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my thinking is that the mizuumi wiki has that note because satsuki does have good normals yeah and also her default 236 grab kinda sucks but most new players assume its a keypart of her kit when she mostly uses her anti-air grab and her bite
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I don't think bite is even particularly outstanding as far as a command throw goes. The things that really stand out about Satsuki are 623C, the fastest sweep in the game, and a really good IAD j.C. Also an extremely strong oki mixup without relying on a move that just keeps the opponent locked down, which I feel like is sort of a key feature of grapplers?
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Blockhouse posted:I predict the last two characters will be the dude who replaces nero in the remake and satsuki RIP shadow beast dude. I played you like twice at an anime convention but you were truly the coolest Melty Blood 
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Endorph posted:Kouma and Satsuki were the two grapplers in the original, yeah. Though Kouma is more of a rushdown character that has command throws than a 100% grappler the way satsuki is. Nope, in fact there’s even a deluxe edition and it doesn’t include any future dlc characters. French Bread might just be old-manning it and doing whole-new-release updates.
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Brought To You By posted:RIP shadow beast dude. I played you like twice at an anime convention but you were truly the coolest Melty Blood beautiful
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Brought To You By posted:RIP shadow beast dude. I played you like twice at an anime convention but you were truly the coolest Melty Blood 
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This little back and forth has put into context why I clicked so fast with Satsuki despite really not being a pure blooded grapple wizard. Me like big buttons and also being a shithead. But that’s cool about Kouma! I was honestly more worried about not getting one at all than not getting the one I want.
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Satsuki and Kouma are the closest to actual grapplers, Melty does not have a Zangief, Tager, Pot, etc. If you're a grappler you're like half of one.
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UNIST does have a fairly traditional grappler so its possible one of the new characters will be one if itd make some amount of sense for the character. Then again, Satsuki being a grappler was basically made from nothing. She barely fights in the original VN, all thats really noted about her is that she's got a relatively high level of physical strength for a newly made vampire - which I guess is why they went with a clumsy gorilla style for her?
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Ultima66 posted:I don't think bite is even particularly outstanding as far as a command throw goes. The things that really stand out about Satsuki are 623C, the fastest sweep in the game, and a really good IAD j.C. Also an extremely strong oki mixup without relying on a move that just keeps the opponent locked down, which I feel like is sort of a key feature of grapplers? Ground bite's invincible at super flash, you can do it decently far away, and it's only like 3 frame startup so it's pretty good especially if you tick throw it. Air bite isn't as good though it's got more startup so it takes longer to getting to be invincible, it's p much just a read move you use when you catch your opponent jumping in the corner.
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Captain Baal posted:Satsuki and Kouma are the closest to actual grapplers, Melty does not have a Zangief, Tager, Pot, etc. If you're a grappler you're like half of one. Half a grappler grapplers are the best kind of grappling a grappler can possibly grap, as far as I’m concerned. Zangief / Tager / Potemkin types can get… not played by me, I guess.
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i like those kinds of characters because calling something a semigrappler is fun
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Captain Baal posted:Ground bite's invincible at super flash, you can do it decently far away, and it's only like 3 frame startup so it's pretty good especially if you tick throw it. Air bite isn't as good though it's got more startup so it takes longer to getting to be invincible, it's p much just a read move you use when you catch your opponent jumping in the corner. While we're on the topic some other things that really stand out to me about Satsuki's kit relative to other characters though: her best grounded overhead is a charged move which can be released at any time. Combined with a loving 4f sweep with massive range, it gets hard to block mixups between 5[C] and half charge 5C 2C. She has a somewhat real anti air for really close range opponents (obviously 623C is the real anti air) with 22A when a lot of the cast doesn't have great anti airs. Kouma also has a great anti air with 2B so it's something they share. Despite not being fully invincible reversals both 22C and 214C are actually really solid DPs for a grappler in that they trade in your favor almost always. She is also one of the few characters with practical AAD setups that actually pays off in damage for doing the AAD. Also her j.C is just imo the best feeling button in fighting games. IAD j.C just has such a perfect arc and hitbox for approaching, air backdash j.C enables the 4 way mixup and can also gently caress up a lot of offense when you do it in neutral.
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This is exactly how I played him the one time I did like 10 years ago. JUMP C, JUMP CANCEL C
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Artelier posted:This is exactly how I played him the one time I did like 10 years ago. JUMP C, JUMP CANCEL C its honestly one of th efunnest combos in fighting games
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The only B&B I could ever do 
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I liked neco chaos' more because he barfed out the shadow demon thing instead
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Does Satsuki actually have a non-metered command grab? The only thing I saw for her was a "grab" that was actually blockable and not a grab at all.
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Glagha posted:Does Satsuki actually have a non-metered command grab? The only thing I saw for her was a "grab" that was actually blockable and not a grab at all. 236B is a grab but it's very slow.
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every character i play is a grappler because im a moron who tries to throw at every available opportunity
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I just want Aoko back cause jeans and a tshirt while doing kickpunch lasers is the best poo poo make it young aoko and give her a dragon install style thing when she uses the fifth magic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ias1o4S1nOU
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The no sound thing on the Nickelodeon game makes it seem so cheap. I didn't realize how important sound design was, but even though the animations and gameplay is top notch, it sounds bad enough that I could see people not playing it because it seems like a cheap knock off.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ias1o4S1nOU You know, I thought I wouldn't mind the mini skirt. Turns out I do. I don't like it. It's weird.
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Gologle posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ias1o4S1nOU I hate it gimme back the long skirt and sweater 
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Boba Pearl posted:The no sound thing on the Nickelodeon game makes it seem so cheap. I didn't realize how important sound design was, but even though the animations and gameplay is top notch, it sounds bad enough that I could see people not playing it because it seems like a cheap knock off. At least on PC it can possibly be modded in I would hope. I'm more turned off by the $49.99 price tag lol
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Kitfox88 posted:I hate it gimme back the long skirt and sweater I’ve seen this take a few times now. I saw someone doing a breakdown of the custom character color scheme thing, and they got really hype when it seemed like Ciel was using her intro street clothes instead of her usual churchly murder mumu. If alt outfits are on the table, maybe the original long skirt is still a customization option as well?
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brainSnakes posted:I’ve seen this take a few times now. I saw someone doing a breakdown of the custom character color scheme thing, and they got really hype when it seemed like Ciel was using her intro street clothes instead of her usual churchly murder mumu. If alt outfits are on the table, maybe the original long skirt is still a customization option as well? Fingers crossed
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No way alt costumes are a thing since it would mean redrawing every frame. Chances are the color customization just lets you set a different pallet for her intro pre-transform
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for reference when noel got an alt costume in blazblue it was stated to be nearly as much work as just making a whole new character and the staff got into multiple arguments about whether or not it was worth it.
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Gologle posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ias1o4S1nOU Skirt is fine but I'm not a fan of the boots
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I can't believe they buttoned up Roa's pants.
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Arzachel posted:Skirt is fine but I'm not a fan of the boots The boots are easily the best part of the design.
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Forget Melty, here's real news! With rollback! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rz54HiG2E0
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I thought you were gonna link the Among Us fighting game that has rollback
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Some day, my small group of close friends i’ve gotten into fighters will finally believe i’m not just rick rolling them when i beg them all to install kyanta and i’ll actually get to play it for realsies.
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Tae posted:I thought you were gonna link the Among Us fighting game that has rollback I'm sorry the what https://twitter.com/GrunkleBarlowe/status/1436076783644946432 I'm sorry the what
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Chev posted:Forget Melty, here's real news! With rollback! brainSnakes posted:Some day, my small group of close friends i’ve gotten into fighters will finally believe i’m not just rick rolling them when i beg them all to install kyanta and i’ll actually get to play it for realsies. Kyanta kicks so much rear end, all about Kinoko.
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Chev posted:Forget Melty, here's real news! With rollback! Stamina Type II bitch
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