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Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Rip and tear through the Vorticons. :black101:

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Rushputin
Jul 19, 2007
Intense, but quick to finish
I'm sad I didn't join this on the ground floor because I'm a German who played Wolf3D as a child (technically super-illegal) and would have enjoyed making fun of some of the stuff the enemies say (has anyone even commented on the iconic "mein Leben"?).

Still, this is the first anthology LP I've watched where I didn't have some problem with the style or quality of commentating, so good job on that. I really like the concept and hope there will be more series and genre overview threads with informative content about how things evolved over time.

Having said that, I think to be perfect the LP would need some sort of veteran who's a decade or so older than you guys at least, because it's kind of hard to explain the fascination of some of this stuff when you didn't play it when it was new. I've played Doom with another goon after suggesting to try out some old co-op stuff and we basically had the opposite problem: We had a blast, but it would have been even greater to have some young whippersnapper playing with us to whom we could explain why some of the stuff was so significant back then. Id in particular is a company who was always on the vanguard of gaming technology, at least back in the olden days, with almost every Quake or Doom engine seeming like a paradigm shift.

Anyway, good work, guys. Here's to a long-lasting mammoth of a thread.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Rushputin posted:

I'm sad I didn't join this on the ground floor because I'm a German who played Wolf3D as a child (technically super-illegal) and would have enjoyed making fun of some of the stuff the enemies say (has anyone even commented on the iconic "mein Leben"?).

Still, this is the first anthology LP I've watched where I didn't have some problem with the style or quality of commentating, so good job on that. I really like the concept and hope there will be more series and genre overview threads with informative content about how things evolved over time.

Having said that, I think to be perfect the LP would need some sort of veteran who's a decade or so older than you guys at least, because it's kind of hard to explain the fascination of some of this stuff when you didn't play it when it was new. I've played Doom with another goon after suggesting to try out some old co-op stuff and we basically had the opposite problem: We had a blast, but it would have been even greater to have some young whippersnapper playing with us to whom we could explain why some of the stuff was so significant back then. Id in particular is a company who was always on the vanguard of gaming technology, at least back in the olden days, with almost every Quake or Doom engine seeming like a paradigm shift.

Anyway, good work, guys. Here's to a long-lasting mammoth of a thread.

Well there's more gratuitous poor German coming up in the expansion packs that we haven't commentated over yet. I'm open to having more people join us. Our oldest guy is Coffee, and I think that's only by like 4 years.
Also, thanks for the kind words!

Rushputin
Jul 19, 2007
Intense, but quick to finish
Well, I've played most main id FPSes up until about Quake 4 at the time they were released, and I have seen friends play pretty much every PC shooter that came out in the 90s, so I'm sure I could find some things to say. But any of the Wolfenstein games would probably be a good candidate.

Note, however, that in the original Wolf3D, most of the German is either complete nonsense or mispronounced so badly that I could never make it out. Maybe if I can summon up the energy I'll make a post about voice samples.

Gloomy Rube
Mar 4, 2008



It's kinda amazing how Commander Keen improved from the first game in a short amount of time. 2 and 3 have better level design by a lot compared to the various mazes in 1.

Though, watching this video was all I needed to finally realize that the aliens from Half-Life aren't the aliens from Keen, despite them both starting with Vorti-

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?
Sorry to interrupt, because this is jumping ahead just a little, but... do you know the brand new Doom game, out for a week tomorrow?

It's good. Really good; probably the best shooter I've played since... I don't know how long. Weapons are thunderous in your hand, fighting is fast and visceral, the monsters are gorgeous and truly feel like updates from their classic versions, and it's taking me a while to play through because I keep looking for secrets in the big juicy levels. Check out the Games thread for more information; I highly recommend it.

But this LP needs about 18+ years to get there, so I do apologize for jumping the gun a little. Just wanted to share. Carry on! (Great LP.)

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

KennyMan666 posted:

Obviously Hitler needed a lot of milkmen to make sure he always had milk for breakfast. I mean, we all know what he thought of juice.

(I'm sorry)

Don't be.

I can just imagine Hitler sitting down for his Kruppflakes, raging over the lack of milk.

THE BAR fucked around with this message at 13:26 on May 20, 2016

Capilarean
Apr 10, 2009

Gloomy Rube posted:

It's kinda amazing how Commander Keen improved from the first game in a short amount of time. 2 and 3 have better level design by a lot compared to the various mazes in 1.

Though, watching this video was all I needed to finally realize that the aliens from Half-Life aren't the aliens from Keen, despite them both starting with Vorti-

Uh, have you played Keen 3? Because the level design is ABYSMAL. The whole game was cranked out in a couple weeks or so and it shows.

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

Capilarean posted:

Uh, have you played Keen 3? Because the level design is ABYSMAL. The whole game was cranked out in a couple weeks or so and it shows.

Not to mention that just three levels are required to complete the game. Out of seventeen.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Spear of Destiny Part 1

We talked about our optimism for the new Doom game in this one. I'm glad it turned out to be great!

cbx
Dec 4, 2007

Smasher Dynamo's assistant of the Super-League.
If you guys are looking for older co-commentators, I'm in my 30s, and I used to build computers to keep up with the id games. Was even a Quake 2 player on MSN's The Zone multiplayer arena. I'll have some free time coming up this week.

Minty
May 3, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Temin_Dump posted:

Spear of Destiny Part 1

We talked about our optimism for the new Doom game in this one. I'm glad it turned out to be great!

Looks like some of the textures they used in DooM I/II popped up here as well

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




cbx posted:

Was even a Quake 2 player on MSN's The Zone multiplayer arena. I'll have some free time coming up this week.

my parents wouldn't let me play online when Quake 2 was the rage but I remember watching my brother play online :3:

We also had two computers so instead we would do 1v1 Outlaws

Gloomy Rube
Mar 4, 2008



Capilarean posted:

Uh, have you played Keen 3? Because the level design is ABYSMAL. The whole game was cranked out in a couple weeks or so and it shows.

The answer to that question is "no I haven't" and I was just assuming it was good based on 2 and 4 :v:

Crembo
Sep 1, 2004
zionist conspirator
Excellent LP so far, but one small gripe with the sound balance: when you talk, you overpower the music; but you never stop talking for more than two or three seconds. (which makes your "oh this is a nice song" comments a little frustrating)

Captain Rufus
Sep 16, 2005

CAPTAIN WORD SALAD

OFF MY MEDS AGAIN PLEASE DON'T USE BIG WORDS

UNNECESSARY LINE BREAK
Enjoying the Lps so far. Also it's reminded me my Id and friends collection isn't complete so I ordered Hexen yesterday.

Wouldn't mind seeing Shadowcaster in there. Also some of the source ports like Tenebrae which was the best goddamned thing I seem unable to find any more. Or it doesn't work nowadays. I forget. But it's the best way to Quake. As opposed to my 22 year old rear end trying to play it on a 486 sx with a 133 Overdrive chip back in the day.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Tenebrae was an unfinished mess, trying to shoehorn Doom 3-style lighting into Quake. It's like those HD texture packs, they just don't look right for the low-poly environments.

Quakespasm with linear texture filtering and software-style lighting, that's the way to play Quake. The textures were never meant to be bilinear filtered, they get all washed out looking. It's the same thing with Doom.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 09:02 on May 21, 2016

Gloomy Rube
Mar 4, 2008



Crembo posted:

Excellent LP so far, but one small gripe with the sound balance: when you talk, you overpower the music; but you never stop talking for more than two or three seconds. (which makes your "oh this is a nice song" comments a little frustrating)

Agreeing with this. I love "Jazzin' Them Nazis" the best out of all the songs in wolf3d, but I could barely hear it the whole time.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

cbx posted:

If you guys are looking for older co-commentators, I'm in my 30s, and I used to build computers to keep up with the id games. Was even a Quake 2 player on MSN's The Zone multiplayer arena. I'll have some free time coming up this week.

If you're interested, you can contact me on Skype. (Temin Dump). We have a pretty rigid recording schedule though. We usually record Thursdays between 4:00 P.M. and 9:00 P.M. Pacific Time. Also, we're quite a few videos ahead of the update schedule, so it's best to keep that in mind if you're interested in a specific game/wad. I suppose I'll have to be a bit more transparent with the things we're recording now though.

Crembo posted:

Excellent LP so far, but one small gripe with the sound balance: when you talk, you overpower the music; but you never stop talking for more than two or three seconds. (which makes your "oh this is a nice song" comments a little frustrating)

Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, I've been deleting the raw footage for my videos as they get uploaded, because they're freaking huge, so I won't be able to re-upload the videos that are already out with better sound balance. I will keep this in mind moving forward though. I was just telling Red how I don't exactly have an ear for audio editing, so it's really a learning experience for me. I'll be sure to do better in the future!

KennyMan666
May 27, 2010

The Saga

THE BAR posted:

I can just imagine Hitler sitting down for his Kruppflakes, raging over the lack of milk.
You gave me an idea, and one thing led to another. Kind of counts as LP fanart as it bridges the gap between the Nocturnal missions and the first three episodes, and it wouldn't have happened if you hadn't started calling the officers milkmen.

KennyMan666 fucked around with this message at 21:18 on May 21, 2016

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

That was beautiful

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

KennyMan666 posted:

You gave me an idea, and one thing led to another. Kind of counts as LP fanart as it bridges the gap between the Nocturnal missions and the first three episodes, and it wouldn't have happened if you hadn't started calling the officers milkmen.
:allears: Excellent work.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

KennyMan666 posted:

You gave me an idea, and one thing led to another. Kind of counts as LP fanart as it bridges the gap between the Nocturnal missions and the first three episodes, and it wouldn't have happened if you hadn't started calling the officers milkmen.

Welp, that may be my favorite version of that scene yet. That "I hate juice" stinger at the end was just perfect. :D

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

KennyMan666
May 27, 2010

The Saga

Also, I actually have the Spear of Destiny big box. Bought it for super cheap at some point. When looking now the floppies aren't actually in the box so they're probs in a floppy case at my parent's place, but the box and manual are here... as well as a "warranty registration" card you apparently were meant to mail to FormGen. I can snap some pictures if wanted.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Part 2 of SOD is ready to go
In case you were wondering what side games are coming up, we spoil them to no end in this one.

KennyMan666 posted:

You gave me an idea, and one thing led to another. Kind of counts as LP fanart as it bridges the gap between the Nocturnal missions and the first three episodes, and it wouldn't have happened if you hadn't started calling the officers milkmen.
Oh, my goodness. This is wonderful.

KennyMan666 posted:

Also, I actually have the Spear of Destiny big box. Bought it for super cheap at some point. When looking now the floppies aren't actually in the box so they're probs in a floppy case at my parent's place, but the box and manual are here... as well as a "warranty registration" card you apparently were meant to mail to FormGen. I can snap some pictures if wanted.

Well I'm interested at least.

Gloomy Rube
Mar 4, 2008



Temin_Dump posted:

Part 2 of SOD is ready to go
In case you were wondering what side games are coming up, we spoil them to no end in this one.


Can't wait until you go through Super 3d Noah's Ark! :v:

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Looking forward to Catacombs 3D. I played the crap out of that as a kid. Also if you think wolf 3D gives you motion sickness you should try Blake Stone. It's got a lot of content for this generation of shooters but something about the way they scroll the movement is just horrible.

McKilligan
May 13, 2007

Acey Deezy
This game is so loving good. I've only just got back from hell so I'm not sure how far I am, but I love that basically the answer to increased difficulty is 'GET ANGRIER KILL FASTER'. Murkin' demons at breakneck speeds is the best gamn feeling, and I was physically aroused when I unlocked the minigun's turret mode.

Thyrork
Apr 21, 2010

"COME PLAY MECHS M'LANCER."

Or at least use Retrograde Mini's to make cool mechs and fantasy stuff.

:awesomelon:
Slippery Tilde

McKilligan posted:

This game is so loving good. I've only just got back from hell so I'm not sure how far I am, but I love that basically the answer to increased difficulty is 'GET ANGRIER KILL FASTER'. Murkin' demons at breakneck speeds is the best gamn feeling, and I was physically aroused when I unlocked the minigun's turret mode.

Wrong thread pal, but doom 4 is a good thrill I agree. :black101:

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

With any luck, by the time this thread gets to Doom 4 then an expansion akin to Wolfenstein: The Old Blood or even Quake 5 will be out.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Part 3 is live!

Mr. Fortitude posted:

With any luck, by the time this thread gets to Doom 4 then an expansion akin to Wolfenstein: The Old Blood or even Quake 5 will be out.

God, that would be awesome. I honestly hope that happens.



Also, anyone who would like to join us should check The Master List to see what videos we have ready to record, in case you have something specific you want to be on.

Rushputin
Jul 19, 2007
Intense, but quick to finish
I'm not sure if those wads after SoD expansions are a subdivision of that, if not, that would be my last chance to jump in as the resident Jerry for the originals.

I wouldn't mind some other DOS game, but definitely remind me before you go into the various Wolfenstein reboots.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Right, I suppose I should tweak the formatting on that, because the wads are definitely their own thing. But yeah, I'll drop you a message when we have the rest of the wolf stuff ready to go for sure.

Thyrork
Apr 21, 2010

"COME PLAY MECHS M'LANCER."

Or at least use Retrograde Mini's to make cool mechs and fantasy stuff.

:awesomelon:
Slippery Tilde
Huh. Wonder if I can find some interesting trivia on Strife and join you for that one. That game is my jam. The anachronistic setting, the rifle and shield bearing guards. The shielded castles and Blackbird being legit awesome. :allears:

E: Yeah, hit me up if you want a brit on your crew for Strife. If anything else, it gives me an excuse to replay it. :haw: Timezones might be a pain 'tho!

Thyrork fucked around with this message at 19:44 on May 27, 2016

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

So here's something I'm interesting in contributing in

I've been looking for an excuse to start doing Doom maps, and this could also be part of a Doom Builder special for the LP.
It's the DUMP(No relation) -- the Doom Upstart Modding Project part 3. It's an invitation for new people to Doom mapping to contribute.
I'm not necessarily an upstart myself, but I am really amateur when it comes to making maps, so I think I'd like to participate.
I guess I'm also checking to see if anyone else in the thread would be interested in participating in this.

Thyrork posted:

E: Yeah, hit me up if you want a brit on your crew for Strife. If anything else, it gives me an excuse to replay it. :haw: Timezones might be a pain 'tho!

I would be delighted. The more the merrier! I'm sure we can work around the time zone issue.

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

Seeing how far ahead you are you could always bump it up to 3 updates a week :parrot:

No? Oh well.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Spudd posted:

Seeing how far ahead you are you could always bump it up to 3 updates a week :parrot:

No? Oh well.

Honestly, I am considering this. Maybe I'll bump it up for the side games/doom wads

Skippy Granola
Sep 3, 2011

It's not what it looks like.
At this rate you'll be up to two updates a day for Rage

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Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

The end of SOD.
We've got a few side games coming up before Doom now, But the release schedule for those will be much faster. Expect the next update tomorrow!

Skippy Granola posted:

At this rate you'll be up to two updates a day for Rage

Good god, I hope not.

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