people there. Maybe we'll get quintuplets
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There was antoher bit of art with that thing in relation to a human- it's way too small to be a an attempt at Rodan. This is just some rando nameless monster that the humans can actually fight.
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