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Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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I guess this is the thread where we all pretend we didn't all go through an angsty pedo phase in our 20s :rolleyes:

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Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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Ryoshi posted:

is derek smart a good guy or a bad guy i don't speak space moron language

from what I can tell he's an ally, though I am not taking part in the space video game war

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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I suppose you never creeped out on a TV ladyy either? You make me sick.

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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that 4th stimpire thing is really cool.. it's like if someone mixed 1984 with the porn I watch

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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dans posted:

Holy poo poo, where did you people dig this up from? I was one of LOAF's friends way back then and it's really weird to see our ancient in-jokes becoming a thing.

wait are you serious lol. I hope some dude isn't going to lose his job because of irony

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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Jon Do posted:

noone's saying he was dead serious when he said that poo poo, or that the context isn't missing

we're saying that there's no way that these can cover up serious trends of racism and pedophilia in humor

topics which aren't funny

boy, don't click on the forum one down from this one... it'd blow your freakin mind!

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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the 100s of pictures of the news lady is still pretty funny, though

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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xrunner posted:

When it comes to racism you just have to realize you can't hide behind excuses like "in-jokes" or "immaturity." If you put this kind of stuff out into the world, you can't expect people to know your intentions or understand you were just joking, especially because plenty of people who mean exactly what they say will hide behind "just in-jokes" or "I was being ironic" or whatever. It's the same with pedo stuff, people can't really tell if you're going for shock humor or you actually mean it. You, dans, can't even really be sure that he didn't mean it, because you are only privy to your own intentions.

are you a time traveler from old gbs?

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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spacetoaster posted:

You should scroll back a few of my posts and read the stimpire fanfic.

Oh, and this:

hmm, he didn't seem to care about the bad N word for some reason

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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xrunner posted:

Me? Nah. I haven't posted in gbs ever I don't think - I was lured in from lurking in the games thread. Is this something I shouldn't have said due to forum culture or something? I was trying to be helpful to the guy about why people wouldn't be likely to buy his defense.

Yeah, the forum culture here is basically being a retard

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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maybe he started off joking about this stuff and then suffered from irony poisoning. Caught the prodromal schizophrenia maybe???

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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Codependent Poster posted:

I ended up going to class last night. Which was okayer than I thought. Because my teacher announced she has cancer and is cancelling every class after next week. Sometimes luck just goes my way. #21,083

yeah that is a pretty good one that shows that the dude was making really old ironic jokes

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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he was probably trying to do it before one of the many obsessive weirdos who can't stop talking about this game did so

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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Maldoror posted:

The framed pic represents a meme from his past that was funny to him and his friends.

It would be like someone framing a pic of barnacle jim, then taking a picture of it in their room, then years later having the pic discovered and you lose your job because it's discovered you have a framed picture of a piece of poo poo in your bedroom and people are taking it out of context

I had nothing to do with these people so I don't know poo poo but I've seen enough poo poo where someone does or says or posts dumb poo poo (i've done it plenty of times myself) then it comes back out of context and everyone gangs up shouting pedo rapist etc. and no one can say anything now because if they do they're a pedo rapist etc. defender/apologist

oh no im a pedo rapist defender / apologist :sad:

keep in mind that these are the freaks who have been posting about this game they hate for like 2 decades now. Their opinions are worthless

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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dans posted:

wait, who hates what now?

A lot of people on somethingawful really hate star citizen and want it to fail. That's why they're focusing on your old friend

edit I was joking when I said 2 decades. that's probably what confused you lol

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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Abongination posted:

Had any of this gotten out when he was working at a school he would have been fired immediately.

reminds me of when the poster Manyak got in trouble in college because someone noticed his fyad posts

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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it took me a second to realize the one serious guy in the middle isn't real

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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I take out garbage without putting on socks all the times and now I'm starting to doubt myself

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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ZenMaster posted:

Cross posting from the Star Citizen thread:

:siren:EFFORT POST::siren:

For the morning crew to chew on, if I am being a jerk let me know, I will delete this, I am not minimizing depression or what Ben went through.



Timeline from very weak googling:





Been reading a lot of information put other there by Ben after Benghazi dropped... something didn't add up... and I read more than a few conflicting statements...

He wrote two LJ updates, one of April 16th and April 18th, 2016 to explain himself.

Ben makes one apology in the April 16th LJ update:


He is sorry it's so boring! I guess we are all just dum dums! Actually, this is a dodge. No one cares about his LJs. They are not the true issue here, it is the IRC chats. They are full of racism, pedophilia-related content, and threats of murder and violence (some against children). No one is using the LJs to troll Ben, or at least, that would be worthless as they are boring. But, Ben can explain the chats:

Ben Lesnick, April 16, 2016:


So, he's blaming SA for his disgusting IRC chats, right? Cause it convenient to blame the ones calling you out, no?

Something Awful was founded in 1999. Ben Lesnick would have been 18 years old when it was founded. Depending on when he discovered it and how long it took to 'idolize' it, he could well have been 19-20. This is further proven with:


The #WINGNUT IRC chat was founded in 1997 (and WCNEWS in 1998) a full 2 years before SA existed. If SA is to blame, this this:

Ben Lesnick, April 18, 2016:


is bollocks.

Two things here: If Something Awful is to blame as he says in the first missive, then this is simply not true. He would have been 18-20 range, an adult. Secondly, no one ever teased him for thinking cartoon anime women are hot. Some rational people might tell you that THINKING CARTOON ANIME CHILDREN are hot is BAD....that is the issue.... and if he was 17, how is a 17 year old thinking a 10 year old is "hot" and describing sexual things ok anywhere? Ben admits in graphic detail what he would do to a ten year old "cartoon anime woman," er child...

So, let's assume for the moment all of his gross rants and Hitler jokes and shooting up a classroom jokes are his to own, and not SA's fault... he was 17 and misguided.. he seriously was angry at the world? No friends, family, and nothing to live for? Losing your sight would be devastating, I am not minimized that at all... and maybe he did hide how he was feeling, but look at this.. is this the world of a anti-social, angsty teen who wrote those horrible things?











I get you were mad, depressed, and felt you wouldn't get out of life what you wanted... it would make anyone depressed. But it seems you had a tight family who loved you. Big parties, similar interests, and there are LJ after LJ of Ben buying things... every LJ is him buying a new toy or DVD series and enjoying it... he is passionate, and it shows... what doesn't show is the reason for the disturbing chats.

Who you are in secret is who you are in reality. That was exposed recently. I believe you have changed, but stop blaming everything and everyone else. Those things were inside you at one point, and you let them spill out onto the web in vibrant color, and people accepted you and you only got worse. Form 2002 and beyond you do some amazing things in your life, stuff even I have never done... I assume 1997-2002 was similar... your dad seems cool, did you go to Civil War reenactments with him? Museums with your mom, aquariums with your sister? I think you did...

But Ben, why do you never address: why did losing an eye make you joke about sex with kids? About shooting up a schoolroom of kids? How is the excuse that you felt you "had the world figure out" applicable? I would agree if it were embarrassing political posts or dumb ideas about society and its ill that were uncovered. If Sept 11th made you mad, why the racist rant against blacks, Chinese, etc? How do jokes about murdering kids fit into that narrative?

They don't. I do not deny you were very depressed. I do not claim to know how you felt during those dark times, and I am glad you found an outlet and friends to get through... but normal conversations between friends don't include these things. And if they do no one keeps a record of their awfulness. And then doubles down as to why they were kept.

If he truly did hate the world at one point and was just a dumb kid, it would have been in 1997-1999 time frame, and his chats would have started way before SA and any influence that would have had.


So by maybe, 24 you had mellowed?





Sorry, you were 27 when you wrote this stuff... lesson not learned?


DarkOff had a bit more to add, thanks Dark.

this kind of poo poo might get you lots of friends in games, but here in GBS we expect references

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Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

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I went into games to see how they reacted to that big gay post but they've posted like 30 pages of poo poo today. The thread is 3441 pages long lol

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