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Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005



Maldoror posted:

The framed pic represents a meme from his past that was funny to him and his friends.

It would be like someone framing a pic of barnacle jim, then taking a picture of it in their room, then years later having the pic discovered and you lose your job because it's discovered you have a framed picture of a piece of poo poo in your bedroom and people are taking it out of context

I had nothing to do with these people so I don't know poo poo but I've seen enough poo poo where someone does or says or posts dumb poo poo (i've done it plenty of times myself) then it comes back out of context and everyone gangs up shouting pedo rapist etc. and no one can say anything now because if they do they're a pedo rapist etc. defender/apologist

oh no im a pedo rapist defender / apologist

Yeah. My wife is so over the tubgirl mural in the dining room.

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slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.

can someone post the script that automatically takes pictures of that newswoman on the ATI all-in-wonder TV card? I need it...for a friend.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014




Maldoror posted:

The framed pic represents a meme from his past that was funny to him and his friends.

It would be like someone framing a pic of barnacle jim, then taking a picture of it in their room, then years later having the pic discovered and you lose your job because it's discovered you have a framed picture of a piece of poo poo in your bedroom and people are taking it out of context

I had nothing to do with these people so I don't know poo poo but I've seen enough poo poo where someone does or says or posts dumb poo poo (i've done it plenty of times myself) then it comes back out of context and everyone gangs up shouting pedo rapist etc. and no one can say anything now because if they do they're a pedo rapist etc. defender/apologist

oh no im a pedo rapist defender / apologist

Sure.

quote:

I miss Kerri so much:~( All I have to remember her by is my large collection of photos, tapes and illegally obtained biological samples:( #17,275

Wow, all this talk of Frosty's mom and commenting about how I'm stalking her made me forget about my true purpose in life. !Kerri-Lee #19,787

Oh, I followed several women who looked sort of like Kerri-Lee around the science museum, but none of them turned out to be her:~( #13,846

http://trelane.hamtwoslices.net/index.php?query=kerri

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015


Maldoror posted:

The framed pic represents a meme from his past that was funny to him and his friends.

It would be like someone framing a pic of barnacle jim, then taking a picture of it in their room, then years later having the pic discovered and you lose your job because it's discovered you have a framed picture of a piece of poo poo in your bedroom and people are taking it out of context

I had nothing to do with these people so I don't know poo poo but I've seen enough poo poo where someone does or says or posts dumb poo poo (i've done it plenty of times myself) then it comes back out of context and everyone gangs up shouting pedo rapist etc. and no one can say anything now because if they do they're a pedo rapist etc. defender/apologist

oh no im a pedo rapist defender / apologist


Conspiratiorist posted:

Let's take this at face value. Let's say that in the 4 years between saying some of this horrible poo poo (while working at a school) and getting employed as the face of CIG, Ben Lesnick grew up mentally at least half as much as he did literally as a person.

Why does he not see anything wrong with this poo poo being still up? Why does he say that he still find the 'jokes' funny?

Makes you think.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014




CrazyLoon posted:

The latter you're gonna have to get in touch with Lauresh, since I was absent for a month right when that happened, but as for the former, sure I'll retell the tale, since the parties involved are pretty much okay with talking about it by now (was less so certain on that half a year ago). I'll try to keep it short for the gibbis.

Basically, Star Citizen had a chat. In said chat a married woman meets mr. personality, DickWulf, who starts getting really 'friendly' with her the moment he finds out she is a FEMALE, gifting her free spaceship .jpegs and whatnot. And just 3 days after that, she gets this in her e-mail (whose address he got automatically through gifting said spaceships, thanks to CIG's non-existent security considerations):





After which she has a rather...awkward as gently caress conversation with him about how it's not really cool, whose pics I don't have and for which you'll have to PM Raskolnikov (I'm certain she's okay with sharing them, but do note I'm addressing the guy I'm quoting here, not for every goddamn gibbis to spam her PM box).

So Raskolnikov, being her friend, complains about this to CIG moderators, about how it's really not cool this can happen to a married woman over the official site, and that it's not the first time with ole DickWulf and that there has been much talk of him doing it before. But mods stonewall her, saying: "Oh it happened over e-mail, outside of our jurisdiction!" while refusing to admit the only way he got her e-mail was because of how their gifting procedure is hosed up. So Raskolnikov tells off DickWulf publically in chat, that if he keeps doing this something bad will happen to him sooner or later, which the moderators interpret as her threatening to kill DickWulf and not only slap a probation onto her but also ban her from attending CitizenCon, Star Citizen's official yearly gathering, which she only finds out once she arrives there and only gets overturned, due to another big-time backer vouching for her.

So TL;DR - Misogynist rear end in a top hat (who himself is married) is prolly still stalking their forums, sending dick pics and any woman that complains about it gets punished, while he keeps on truckin' thanks to him spending 30-40k dollars on Star Shitizen. And all of which supervised and considered okay by good ole.

Good stuff. What a stand up guy.

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.

what was this guys job before star citizen?

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014



i still see no one defending this dude has provided an explanation for why he thought it appropriate, as the community manager or whatever of a company, posted a link to his website that contains cancer and pedophilia jokes and a stalking obsession and/or inside joke to his Twitter for the world to view

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006



Tortured By Flan

Maldoror posted:

The framed pic represents a meme from his past that was funny to him and his friends.

It would be like someone framing a pic of barnacle jim, then taking a picture of it in their room, then years later having the pic discovered and you lose your job because it's discovered you have a framed picture of a piece of poo poo in your bedroom and people are taking it out of context

I had nothing to do with these people so I don't know poo poo but I've seen enough poo poo where someone does or says or posts dumb poo poo (i've done it plenty of times myself) then it comes back out of context and everyone gangs up shouting pedo rapist etc. and no one can say anything now because if they do they're a pedo rapist etc. defender/apologist

oh no im a pedo rapist defender / apologist

keep in mind that these are the freaks who have been posting about this game they hate for like 2 decades now. Their opinions are worthless

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

CHOO! CHOO!
TANKIE COMIN THRU!





No, but you see it was an in-joke. Anytime he had an erection or thought of prepubescent children he had to mention !Kerri-lee the local news anchor in order to cure himself. !Kerri-Lee.

Skellybones
May 31, 2011






Fun Shoe

Homer J. Fong posted:

what was this guys job before star citizen?

he worked at a school

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

CHOO! CHOO!
TANKIE COMIN THRU!




symbolic posted:

i still see no one defending this dude has provided an explanation for why he thought it appropriate, as the community manager or whatever of a company, posted a link to his website that contains cancer and pedophilia jokes and a stalking obsession and/or inside joke to his Twitter for the world to view

Because someone found a part of the website about spiders that was apparently used as inspiration for one episode of the Big Bang Theory and he wanted to gloat. Yes that is all true. People found this website 5 months ago and only thought that piece of trivia was the interesting thing to mention.

Jon Do
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

from now on when anyone uses the "we were all young" response after confronted with some of the racist / pedo jokes and the sheer volume

i would easily consider to be down with that kind of poo poo.

dans
Nov 30, 2004



Grimey Drawer

Lord Binky posted:

keep in mind that these are the freaks who have been posting about this game they hate for like 2 decades now. Their opinions are worthless

wait, who hates what now?

Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005



Lord Binky posted:

Their opinions are worthless

So you're saying that pedophilia, misogyny, and racism are an acceptable part of Star Citizen culture?

Maldoror
Oct 5, 2003

by R. Guyovich


Nap Ghost

Frankenstyle posted:

Yeah. My wife is so over the tubgirl mural in the dining room.

tubgirl mural, hmmm

AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx


Frankenstyle posted:

So you're saying that pedophilia, misogyny, and racism are an acceptable part of Star Citizen culture?

Yes that is exactly what he is saying thanks,

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010




The Great Twist

CrazyLoon posted:

"Oh it happened over e-mail, outside of our jurisdiction!"

A nice addition to this is that people have been banned for off-site reasons, such as expressing doubts in the game and if it will ever see the light of day. So Ben sent a pretty clear message that sexual harassment is fine, but speaking out against his lord and saviour Christ Roberts is an unforgivable sin.

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006



Tortured By Flan

dans posted:

wait, who hates what now?

A lot of people on somethingawful really hate star citizen and want it to fail. That's why they're focusing on your old friend

edit I was joking when I said 2 decades. that's probably what confused you lol

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.

Well if the school had no problem with this guy then it's probably ok for him to work at a game scam company

Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005



AugmentedVision posted:

Yes that is exactly what he is saying thanks,

Easy now, no judgments.

I'm just making sure my BINGO card is marked right.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014




Lord Binky posted:

A lot of people on somethingawful really hate star citizen and want it to fail. That's why they're focusing on your old friend

THAT'S not true. I would love nothing more than for everything Chris Roberts promised to come true.

Can you imagine the grief we could cause in that game?

If Star Citizen never comes out, or comes out in a terrible state, we gloat. We win.
If Star Citizen comes out and is just half of what was promised, we have fun playing it. We win.

Abongination
Aug 18, 2010

Life, it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come.


Pillbug

Had any of this gotten out when he was working at a school he would have been fired immediately.

Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005



Lord Binky posted:

A lot of people on somethingawful really hate star citizen and want it to fail.

No one wants that. This joke has the potential to be funny for another decade or two.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."


Abongination posted:

Had any of this gotten out when he was working at a school he would have been fired immediately.

No, but you see - it's okay that he regularly made up these quirky, wacky jokes about wanting to have sex with 13-year olds while working at a school! It's so funny huehuehue!

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006



Tortured By Flan

Abongination posted:

Had any of this gotten out when he was working at a school he would have been fired immediately.

reminds me of when the poster Manyak got in trouble in college because someone noticed his fyad posts

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014



Jon Do posted:

from now on when anyone uses the "we were all young" response after confronted with some of the racist / pedo jokes and the sheer volume

i would easily consider to be down with that kind of poo poo.
also anyone who says the stalking obsession is an inside joke

the point of an inside joke is that it only makes sense to your small group of people you associate it with. if i said in real life, "dunk a dill pickle reald-o", people would think i'm loving nuts. same exact situation here.

Maldoror
Oct 5, 2003

by R. Guyovich


Nap Ghost

Frankenstyle posted:

So you're saying that pedophilia, misogyny, and racism are an acceptable part of Star Citizen culture?

It's never acceptable, and that's what makes it popular joke material to teenagers, fyad, immature comedians, etc.

I tend to believe what dans says. However, IMO that was a REALLY stupid idea for Ben to link that site on his company associated Twitter account where all his followers would see it.

I should point out that for some reason I also tend to be the person to stand in front of a crowd ready to throw stones, so you probably shouldn't let me convince you of anything. :P

Skellybones
May 31, 2011






Fun Shoe

Lord Binky posted:

A lot of people on somethingawful really hate star citizen and want it to fail. That's why they're focusing on your old friend

edit I was joking when I said 2 decades. that's probably what confused you lol

actually star citizen has only been in development for 6 months

Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005



Abongination posted:

Had any of this gotten out when he was working at a school he would have been fired immediately.

Reminds me of when the Jerry Sandusky got in trouble in college...

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

dans posted:

I'm not saying we were well-behaved netizens back in the day, I'm saying Ben isn't a creep, we were children when we made those websites, and all our in-joke bullshit should be taken with a grain of salt.
But you fail to make the distinction between the fact while it is immature ramblings, even when taken out of the context in which they were said, they are far from appropriate at any age.

In Ben's mind this is like when some celeb posts on twitter about some embarrassing style they wore back in the 80's. He fully expected people to laugh with him as if he didn't know better....at age 25. If this was just the spider facts page that would be the case.

Ben as a person is quite literally a mile wide and an inch deep when it comes to have any substance to his self worth.
Sure he got the short end of the stick as a kid but then no effort was really made to get him out and about and socialising with people and so he retreated into a safe space that he hasn't really been able to leave. I also get the feeling that he's been so wrapped up in cotton wool that he has quite the case of arrested development going on.

Him dropping out of college only just shows he has trouble doing things without some sort of adult assistance. And this still appears to be the case regarding him having to move states to work on SC.

He found the WC community as the one thing that accepted him and attached himself to it like some desperate leech and has spent the better part of twenty years obsessively immersing himself to the point where it's defined the only self worth he's ever known. As a result he becomes cocky and arrogant slowly pushing out other community leaders with such vitriol, even rejoicing in their deaths, till only he is left to run the ship of fools.

To make things worse this behaviour gets validated as he's eventually rewarded for his years of service as being the public face of his idol's latest creation.
You're talking about a person who at that point is verging on borderline shut-in and lives off a menial admin job at a school while writing up news posts that hallucinate potential sequels from nearly forgotten game franchises of the 90's. Now he gets paid to sit around in cushy digs with free food to live his dream - and the tragic irony is that's literally killing him.

On top of that he's given the controls to a new community from the ground up and sets up ridiculous rules about what can or can't be posted and mandatory polls dishing out the law at every moment. Plus he's an individual who has very little solid experience outside his comfort zone to deal with sensitive subjects in a proper way.

Of course he runs into the dilemma where you have backers who are just as broken and even more so as himself (see WulfKnight).
People so ostracised from social norms that they try to buy themselves some sort of community acceptance in the thousands of dollars expecting some sort of say in the creation of a dream video game or even buying people ships to try and gain their affections.

So to save the company coffers they get a light slap on the wrist for posting CP while valid concerns get banished to the wasteland as there's only so many hours in the day and free doughnuts to eat and sitting around watching all the Star Wars movies on company time.


Keep in mind this the public face of a company that has been publicly accused by former employees of racist and discriminatory hiring practices, done at a whim because the person hiring subjectively picks and chooses people based on broad assumptions of their personal grooming. Yup, someone wasn't hired because she was claimed to look like someone who doesn't shave down there.

And then you have the self described "job tourist" who claims he ran a baseball team in his teens yet until someone put the clippers to him looked like a hobo they'd let in. Said hobo leaked 34gb of game assets onto a public FTP, including a working build of the game and somehow kept his job.

TL;DR
90's video game obsessed manchild gets wrapped in cotton wool and refuses to grow up and take responsibility for his actions that are now damaging the reputation of the company he works for. Said company too afraid of community reprisals and potential loss of money to fire him.

BogDew fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Apr 18, 2016

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

CHOO! CHOO!
TANKIE COMIN THRU!




Frankenstyle posted:

Reminds me of when the Jerry Sandusky got in trouble in college...

Sports makes schools money. Some creep in the IT closet is toast.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014




WebDog posted:

But you fail to make the distinction between the fact while it is immature ramblings, even when taken out of the context in which they were said, they are far from appropriate at any age.

In Ben's mind this is like when some celeb posts on twitter about some embarrassing style they wore back in the 80's. He fully expected people to laugh with him as if he didn't know better....at age 25. If this was just the spider facts page that would be the case.

Ben as a person is quite literally a mile wide and an inch deep when it comes to have any substance to his self worth.
Sure he got the short end of the stick as a kid but then no effort was really made to get him out and about and socialising with people and so he retreated into a safe space that he hasn't really been able to leave. I also get the feeling that he's been so wrapped up in cotton wool that he has quite the case of arrested development going on.

Him dropping out of college only just shows he has trouble doing things without some sort of adult assistance. And this still appears to be the case regarding him having to move states to work on SC.

He found the WC community as the one thing that accepted him and attached himself to it like some desperate leech and has spent the better part of twenty years obsessively immersing himself to the point where it's defined the only self worth he's ever known. As a result he becomes cocky and arrogant slowly pushing out other community leaders with such vitriol, even rejoicing in their deaths, till only he is left to run the ship of fools.

To make things worse this behaviour gets validated as he's eventually rewarded for his years of service as being the public face of his idol's latest creation.
You're talking about a person who at that point is verging on borderline shut-in and lives off a menial admin job at a school while writing up news posts that hallucinate potential sequels from nearly forgotten game franchises of the 90's. Now he gets paid to sit around in cushy digs with free food to live his dream - and the tragic irony is that's literally killing him.

On top of that he's given the controls to a new community from the ground up and sets up ridiculous rules about what can or can't be posted and mandatory polls dishing out the law at every moment. Plus he's an individual who has very little solid experience outside his comfort zone to deal with sensitive subjects in a proper way.

Of course he runs into the dilemma where you have backers who are just as broken and even more so as himself (see WulfKnight).
People so ostracised from social norms that they try to buy themselves some sort of community acceptance in the thousands of dollars expecting some sort of say in the creation of a dream video game or even buying people ships to try and gain their affections.

So to save the company coffers they get a light slap on the wrist for posting CP while valid concerns get banished to the wasteland as there's only so many hours in the day and free doughnuts to eat and sitting around watching all the Star Wars movies on company time.


Keep in mind this the public face of a company that has been publicly accused by former employees of racist and discriminatory hiring practices, done at a whim because the person hiring subjectively picks and chooses people based on broad assumptions of their personal grooming. Yup, someone wasn't hired because she was claimed to look like someone who doesn't shave down there.

And then you have the self described "job tourist" who claims he ran a baseball team in his teens yet until someone put the clippers to him looked like a hobo they'd let in. Said hobo leaked 34gb of game assets onto a public FTP, including a working build of the game and somehow kept his job.

TL;DR
90's video game obsessed manchild gets wrapped in cotton wool and refuses to grow up and take responsibility for his actions that are now damaging the reputation of the company he works for. Said company too afraid of community reprisals and potential loss of money to fire him.



Seriously, that was good.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."



You mah dawg, WebDog.

Given there's one of Ben's buddies posting ITT, you posted your own anecdote from someone who also hung out with him that was far less rosy than this one's lol. I honestly mean this, it'd be good to have you check this thread now and then, to debate this person. Not just because it'd be amusing, but also to have one person 'who knew Ben back in the day' talk to another one who knows someone 'who knew Ben back in the day', only from opposite sides.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002

FREE HONG KONG


Upset Trowel

Orcs and Ostriches posted:

A nice addition to this is that people have been banned for off-site reasons, such as expressing doubts in the game and if it will ever see the light of day. So Ben sent a pretty clear message that sexual harassment is fine, but speaking out against his lord and saviour Christ Roberts is an unforgivable sin.

Yep, this is why it matters.

Scumbag to women in his job, sleazy stalker creep in his past. Pattern of behavior. A bad attitude that he cant separate from his work, at a job where he has some form of authority over other people.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010



WebDog posted:

good post
Webdog, where have you been?

Kakarot
Jul 20, 2013

by zen death robot


Buglord

He would be in jail if this got out while he was working at the school

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014




OP updated

parthenocarpy
Dec 17, 2003



took a couple hours and a late run to walmart for more ink (lol that stuff is expensive!!) but i got the ships printed out. gota figure out a way to make these babies waterproof. they will serve as a roof above my head, expecing an eviction notice in two weeks. been a while since the last rent payment but in my defense been alot of good ship sales recently and less mouths to feed around here lately with the fam out of my way so why not is my perspective.

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012


hey dans you shared this with your friends and family? all my friends got a good laugh, yours might too

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spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014




parthenocarpy posted:

took a couple hours and a late run to walmart for more ink (lol that stuff is expensive!!) but i got the ships printed out. gota figure out a way to make these babies waterproof. they will serve as a roof above my head, expecing an eviction notice in two weeks. been a while since the last rent payment but in my defense been alot of good ship sales recently and less mouths to feed around here lately with the fam out of my way so why not is my perspective.

Which of these guys is you?





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