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spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

CIG staff tried to have a couple of live streams yesterday. They had to shut down the comment section because of the Ben stuff.



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a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

parthenocarpy posted:

took a couple hours and a late run to walmart for more ink (lol that stuff is expensive!!) but i got the ships printed out. gota figure out a way to make these babies waterproof. they will serve as a roof above my head, expecing an eviction notice in two weeks. been a while since the last rent payment but in my defense been alot of good ship sales recently and less mouths to feed around here lately with the fam out of my way so why not is my perspective.
the rain should have the respect to steer clear of those bad boys.

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

well as to who i am what does that matter. the choice is mine and i love big ships more than lucy and trinity, even little mo

Maldoror
Oct 5, 2003

by R. Guyovich
Nap Ghost



lmao

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

Tortured By Flan
it took me a second to realize the one serious guy in the middle isn't real

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Hey guys

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Lord Binky posted:

it took me a second to realize the one serious guy in the middle isn't real
he's too lacking in very short yet somehow unruly facial hair

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Eonwe posted:

Hey guys

o9

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Eonwe posted:

Hey guys

What's up Eonwe!

Hey guys, imagine the nazis in this video are CIG. Goons are still the good guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJqBBb4yO4

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Lord Binky posted:

it took me a second to realize the one serious guy in the middle isn't real

~Maximum Fidelity achieved~

Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX
Oh good after all the Jared threads dried up I was afraid I wouldn't be able to post eat fresh anymore.







eat fresh

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

spacetoaster posted:

Can you recommend a good one for my kids and I to play? We do Space Hulk, Battletech, and Deathstorm (pretty much every GW boardgame too). I've been looking for something new to try.

Beyond the Wall is pretty cool. It's an OSR game (old school revolution, essentially shorthand for based on one of the really early D&D sets, though usually with plenty of custom stuff) meant to be played as short adventures and during character creation the players link themselves into the childhoods of the other players and help design their shared home village. The adventures, character kits and GM materials are really trying to evoke the storybook, coming of age, fairy tale vibe. Can't remember who's behind this one.

Another cool option is Mouseguard, based on a comic by the same name. It's based on a modified version of the Burning Wheel game by Luke Crane, I believe. It's about badass mice who fight to defend their homes and loved ones.

It's certainly not indie, but the newest edition of Dungeons and Dragons is actually really good and much easier to get a grasp on than previous versions. Part of this is because they decided to look back to their roots, and simplify a lot.

If you like sci-fi, I recommend Stars Without Number by Kevin Crawford. He's my current man crush and I feel everything he does is golden. Stars Without Number is available for free.

For board games, I'm partial to Pandemic. It's a cooperative race against time to find the cures for multiple epidemics before the world is doomed. Each player gets a specialist and planning and working together is the way to go.

Haskell9
Sep 23, 2008

post it live
The Great Twist

dans posted:

Being funny or not isn't the point, we were idiot edgelords shooting our mouths off, we never expected any of this stuff to go outside our little network of weirdos.

have fun explaining fyad to CNN

Haskell9
Sep 23, 2008

post it live
The Great Twist

Eonwe posted:

Hey guys

lol

ANIME IS BLOOD
Sep 4, 2008

by zen death robot

dans posted:

It's all super innocent, we were just a bunch of weirdo Wing Commander IRC babies with too much time on our hands, we had lots of time saved up from not dating to come up with really dumb in-jokes that just sort of perpetuated themselves. We had a rule that we had to say "shields up!" whenever Brooke Shields came on TV so we started saying it in the late 1990s, then it became the 2000s, and now here we are in 2016 and just a few days ago by force of habit I said "shields up" because I thought I saw Brooke Shields on TV.
This is all intensely stupid and that weird kind of innocent bullshit that comes from a bunch of weirdos with nothing better to do than try to make each other laugh. Like a vaguely-Wing Commander-themed FYAD before there were the SA forums.

dans posted:

It's not like he's a creeper any more than the average FYAD poster is a creeper. I've said tons of stupid poo poo I don't believe in FYAD that I wouldn't say anywhere else, it's like that. It's performance. It's us holding on to dumb poo poo we did twenty years ago, it's not going to be particularly good, we were children.

it's time to close FYAD

mods knew

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Lord Binky posted:

I hope some dude isn't going to lose his job because of irony
Why not. That would be awesome

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

This is a bit old but good.

Should start at 00:48

Watch to at least two minutes in.

She's talking about us.

We are the "anonymous hate campaign".

https://youtu.be/n1ePYE2hd3I?t=48

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Dammit guys, Subway doesn't say Eat Fresh any longer! Now they say Fresh Is What We Do which is even worse. I wonder how much they paid marketing to walk right into that one?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



"it's no worse than fyad" is apologism akin to "waterboarding? psh, let me tell you what they do to prisoners in north korea! we're pretty lenient when u think about it"

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Otisburg posted:

"it's no worse than fyad" is apologism akin to "waterboarding? psh, let me tell you what they do to prisoners in north korea! we're pretty lenient when u think about it"
lol

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i have no idea how star citizen continues to find new ways to be hilariously pathetic but it does. it's a joke that never gets old

a hole-y ghost posted:

Why not. That would be awesome
it's crossed the irony line, he's stared into the abyss for 20+ years and now it's manifesting itself in stuff like discriminatory hiring

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

also I don't know FYAD guys well enough to be sure that they're not creepers irl

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
Only ironically a paedophile :shrug:

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
This is a level of humour you just wouldn't 'get'

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Skellybones posted:

This is a level of humour you just wouldn't 'get'
It's kind of like FYAD, but instead of ironically making fun of internet culture it's just writing thousands and thousands of sentences about how you want to put your dick into a nine year old child.

1000 Sweaty Rikers
Oct 13, 2005



heh

AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx
We are strong.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?




what even is that

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Otisburg posted:

what even is that





DISCO KING
Oct 30, 2012

STILL
TRYING
TOO
HARD
I M G A Y

1000 Sweaty Rikers
Oct 13, 2005


yeah that or it's a GE Cafe figure as it has a giant rod stuck in it's rear end

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Maldoror posted:

Did you know Lesnick was LOAF?

Anyway, goons didn't dig it up. Lesnick tweeted it himself thinking it would be funny. :mmmhmm:

it was

alpaca diseases
May 19, 2009

WebDog posted:

Ben as a person is quite literally a mile wide

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

dans posted:

Being funny or not isn't the point, we were idiot edgelords shooting our mouths off, we never expected any of this stuff to go outside our little network of weirdos.
I'm sure Ben felt the same thing when he posted it on his twitter account and the forums for all to see in the hopes of scoring internet points for his spider facts being found for Big Bang Theory because he's such a funny guy!
Any attention to him is good attention as he tries to shrug it off as wacky hijinks because he is that socially broken with a personality that is entombed in cult pop culture.

He had all the time in the world to prevent this from happening when it was pointed out to him well before others found out, and yet his response towards it is damning. It's telling that he hid the Kelly pics, not the crass jokes, as I suspect people have had a stern talk with him in the past about what's appropriate and what isn't - they're his guilty pleasure.

And then on top of that he didn't keep it a secret anyway. It was such common knowledge that members of his community enabled his fixation by sending him framed photos which he saw as such an amusing joke that he put it on his bedside table where it was kept there well into his twenties.
It's a far from some silly teenage crush where you might stick a poster on the wall as Bens comments suggest the kind of typical behaviour of people who hit on cashiers because they are lonely and the cashier is kind to them.

Ben fails to see the distinction between being noticed for something that's worthwhile or amusing vs something that has utterly ruined his reputation.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
Dude is creepy and his reputation should be shot. This only makes me happy because that dude collected a bajillion dollars before this poo poo came to life. Like loving :lol:, the dude kept his poo poo afloat long enough to become Scrooge McDuck rich.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


That's legitimately really creepy.

AlmightyPants
Mar 14, 2001

King of Scheduling
Pillbug

dans posted:

Being funny or not isn't the point, we were idiot edgelords shooting our mouths off, we never expected any of this stuff to go outside our little network of weirdos.

I understand this. Lots of kids go through this phase. I know I did.

The difference was I was a teenager. A lot of this poo poo was said when Ben was a loving adult. The dates back this up. He was at the age where he should've known better.

Now you can go with the "oh, well we were just friends making edgy comments to one another" argument. Again, I can understand that. My friends and I say atrocious things around and to each other. It's friends being jerks together, one of my favorite activities.

The difference here is that we do not loving archive tens of thousands of said things in a searchable format on a public website for years on end. And even, for whatever reason, if anything truly heinous was written down, one would assume that it would be kept privately. Again, not in a searchable, public format.

Ben is the face of a $112 million dollar company. When this whole thing broke and I actually became offended at his casual antisemitism, I tweeted him, asking for an apology or retraction. Because, you know, that's what normal people would do in this situation. Not just go, "ha ha ha I sure said some unfunny jokes a while ago". And then nothing.

I feel like an old man sometimes, but I've read some awful poo poo on the internet and very little offends me. The fact that your buddy Ben, instead of sending out an apology or retraction or something, spent the weekend tweeting about seeing movies offends me. It offends me that this very public figure, supposedly representing and managing the community of over a million people could be so callous and disrespectful.

And ultimately, his worst sin is not in saying bad poo poo in the past. It's his complete inability to apologize for it in the present.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

AlmightyPants posted:

I understand this. Lots of kids go through this phase. I know I did.

The difference was I was a teenager. A lot of this poo poo was said when Ben was a loving adult. The dates back this up. He was at the age where he should've known better.

Now you can go with the "oh, well we were just friends making edgy comments to one another" argument. Again, I can understand that. My friends and I say atrocious things around and to each other. It's friends being jerks together, one of my favorite activities.

The difference here is that we do not loving archive tens of thousands of said things in a searchable format on a public website for years on end. And even, for whatever reason, if anything truly heinous was written down, one would assume that it would be kept privately. Again, not in a searchable, public format.

Ben is the face of a $112 million dollar company. When this whole thing broke and I actually became offended at his casual antisemitism, I tweeted him, asking for an apology or retraction. Because, you know, that's what normal people would do in this situation. Not just go, "ha ha ha I sure said some unfunny jokes a while ago". And then nothing.

I feel like an old man sometimes, but I've read some awful poo poo on the internet and very little offends me. The fact that your buddy Ben, instead of sending out an apology or retraction or something, spent the weekend tweeting about seeing movies offends me. It offends me that this very public figure, supposedly representing and managing the community of over a million people could be so callous and disrespectful.

And ultimately, his worst sin is not in saying bad poo poo in the past. It's his complete inability to apologize for it in the present.

Ben is the Director of Online Strategy I think.

Because he is so good at online strategy.

Minimalist Program
Aug 14, 2010

WebDog posted:

But you fail to make the distinction between the fact while it is immature ramblings, even when taken out of the context in which they were said, they are far from appropriate at any age.

In Ben's mind this is like when some celeb posts on twitter about some embarrassing style they wore back in the 80's. He fully expected people to laugh with him as if he didn't know better....at age 25. If this was just the spider facts page that would be the case.

Ben as a person is quite literally a mile wide and an inch deep when it comes to have any substance to his self worth.
Sure he got the short end of the stick as a kid but then no effort was really made to get him out and about and socialising with people and so he retreated into a safe space that he hasn't really been able to leave. I also get the feeling that he's been so wrapped up in cotton wool that he has quite the case of arrested development going on.

Him dropping out of college only just shows he has trouble doing things without some sort of adult assistance. And this still appears to be the case regarding him having to move states to work on SC.

He found the WC community as the one thing that accepted him and attached himself to it like some desperate leech and has spent the better part of twenty years obsessively immersing himself to the point where it's defined the only self worth he's ever known. As a result he becomes cocky and arrogant slowly pushing out other community leaders with such vitriol, even rejoicing in their deaths, till only he is left to run the ship of fools.

To make things worse this behaviour gets validated as he's eventually rewarded for his years of service as being the public face of his idol's latest creation.
You're talking about a person who at that point is verging on borderline shut-in and lives off a menial admin job at a school while writing up news posts that hallucinate potential sequels from nearly forgotten game franchises of the 90's. Now he gets paid to sit around in cushy digs with free food to live his dream - and the tragic irony is that's literally killing him.

On top of that he's given the controls to a new community from the ground up and sets up ridiculous rules about what can or can't be posted and mandatory polls dishing out the law at every moment. Plus he's an individual who has very little solid experience outside his comfort zone to deal with sensitive subjects in a proper way.

Of course he runs into the dilemma where you have backers who are just as broken and even more so as himself (see WulfKnight).
People so ostracised from social norms that they try to buy themselves some sort of community acceptance in the thousands of dollars expecting some sort of say in the creation of a dream video game or even buying people ships to try and gain their affections.

So to save the company coffers they get a light slap on the wrist for posting CP while valid concerns get banished to the wasteland as there's only so many hours in the day and free doughnuts to eat and sitting around watching all the Star Wars movies on company time.


Keep in mind this the public face of a company that has been publicly accused by former employees of racist and discriminatory hiring practices, done at a whim because the person hiring subjectively picks and chooses people based on broad assumptions of their personal grooming. Yup, someone wasn't hired because she was claimed to look like someone who doesn't shave down there.

And then you have the self described "job tourist" who claims he ran a baseball team in his teens yet until someone put the clippers to him looked like a hobo they'd let in. Said hobo leaked 34gb of game assets onto a public FTP, including a working build of the game and somehow kept his job.

TL;DR
90's video game obsessed manchild gets wrapped in cotton wool and refuses to grow up and take responsibility for his actions that are now damaging the reputation of the company he works for. Said company too afraid of community reprisals and potential loss of money to fire him.

Haha jesus dude.

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Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day
I love webdog effortposts. Make you think.

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