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beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004



I have decided I am not done with this game and I will go for the platinum trophy...mostly cause I do honestly think the speedrun chieve sounds really fun to do. I'll just need to think of a money route so I can afford the phoenix spear and get it an upgrade or two immediately into act 2

Also just googled around for a bit and found this and whoa this looks drat useful https://videochums.com/extras/nier-weapon-upgrade-materials-calculator tho I'm considering just using a trainer to instantly give me all of the upgrade mats cause it'd be one thing if this took a couple hours I could knock out in an afternoon, but an additional possible 10-20 hour grind for one achievement that's focused on spending hours grinding tons of very low % items is pretty hard to justify for a single player game

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MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.




The sad Yonah laters kind of make me very mad at Nier. Spend time with your sister goddammit!

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004





beep by grandpa posted:

I have decided I am not done with this game and I will go for the platinum trophy...mostly cause I do honestly think the speedrun chieve sounds really fun to do. I'll just need to think of a money route so I can afford the phoenix spear and get it an upgrade or two immediately into act 2

You can finish ending A in 5-6 hours without ever upgrading a weapon, or even buying a new weapon.

The free Automata DLC swords are more than good enough.

Doctor Nutt
Apr 12, 2007

"Even now, Elisabeth is putting her miraculous new body through its paces." -Clovis Bray




Also there's no difficulty restrictions at all so if you hit a roadblock you can just turn it down as far as you want with assists if needed. I played the whole game on easy with the game's ai handling most of my magic usage and it felt pretty wild. Half the time during combat I had no clue what the hell was even happening, but stuff died.

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002



Got ending A... the real Dark Souls Nier Replicant begins now

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin.

During Part 1 I was thinking "these side quests are a little annoying but not that bad, I don't get what the big deal is" but now in Part 2 this dude near the pigs is like "give me 10 titanium alloys (and a bunch of other poo poo)" and lol no. This other side quest is also sending me back into the Lost Shrine, which is my least favorite zone (but this quest is unfortunately apparently necessary to get all weapons).

Question - how do words on Evade/Guard work? Do they just apply all the time? Someone mentioned that the words on weapons/magic that buff things like items/XP only apply if that weapon/magic kills enemies, but that logic doesn't seem like it can apply to evading/guarding.

Doctor Nutt
Apr 12, 2007

"Even now, Elisabeth is putting her miraculous new body through its paces." -Clovis Bray




Ytlaya posted:

During Part 1 I was thinking "these side quests are a little annoying but not that bad, I don't get what the big deal is" but now in Part 2 this dude near the pigs is like "give me 10 titanium alloys (and a bunch of other poo poo)" and lol no. This other side quest is also sending me back into the Lost Shrine, which is my least favorite zone (but this quest is unfortunately apparently necessary to get all weapons).

Question - how do words on Evade/Guard work? Do they just apply all the time? Someone mentioned that the words on weapons/magic that buff things like items/XP only apply if that weapon/magic kills enemies, but that logic doesn't seem like it can apply to evading/guarding.

Those usually provide an entirely different effect on evading/guarding, and you can see what it is by applying them in the word edit. Sometimes they add effects like stun/etc

Sharkitten
Jan 14, 2010



I really don't think any of the quests are that bad with the possible exception of Package Delivery 3 but you can cheese that one with the desert warps

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002



The only quest I found truly annoying was the moonflower seed one because it requires waiting real life time even with timezone manipulation.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin.

Doctor Nutt posted:

Those usually provide an entirely different effect on evading/guarding, and you can see what it is by applying them in the word edit. Sometimes they add effects like stun/etc

A lot of them provide stuff like a bonus to "physical strength" or (I believe) item/xp rate. It's not clear how that would be connected to blocking/dodging.

Sharkitten posted:

I really don't think any of the quests are that bad with the possible exception of Package Delivery 3 but you can cheese that one with the desert warps

It takes a while to go through the Junkyard, and it seems like you have to do that at least a few times (and that's if you're not planning on upgrading many weapons). And Lost Shrine also takes a while to navigate (unless this quest's item is just located near the beginning).

Traveling between the cities never bothered me much, though. It's very fast, even before the boat, to get from Nier's village to Seafront. Getting to Junkyard is pretty annoying, though; unless I'm missing something, you always have to climb all those ladders in the Northern Plains.

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002



Ytlaya posted:

A lot of them provide stuff like a bonus to "physical strength" or (I believe) item/xp rate. It's not clear how that would be connected to blocking/dodging.

If you put one of those item/XP words on evade/block you can see on the screen it just doesn’t apply that effect

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.





Any quest that requires you to grind random drops is bad by design, even if it doesn't take that long in practice.

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004



There's a new quest I just found randomly even loooong after doing 100% of sidequests. Not sure if it's new to 1.22 or not but in Part 2 there's a guy on the east side of the northern plains who gives you a quest to run down sheep like a psychopath from a boar and it's repeatable indefinitely for money. Sheep don't actually respawn ever again in part 2 so if this is new it could be to remedy the kill 100 sheep achievement, maybe

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004





beep by grandpa posted:

There's a new quest I just found randomly even loooong after doing 100% of sidequests. Not sure if it's new to 1.22 or not but in Part 2 there's a guy on the east side of the northern plains who gives you a quest to run down sheep like a psychopath from a boar and it's repeatable indefinitely for money. Sheep don't actually respawn ever again in part 2 so if this is new it could be to remedy the kill 100 sheep achievement, maybe

It was included in the DLC for the original.

I just did the sheep killing on my way to (ending spoilers) ending E instead.

Doctor Nutt
Apr 12, 2007

"Even now, Elisabeth is putting her miraculous new body through its paces." -Clovis Bray




beep by grandpa posted:

There's a new quest I just found randomly even loooong after doing 100% of sidequests. Not sure if it's new to 1.22 or not but in Part 2 there's a guy on the east side of the northern plains who gives you a quest to run down sheep like a psychopath from a boar and it's repeatable indefinitely for money. Sheep don't actually respawn ever again in part 2 so if this is new it could be to remedy the kill 100 sheep achievement, maybe

The juxtaposition of the epic music with the absurdity of the quest was honestly one of the funniest god drat things I've seen in this game. Maybe it's the but I did it over and over and was laughing my rear end off the whole time. Once you start getting good with patterns it's basically pac man but you're just loving obliterating sheep with your gigantic wild boar.

petcarcharodon
Jun 25, 2013


It counted for sheep murder achievement in the original DLC but now doesn't for some reason.

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beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004



petcarcharodon posted:

It counted for sheep murder achievement in the original DLC but now doesn't for some reason.

Lol wow

At least with the sheep chieve being permanently missable it would take no more than 10min to start a new game and get to the north plains and start slaughtering until it pops. You wouldnt even need to save the game so you could name yourself BigBadWolf >:]

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