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peanut
Sep 9, 2007




angel opportunity posted:

This thread is for discussing all things about China's rich, 5,000-year agricultural history. You can talk about modern Chinese industrial agriculture, terraced farms in Jiangxi, Chinese tea industry...if it grows out of the ancient ground of China, it's fair game.

DO NOT use racial or derogatory language in this thread. DO NOT discuss stupid poo poo about mods or why certain words are good or bad. DO NOT say "no why" because it's not funny at all anymore.


This shot shows a Chinese farmer using the tools of his trade. This farmer has never 不劳而获ed a day in his life!


A Chinese farmer harvesting potatoes, or as they are known in Mandarin: "earth beans." Notice the deep squat position, China's agricultural history is so rich that even modernized city-dwellers can hold this position for hours without feeling any discomfort.


Time to have a rest...


As part of the "farm to table" process, many different people are involved--not just farmers.


Women don't just hold up half of heaven! They hold up the farm's productivity!


Even the herding dog needs to have a rest. The farmer uses a modern technique to herd cattle.


Due to China's rapid development and ever-increasing urbanization, a scene like this is commonplace. It takes a lot of farmland to feed so many people.


Farming is ingrained into China's unfathomably vast and rich cultural history. Even the modern Windows XP user in a bustling city such as Shanghai or China's Taipei can be found playing games based on farming: Happy Farm, Plants vs. Zombies...the list goes on.


Further down the farm-to-table process, you have the night market. China's farms produce so much that markets have to stay open late into the night just to have time to sell all our their surplus! Here you can buy some watermelon seeds, which are a great snack for having a rest, or you could grow your own watermelon--which also are a great snack for having a rest.


Welcome you to the Chinese Teahouse, and the Gongfu tea ceremony. This is a special method of tea preparation that shows the great value of patience and tradition within Chinese culture. You'll pay more for tea leaves harvested by large-breasted women--and that's not sexist, it's just another culture. It's not an outsider's place to judge someone else's culture! Let's just observe and enjoy.


Chinese love tobacco--unless you're a woman, then it's slutty to smoke and you will be looked down on! Here is the older post-40's generation enjoying some piped tobacco. The younger generations prefer regular cigarettes, but all of this tobacco comes from--you guessed it!--Chinese farmers!

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peanut
Sep 9, 2007




Lol nm

Trunko
Sep 17, 2011
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Gary’s Answer

Interesting and informative OP, great job!

Trunko
Sep 17, 2011
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Gary’s Answer

Wow, great job OP! It's nice to learn something for a change here in GBS!

Trunko
Sep 17, 2011
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Gary’s Answer

Another great OP, informative too! THumbs up and props OP

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

I'm sure he got the gist of what you're saying the first time around

Honky Dong Country
Feb 11, 2015

Unnnnngh


Fun Shoe

8 track betamax posted:

Interesting and informative OP, great job!


8 track betamax posted:

Wow, great job OP! It's nice to learn something for a change here in GBS!


8 track betamax posted:

Another great OP, informative too! THumbs up and props OP


Lichy posted:

I'm sure he got the gist of what you're saying the first time around

There is no why.

LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009



Nap Ghost

how come chinese tourists are so uniquely terrible?

peanut
Sep 9, 2007




My local drug store has a "LIMIT TWO" sign in Chinese for my favorite brand of diapers (for babby). Is this the new thing now that formula power is regulated?

Left: real / Right: fake

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Jerry Cotton
Nov 25, 2010



I see a lot of Chinese tourists because I live right next to the railway station, and apart from sometimes hogging the sidewalk (just like all other tourists) they seem very quiet and noticeably not very drunk (unlike all other tourists). Maybe they're defective somehow? Should I stop to ask them if they're sick?

LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009



Nap Ghost

Jerry Cotton posted:

I see a lot of Chinese tourists because I live right next to the railway station, and apart from sometimes hogging the sidewalk (just like all other tourists) they seem very quiet and noticeably not very drunk (unlike all other tourists). Maybe they're defective somehow? Should I stop to ask them if they're sick?

not being drunk while visitng finland is very disrespectful towards the local culture

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx


Let us English posted:



Is this also the thread to write about the beauty and clarity of modern Chinese literature?



ya but Dark Forest was great

the upcoming movie version of Three Body Problem though, well

Jerry Cotton
Nov 25, 2010



LordArgh posted:

not being drunk while visitng finland is very disrespectful towards the local culture

Oh so they do need medicine.

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Ok kids, let's English!

Internaut! posted:

ya but Dark Forest was great

the upcoming movie version of Three Body Problem though, well

I'm enjoying it, but holy poo poo is it stilted. I keep on wondering if the people running away from Earth before poo poo hits the find is a thinly veiled metaphor for the rich doing the same in China. I would say yes, but I've been told the author is a pretty hardcore fan of the CCP. I thought Three Body was pretty good though, but LOL at the western press for lauding it as hard sci-fi.

I teach Physics in China and am reading the trilogy to get an idea of what my students enjoy but after finishing the first book I couldn't help but rant in class about how terrible the end was. It's totally fine to have some magic plot device and not explain how it works if the alternative is some mumbo-jumbo like the Sophon.

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



Lmao

Yorkshire Pudding fucked around with this message at Apr 16, 2016 around 11:52

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

Only the smallest QB can ascend.


angel opportunity posted:

chinese tea is actually really cool. if anyone is curious i would recommend tyring some "tie guan yin", it has a very aromatic quality and smells like fresh flowers. it's not what westerners think of tea where you chug like a loving 20 oz. cup of it, you take a small mount in and the scent really hits you, and it's most enjoyable on a nice spring day when you first feel the warmth of the sun on a roof stop, for instance

Is that like oolong?
What's the deal with jasmine tea, how does it have that peculiar flavor?

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

Internet is only an instrument and there is no ruling on it.



I found this tea at a local market:





The brown pellets are the contents, it tastes like a mix of watermelon flavor and medicine and it says not to consume more than 6 times within 24 hours.

Indredients: Watermelon Frost (??), Rhizome of Lalang Grass, Honeysuckle, Dandelion, Mulberry Leaf, Chrysanthemum Flower, Cane Sugar.

Apparently "Watermelon Frost" is some kind of TCM thing and I can't find out what the hell it actually is or is supposed to be.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly


Ramrod XTreme

Mercury_Storm posted:

I found this tea at a local market:





The brown pellets are the contents, it tastes like a mix of watermelon flavor and medicine and it says not to consume more than 6 times within 24 hours.

Indredients: Watermelon Frost (??), Rhizome of Lalang Grass, Honeysuckle, Dandelion, Mulberry Leaf, Chrysanthemum Flower, Cane Sugar.

Apparently "Watermelon Frost" is some kind of TCM thing and I can't find out what the hell it actually is or is supposed to be.

It's rat droppings

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

Internet is only an instrument and there is no ruling on it.



noooooooooooooooooooooooooOoo

peanut
Sep 9, 2007




effectual posted:

Is that like oolong?
What's the deal with jasmine tea, how does it have that peculiar flavor?

Jasmine tea is dried flowers hth

peanut
Sep 9, 2007




Lmao word bot triggered

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014



Modest Mao posted:

I don't like when people use China's terribleness in any way to excuse america's shittyness (prisons, imperialism) or make weird comparisons between the two countries.

why do you keep up the lynching negroes poo poo.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

"When I see someone tilting my tables, I shoot the Bastard. That's my policy!"


LordArgh posted:

how come chinese tourists are so uniquely terrible?

You have two different versions of people who tour other countries from China.

1. ber-rich/Nouveau riche who think that their money entitles them to act however they want. Back home they never have to wait in lines, their visible wealth keeps the lesser people at a distance, and everything is for sale. When they go to the US/Canda/UK/Australia/whatever western country, they are still expecting everyone with less money than them to "back off" and let them go the the front of the line/have the whole sidewalk/do whatever they want. They're less likely to try their hand at street making GBS threads or smoking in a store, but their attitude is just toxic. These people are likely to openly be aggressive/rude to anyone in the service/retail industry, and generally ignore any rules that they don't like (walking on the grass, lining up, duty-free/luggage restrictions/etc.).

2. Middle Class who can just barely afford going overseas, and generally end up on a Chinese run tour that has been designed to cut every corner and penny instead of giving their clients a nice experience. These people understand that they are getting cheated by the tour group, so they try and "get their money's worth" by taking 10lbs of shrimp and eating 5% of it, letting the rest go to waste. They are not as used to being abroad, so these are the kind of people that will make mistakes like spitting in public, letting their kids crap in a garbage can, or trying to light a smoke inside a hotel lobby. They also have an issue with line-ups, but it's usually because they need to get everything done super fast as the tour has only allocated 15 minutes to seeing the Grand Canyon/Statue of Liberty/Smithsonian, before they are herded back to a restaurant/store that the tour group has a deal with. That's the reason why you see them tramping over endangered wetlands in Yosemite or hopping a queue at Disneyland, because they only have a limited amount of time to get the best photos/experience. Also they will not have enough money to do this again for a few years, to everything has to be done at 110% to get their money's worth.

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

effectual posted:

Is that like oolong?
What's the deal with jasmine tea, how does it have that peculiar flavor?

Tie guan yin is a type of oolong, but I feel it tastes a lot different from other types (just my non-expert ~feeling~). Tie guan yin has a really special flavor to it and kind of opened my eyes to gongfu tea, as it really made me think of a different way to drink tea rather than like a big cup of earl grey, for instance.

Do you really think the Sophon from Three Body is completely 100% physically impossible regardless of the level of technology? I'm just curious, not doubting you, as you know more about physics than me.

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless


Red Blossom tea company is pretty great if you're in the US. Tad expensive but they are pros.

Jerry Cotton
Nov 25, 2010



Yeah I guess China might have some decent teas but if it's not Lady Grey then why bother. *eats rutabaga, sips a nice cup*

Haier
Aug 10, 2007



http://teamasters.blogspot.com/

This is the best tea autist blog. He takes really nice photos while reviewing teas that 99% of his readers will never be able to afford or find. He brings his huge tea kit outside all the time and always meticulously photographs every drop of tea. I just imagine this guy hunched over with a backpack full of camera gear and another backpack full of wrapped tea gear and a cast-iron pot.

There's a company in my city that only sells Taiwanese teas at about $20-70 per 100gm. They also have some bulk bins and the owner will make you a cup of the expensive stuff for like $6 a cup and gets really upset at the college kids who just down and walk out without going through his ceremony.

The best tea I've ever had was Makaibari estate from Darjeeling, and a few other estates that I forget now. Darjeelings are oolongs but a bit more delicate, and IMO can rival any popular Chinese oolong while still tasting different because of the difference in tree and climate. All the Darjeeling I've had outside India has been straight black tea garbage and I stopped wasting my money on it while having to concede that I just have to wait until I am in India to get the tea that I like.

Jerry Cotton
Nov 25, 2010



The gently caress is a gm?

5er
Jun 1, 2000



Let us English posted:

Is this also the thread to write about the beauty and clarity of modern Chinese literature?



Seems like a pretty straightforward "we must kill our way to outer space." The added 'like our dead grandparents want', adds that Confucian panache.


peanut posted:

My local drug store has a "LIMIT TWO" sign in Chinese for my favorite brand of diapers (for babby). Is this the new thing now that formula power is regulated?

Left: real / Right: fake



Did you just ask them why?

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level


SlipUp posted:

Global warming is gonna gently caress China hard. Rising sea level with most of their population near the sea and desertification when it's stuck between one of the largest deserts and the largest mountain range in the world? GTFO now if you're reading this.

Won't it gently caress Bangladesh harder? At least the survivors in China could move to whatever the new coastline is (likely still in China).

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

"When I see someone tilting my tables, I shoot the Bastard. That's my policy!"


Haier posted:

http://teamasters.blogspot.com/

This is the best tea autist blog. He takes really nice photos while reviewing teas that 99% of his readers will never be able to afford or find. He brings his huge tea kit outside all the time and always meticulously photographs every drop of tea. I just imagine this guy hunched over with a backpack full of camera gear and another backpack full of wrapped tea gear and a cast-iron pot.

There's a company in my city that only sells Taiwanese teas at about $20-70 per 100gm. They also have some bulk bins and the owner will make you a cup of the expensive stuff for like $6 a cup and gets really upset at the college kids who just down and walk out without going through his ceremony.

The best tea I've ever had was Makaibari estate from Darjeeling, and a few other estates that I forget now. Darjeelings are oolongs but a bit more delicate, and IMO can rival any popular Chinese oolong while still tasting different because of the difference in tree and climate. All the Darjeeling I've had outside India has been straight black tea garbage and I stopped wasting my money on it while having to concede that I just have to wait until I am in India to get the tea that I like.



Haier
Aug 10, 2007



http://chinalawtranslate.com/nsed/

I am sure John from Cincinnati teaching English to elementary school kids is out for state secrets.

Pac-Manioc Root
Jan 3, 2013

It's a little bitty place.

...Okay, I'll just wipe it off, that's all. Just a little town.

me chinese
me play joke
me cultivate several hectares of artichoke

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Haier posted:

http://teamasters.blogspot.com/

This is the best tea autist blog. He takes really nice photos while reviewing teas that 99% of his readers will never be able to afford or find. He brings his huge tea kit outside all the time and always meticulously photographs every drop of tea. I just imagine this guy hunched over with a backpack full of camera gear and another backpack full of wrapped tea gear and a cast-iron pot.

There's a company in my city that only sells Taiwanese teas at about $20-70 per 100gm. They also have some bulk bins and the owner will make you a cup of the expensive stuff for like $6 a cup and gets really upset at the college kids who just down and walk out without going through his ceremony.

The best tea I've ever had was Makaibari estate from Darjeeling, and a few other estates that I forget now. Darjeelings are oolongs but a bit more delicate, and IMO can rival any popular Chinese oolong while still tasting different because of the difference in tree and climate. All the Darjeeling I've had outside India has been straight black tea garbage and I stopped wasting my money on it while having to concede that I just have to wait until I am in India to get the tea that I like.



that's actually very badass

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

"When I see someone tilting my tables, I shoot the Bastard. That's my policy!"


Haier posted:

http://chinalawtranslate.com/nsed/

I am sure John from Cincinnati teaching English to elementary school kids is out for state secrets.

Ironically enough, China is the undisputed master of the "honeypot" spy.

The funny thing is that they are usually pretty homely looking honeypots. You'd think they would be recruiting Fan Bing Bing tier spies, but I guess frumpy "left over women" is enough for your average US/UK defence contractor.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011

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tbf it is pretty smart to capitalize on yellow fever for the purposes of espionage

that said most of what i have heard suggests that chinese spies tend to be pretty lovely and make up for lack of quality with sheer quantity, and that it's the russians who are the scary professionals

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse

Slippery Tilde

isme posted:

I know it's a common theme in this thread to talk about "5000 years of Chinese History", but I always cringe at the phrase. There is no evidence Chinese history is 5000 years old, little to no evidence it is 4000 years old, but safe to say that it is more than 3000 years old.

It is the same bullshit that sometimes Koreans claim that Korean history is at least 7000 years old because one of their god king ruled for 3000 years and they extended their influences all the way to Sumerian culture.

i think you will find that the chinese government is in fact less than 100 years old, op

they have much to learn from our ancient democracy

but if we're just talkin cultural history then america, inventor of freedom, has around 16,000 years of it

Haier
Aug 10, 2007



angel opportunity posted:

that's actually very badass
I used to read it a long time ago, but I remember he brought everything to the beach a few times and it looked miserable. I just really hope he's sharing that tea with people and not just pouring 4 cups to drink alone and take a photo of.

IronClaymore
Jun 30, 2010



Skeesix posted:

Won't it gently caress Bangladesh harder? At least the survivors in China could move to whatever the new coastline is (likely still in China).

I'm more worried about soil resource depletion. China has a lot of people, that's a lot of food and a lot of nutrients and a lot of farming. What'll run out first? Phosphorus will be fine unless globalisation dies and we can't keep dissolving Morocco with sulfuric acid. Iodine maybe? It'll be slow in coming. Some other trace element might come up?

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Navin Johnson
Mar 1, 2016


Farmers suck. Growing food for everyone. What a bunch of dicks.

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