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If you want to gently caress up your team play Gohan and refuse to block and demand that all your assists cover your sloppy play. That or demand you and your opponent bow first before fighting.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:The main thing is that Fortune has very little in terms of pre-combo setup. The head's either between you and the enemy, behind the enemy, or behind you. The first is dangerous, the second safe but hard to leverage, and the third is what you want most of the time. I don't know if you know this, but there was a change so that the head can walk now, which makes a lot of setup stuff easier now that you can be precise. And I never learned a headless transition combo, and I do alright with her still. It's probably preferred but there's nothing wrong with just finding the right spot in neutral to head toss because of how good it normally is. Having the head between you and the opponent can be really good actually. It will take damage, but in getting hit it can interrupt the opponent hitting you directly, leaving the body free to punish the opponent. It's also a great asset if you are close enough to hit the head. Hitting the head turns it into a lingering hitbox that's very difficult for a bunch of characters to deal with and nets you a safer approach, and you can jump cancel your launcher (even on block I think) if you hit the head which is extremely useful in many ways. That said, I think she's more simple than other puppet characters only in that the range of the head is pretty small and that she gets benefits even without manipulating the head itself. So she's a puppet character who doesn't really need to do much puppet stuff, and that's before counting Head-On fortune stuff. Ventana fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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Yes, I know about the head change. It's handy but my point was mostly that you don't need incredibly exacting advance positioning of the head to do most (if not all) of Fortune's good headless combos anyways; even before the change you had really good options for moving it around or for bringing the enemy to the head.
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Barudak posted:If you want to gently caress up your team play Gohan and refuse to block and demand that all your assists cover your sloppy play. Goku has a special command where if your teammate is getting their rear end kicked and tries to tag you in you can refuse to help.
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Reiley posted:Goku has a special command where if your teammate is getting their rear end kicked and tries to tag you in you can refuse to help. its called parenting
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Does Chi Chi have a move where she auto tags in as soon as Gohan takes damage
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chichi has a mode where if the player is under the age of 18 they have to go to school for the day before they can use training mode
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In one of the dbz card games my deck was built around Gohan eating a hit which would cause chi chi to enter the battle with a bonus, then play "teacher" buffs until she could one shot frieza
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can't tag in goku until at least one of your characters has been killed can't power up to full strength until the other one has died as well
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goku automatically cancels any of his attacks that would land the killing blow into "I'll Give You a Second Chance!". Forcefully tags himself in to perform the same special move whenever one of his teammates would land a killing blow.
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give krillin a counter super where if he gets hit he just dies and the next person comes in powered up
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Captain Baal posted:She punches and kicks that's good enough "these games" are usually mechanically shallow and FighterZ seems to actively be avoiding that, so I wouldn't use past DB games as a precedent. Plus they've put a lot of work into showing almost every aspect of these characters in this game comes from something they've done in the anime or manga, and Videl has very, very little to draw from compared to everyone else.
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Mr. Heart in the Hokuto no Ken anime is basically just around for a cup of coffee before being killed, and Arc still managed to give him a unique and full-fledged movelist in the HnK game. I wouldn't really be worried.
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TFRazorsaw posted:"these games" are usually mechanically shallow and FighterZ seems to actively be avoiding that, so I wouldn't use past DB games as a precedent. She is literally one of the Great Saiyamen. Sorry for the spoiler.
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yeah and we barely ever see her fight as the Great Saiyawoman. But I'm not really worried so much as I think Videl's presence makes the leak rather unreliable.
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videl's an easy sell if you think the devs don't want the game to be a huge sausage fest her dad barely fights either and you know his rear end is getting in
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I want Trunks and Goten standing on top of each others shoulders in a trenchcoat as a character. Also President Dog.
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TFRazorsaw posted:yeah and we barely ever see her fight as the Great Saiyawoman. who cares just make something up shes a good character
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Does Chi Chi have a move where she auto tags in as soon as Gohan takes damage
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Barudak posted:I want Trunks and Goten standing on top of each others shoulders in a trenchcoat as a character. Their name is mighty mask and its more of a kkk outfit than a coat
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Real hurthling! posted:Their name is mighty mask and its more of a kkk outfit than a coat he looks like a side character in a Dragon Quest game
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TFRazorsaw posted:"these games" are usually mechanically shallow and FighterZ seems to actively be avoiding that, so I wouldn't use past DB games as a precedent. Why does the game being more mechanically sound suddenly stop them from adding characters who barely fight when most of these games have those? Like idk what part of you thinks that somehow stops a character from being added but Arcsys does this poo poo all of the time and they do not need movesets to pull from see: Rise, Kokonoe, Mr. Heart, and Celica. Like I don't think this leak is infallible, but your logic is not really convincing since it's a point that's been proven wrong time and time again.
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nintendo made a full character out of captain falcon
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dragon enthusiast posted:nintendo made a full character out of captain falcon A FUN FACT about that is Falcon's moveset belonged to a character in the original prototype version of what Smash 64 was going to be before they replaced generic characters with Nintendo mascots and made history. He is the prototype gear, he is the Sol Badguy of Smash.
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It owns that we're getting chars from later Dragonball Super arcs in DBFZ. I want Hit, the Pride Troopers, the furry trio, the fat magical girl, Beerus (lv5 super: Whis teleports in and punches once) Champa w/ fighting vuvuzela action....... I hope that one of the costumes for android 18 is just playable 17 with 18 as the assist char. all of this assuming the leaks are true, ofc, but it seems hella plausible Sade fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Aug 21, 2017 |
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beerus should absolutely be in the game and a final boss
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i want.... gotenks
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The training mode should be set in the hyperbolic time chamber.
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Goten and Kid Trunks, together, as one character, like a cross between Ice Climbers and an arcsys puppet character, with a transformation super into gotenks loving hire me, arcsys
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anime was right posted:beerus should absolutely be in the game and a final boss Beerus is good and I agree
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champa with vuvuzela assist
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Sade posted:Goten and Kid Trunks, together, as one character, like a cross between Ice Climbers and an arcsys puppet character, with a transformation super into gotenks i dont like this idea not because Ice Climbers or melty Maids are cool, but because making Gotenks an install means you cant realistically make a whole suite of moves for him and that dude has like 40 unique moves. hes the dante of dbz
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I don't remember the Buu saga very well, did Gotenks ever win a single fight?
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iirc he completely loving clowned on buu but the fusion ran out and they got stomped separately
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They also beat Hitler, iirc, but that is movie canon.
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He also beat a guy in a short film that was shown at shonen jump conventions and came out a few years before BoG
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anime was right posted:its possible. i mean arcsys could have seriously figured a good workaround to the issue; or maybe all of their per-frame lighting is far more automated so all they have to do is cinematics and touchups per costume The per-frame lighting is done by moving a light source around, the mesh itself has static vertex occlusion. The only extra animation work you need when making costumes the Xrd way is making the mesh swaps for unusual deformations if the costume alters them. This is not, in fact, the titanic undertaking that most people misunderstand it to be.
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Captain Baal posted:Why does the game being more mechanically sound suddenly stop them from adding characters who barely fight when most of these games have those? Like idk what part of you thinks that somehow stops a character from being added but Arcsys does this poo poo all of the time and they do not need movesets to pull from see: Rise, Kokonoe, Mr. Heart, and Celica. It just feels very different from how they're drawing from stuff for everything else in the game. Maybe Videl will be an entirely different approach, and I certainly wouldn't object if she got in. It'd make the roster a fair bit more interesting than it does now, as it still strikes me as kinda boring. But we'll see I guess. I'm just rather skeptical.
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TFRazorsaw posted:It just feels very different from how they're drawing from stuff for everything else in the game. Maybe Videl will be an entirely different approach, and I certainly wouldn't object if she got in. It'd make the roster a fair bit more interesting than it does now, as it still strikes me as kinda boring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6utr7oiGro
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