Fighting Games: the casuals are coming for your niche and you better be afraid

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Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

hey i'm several pages late but this world is too cruel and hurtful for HnK, the greatest fighting game ever made

# ¿ Apr 18, 2016 08:28

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 00:07

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

https://twitter.com/JWonggg/status/722574017396285441

# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 07:54

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

dragon enthusiast posted:

Amazon probably still has wwe brawl sticks in new/like new condition for dirt cheap, if you want a starter stick get one of those and a sanwa lever instead

it's an expensive collectors item now

# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 22:46

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

punk rebel ecks posted:

Is there a modern successor to the Melty Blood games or at least a sister series of it? I always assumed that UNIEL was that game.

It sort of is and it's good

# ¿ Apr 21, 2016 02:16

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

The daisy chain is for the ground connection, otherwise they'd need 10 extra terminals for grounding your buttons.

Other than that watch a video tutorial. I'm on mobile so I can't go find one.

Pomp fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Apr 21, 2016

# ¿ Apr 21, 2016 22:28

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

jojo's is a hard loving game that's why my entire gameplan is dashing poke buffered into red bind

# ¿ Apr 24, 2016 08:13

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Saoshyant posted:

That's two times people have mentioned that ST in fightcade is frustrating. I thought it was still the game novices were encouraged to pick up to learn the fundamentals so I imagined the population would be disparate between veterans and newcomers. Guess not?

ST damage, hitboxes and generally being a filthy game mean you get brutally murdered in 5 seconds for any hole in your fundamentals if you're playing a vet who knows all the filthy poo poo

# ¿ Apr 24, 2016 23:32

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

brian posted:

IMO 3S is the natural evolution of ST and yall too bad to get it

it turned FGs from rock paper scissor to rock paper scissor AWESOMEPARRY

pls play it and make your own decisions and stop giving up when it gets hard as it gets a lot better the better you get imo

once i got good enough at it that antiairing became a parry centered abstract concept (this takes like one day of applied effort at the game) i never touched it again because tbh "punish dude who's jumping in on you" shouldn't be something multiple yomi levels also i hate divekicks

# ¿ Apr 25, 2016 13:42

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Having tournament and stream experience is good, but the constant stream bo3 casuals is the real draw of tournaments IMO. Please do not leave once you're out of the bracket.

# ¿ Apr 27, 2016 02:08

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Brosnan posted:

I have done 0-100% unlocks at least 3-4 times on DC MvC2 thanks to VMUs being the dumbest loving idea ever.

Vmus were rad as poo poo to a kid

# ¿ Apr 27, 2016 21:48

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Sarchasm posted:

I just noticed that I have a spare lever, spare PCB, and a bunch of spare buttons, so I've decided to build a spare stick. I know I could just punch some holes in a shoebox and be good to go, but what's my best bet for buying a semi-respectable case for all this?

marvelous customs make a sturdy plexi case that i see a few locals using, and arts hobbies has a cheaper one but idk how sturdy it is.

# ¿ May 2, 2016 03:50

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

attackmole posted:

Yeah nerd poo poo romance, woo.

What are typical tournament prices? I know that's hard to characterize, but I was eyeing this Toryuken thing in Toronto as a baby's first tourney and it seems expensive to me. 65 bucks for the venue + 10 (canada money) for the tournaments is a bit steep for me to go 0-2 to. I guess maybe I'm just being a miser because I'm thinking of it as "show up, enter, play, w/e" instead of hanging around and watching the high level stuff as a social activity for two days, but ehhhhh I'm not sold.

I guess it's a part of the Capcom pro tour and the EG guys will be there so it's a higher end, but still, eh.

a major tournament is gonna run you 50 bucks + 5-15 per game, minimum. Unless you're actually good enough to stand a chance at winning you aren't actually going for the tournament though, you're going for hour after hour of offline casuals.

# ¿ May 3, 2016 05:49

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Also in my experience there's an anime suite at like every tournament where you can get drunk and play anime and snk games after hours

edit:i guess there's salty suites too but I don't play street fighter or marvel so i couldn't tell you how drunk they are

# ¿ May 3, 2016 05:50

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

what's the smallest possible button i can buy that still has quick disconnect connectors on it

edit: i feel sorry for the sacramento TO, dude loving loves anime but look at all anyone will play

Pomp fucked around with this message at 13:45 on May 4, 2016

# ¿ May 4, 2016 08:43

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

fighting games turned me into a grognard and i hate it

# ¿ May 8, 2016 08:01

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

zand isn't a thread curiosity, zand is our fate

# ¿ May 8, 2016 08:02

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

i wanna shove sf4's potato man models and mvc3s unreadable horseshit into the face of every capcom player who says 14 looks bad

# ¿ May 12, 2016 11:15

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

are you gonna tell the barely dressed big titty woman she's wrong about anything

# ¿ May 12, 2016 21:19

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Night Blade posted:

There's a mandate that all fighting games now must both look and sound like poo poo.

arcsys is the hero we really don't deserve

# ¿ May 13, 2016 00:07

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

NecroMonster posted:

Well they could, but Xrd sort of relies on having something like five or six sets of vertex co-ordinates for each model (so effectively five to six models for each model), a poo poo ton of model swaps (each model swap also needs multiple sets of vertex co-ordinates), and a custom vertex animation for basically every keyframe of animation, along with the armature animations, and oh yeah the armatures have on the order of 400-600 bones.

The only real advantage of what Arksys are doing is that it looks really really good and relies on very very very few resolution dependent resources.

An Xrd characters animations (the model(s) + the rig + the animations) take longer to complete than a blazblue character (which are done virtually the same way kof 13 sprites were done, only with much smaller character color pallets)

No company is going to do what Arksys did with Xrd, because it requires complete and total insanity.

Ono is an insane weirdo why doesn't sfv have that much love and care

# ¿ May 13, 2016 03:00

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Marvel 3 is piece of poo poo but it's the kind of massive turd that you proudly boast about to your friends

# ¿ May 13, 2016 05:53

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Broken Loose posted:

Intended effect: To artificially make matches tenser, like how MvC3 has the last 5% of the life bar hidden behind the center part of the UI.
Actual effect: Because chip damage isn't scaled, to encourage players to be more aggressive as life bars get lower.

Guts is absolutely a poo poo system and I think any form of weird abstraction hidden from the player is a loving poison on a game (see also: Hitstun decay). The only good game with Guts is MvC2.

okay

# ¿ May 14, 2016 03:42

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Broken Loose posted:

Guilty Gear which I loving hate

Luceid posted:

what the gently caress

# ¿ May 14, 2016 09:07

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

your posts are exhausting

# ¿ May 14, 2016 16:56

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Broken Loose posted:

I hate the fact that stun is accumulated in situations other than counter-hits, as all it's good for at that point is allowing way too much damage, but it's still possible to make a lovely mechanic shittier by implementing it in a bad way.

what the gently caress is this

# ¿ May 15, 2016 09:38

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

- It had virtually zero marketing
- The League of Legends-style monetization and grinding drove off new players
- Matchmaking was split into literally six or seven mutually exclusive queues + custom games, dividing the already tiny playerbase so you could never find a game
- You weren't allowed to join the main queue with two friends, you had to create a team, a team could only consist of exactly the same three players and you couldn't have more than two or three teams (I forget the exact number) without paying money to buy more

It didn't help that Riot Games did their best to strangle it in the loving crib.

# ¿ May 16, 2016 00:15

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Do you mean Funcom? Or do you mean Riot was sabotaging someone else's game because that sounds awful but hilarious, and I would like to know more.

Riot had (has?) exclusivity agreements that prevented events (e.g. dreamhack) from hosting similar games.

They also more recently attempted to ban teams with LoL teams from having teams for other mobas.

esports is loving garbage.

# ¿ May 16, 2016 00:30

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

why is the throw range so loving smaaaaaalllllllll

# ¿ May 18, 2016 21:44

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

has there ever been a good 2d fg with bad throws

# ¿ May 18, 2016 21:45

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Real hurthling! posted:

Also nearly every character has a fast running forward dash to throw out of.

excuse me, you have to do a very time consuming FD brake first!

# ¿ May 19, 2016 17:24

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

i need to play more tekken probably

# ¿ May 19, 2016 17:57

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

inthesto posted:

Henry Rollins being a playable character is strong evidence in support of this claim

are all his win quotes about the violence of capitalism and also not judging people by their surface

# ¿ May 19, 2016 20:28

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

interrodactyl posted:

What happens when woshige fights you and then you have to buy 800 copies of sf5

woshige gets promoted for doubling sales

# ¿ May 20, 2016 01:25

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Mintergalactic posted:

I bought Koihime and played it for 2 hours or so, it's a lot of fun and surprisingly easy to pick up. Is there a primer for system mechanics or character overviews or anything around?

mizuumi and failing that tweet hellabrett

# ¿ May 21, 2016 07:53