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Who will win the title fights?
This poll is closed.
JBJ and Mighty Mouse 42 76.36%
OSP and Mighty Mouse 7 12.73%
JBJ and Cejudo 2 3.64%
OSP and Cejudo 4 7.27%
Total: 55 votes
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Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrY9eHkXTa4
'Cause all I ever have,
Redemption songs,
Redemption songs.


Welcome, friends, to the GDT for UFC 196: Cormier vs. Jones vs. Saint Preux, 10 p.m. ET April 23 only on PPV! Because this is a PPV, please do not post streams or we will all be very disappointed in your poor posting performance.

With many an MMA fan’s origins in following the sport stemming from professional wrestling, it’s no wonder we’re all such suckers for a good redemption story. Thankfully, this stellar card should bring plenty of redemption angles our way. Let’s find out more about them!

:siren: For the Light Heavyweight Interim Title :siren:


Jon “Bones” Jones

vs.


Ovince “pantomining cunnalingus is a black fraternity thing and you wouldn’t understand” Saint Preux

Jon Jones understands the power of redemption. After all, he is on his fifth or sixth one now. He understands now that cheating on his children’s mother 12-6 elbows drunk driving refusing to fight a middleweight off the couch and causing undercard fighters to miss their rent payments as a result poking people in the eyes harassing gay Swedes on Instagram brawling at press conferences threatening to murder your opponent when you think cameras aren’t rolling and then claiming you didn’t mean it on the air doing cocaine driving while suspended and on probation for serious offenses running a red light, hitting and injuring a pregnant woman, fleeing the scene of the crime, returning only to grab cash and leaving your drugs and a poo poo-load of condoms and then hiding from the police conveniently long enough to detox before turning yourself in is wrong. Losing the belt was devastating for him and that’s really made an impression on him, so with the help of his personal lord and savior Jesus Christ, he has really matured and is ready to not make that mistake again. So on this day in December 2009 May 2012 September 2012 April 2014 September 2014 January 2015 April 2016, Jones is a new man, ready to move forward and be a true Christian role model for the youths.

Ovince Saint Preux has a big opportunity, filling in for current champ Daniel “Cool Dad” Cormier on short notice. A lot of goons like to bury him as boring, and I think that’s a little unfair, but the boring fights he does have are so catastrophically boring that I can’t blame them for having that overall impression. Can he redeem his reputation as a finisher and cool guy to watch by surprising everyone and taking it to the former champ? He sure hopes so.

:siren: For the Flyweight Title :siren:


Demetrious “Mighty Mouse” Johnson (c)

vs.


Henry “the Third Person” Cejudo

Professional Twitch Streamer Mighty Mouse Johnson also happens to be probably the best fighter in the entire world. Undefeated since a close loss to then-and-now 135-pound Dominick Cruz, Mighty Mouse’s striking, wrestling, speed, timing and cardio have all looked impeccable, winning almost every round, breaking the same submission record twice and cleaning out his division in that time. With an uninterrupted win streak that long, he hopes to have collected enough souls to redeem them after this card and level up his guy in Dark Souls 3™ out now on Microsoft XBox One.

At just 29 years old, Henry Cejudo is some much-needed fresh blood in the flyweight division that has been dominated by a single champ for almost its entire existence. The youngest American wrestler to earn Olympic gold, Cejudo carries a lot of clout and pressure each time he enters the Octagon. Despite this background, most of his UFC fights have been contested on the feet, where he has showcased his Shieldsesque Improved Kickboxing. The undefeated prospect has also struggled with his weight cuts throughout his career, oftentimes simply dropping out of fights because he decided he couldn’t make weight in time. Will he redeem himself on the scale Friday night? Stay tuned.

Lightweight


Anthony “Showtime” Pettis

vs.


Edson Barboza

Like with our main event, Anthony Pettis is a former champ who has fallen from grace in the eyes of his fans and Wheaties enthusiasts. After riding a huge wave of excitement from his flashy, unorthodox kicking game, Pettis is on the first losing streak of his career, after losing his belt in a wrestlefucking to current champ Rafael dos Anjos and then being held against the fence but the smaller but game Eddie Alvarez.Has Pettis’ move from Rufousport to Jackson-Winklejohn shored up his defensive wrestling game to finally dictate the pace of the fight and redeem himself in the eyes of his fans? Let’s find out as he fights a Brazilian kickboxer.

In the long-ago days of 2012, before Rousey and McGregor, Edson Barboza seemed to have the trappings of a media darling. His huge head kick KO over Terry Etim earned him a spot on Sports Illustrated’s annual moments of the year poll, and the undefeated rising star looked to be on the fast track for a title fight. He was then TKO’d by Jamie Varner, and has since yet to go on as big of a streak. Most of his wins are exciting, but he’s been put away by Cerrone and Tony Ferguson and outpointed by Michael Johnson. The Brazilian hopes to get back in the win column with his own fancy kicks, recovering his reputation as a lightweight contender.

Middleweight


Robert Whittaker

vs.


Rafael Natal

Robert Whittaker may well have already begun his redemption story. The TUF Smashes welterweight winner came off as at least somewhat annoying on the show, but the young gun came out of the gate strong and put away noted awful tragic footnote in TUF history Colton Smith, earning instant admiration. He then went on a two-fight skid, losing to Court McGee and being finished by welterweight contender Stephen Thompson, who at the time seemed cool but unproven. Fans had all but given up on him, but he eventually moved up to middleweight and went on a tear, wrecking Clint Hester and Brad Tavares and then easily handling Uriah Hall. He is certainly someone to watch, and at 25 has seemingly limitless potential ahead of him.

Can Rafael Natal redeem himself in my eyes for first tricking me into thinking he was a cool and good fighter by subbing Sean Spencer at my first live-and-in-person card, and then later tricking me into thinking Tim Kennedy was a cool and good fighter for knocking him the gently caress out? No. No he cannot.

Featherweight


Yair Rodríguez

Vs.


Andre “Touchy” Fili

The inaugural TUF Latin America featherweight winner, Yair Rodriguez seeks redemption as a fighter who you you can remember despite having seen fight on several occasions.

One of the last Team Alpha Male guys left, Touchy Fili seeks to redeem these Hot Topic gift cards he got for his birthday.

OTHER poo poo TO WATCH

Fox Sports 1 prelims, 8 p.m. ET
Flyweight Sergio Pettis vs. Chris Kelades
Welterweight Danny Roberts vs. Dominique Steele
Women's Strawweight Carla Esparza vs. Juliana Lima
Lightweight Glaico França vs. James Vick

Fight Pass Prelims, 6:30 p.m.
Heavyweight Walt Harris vs. Cody East
Light Heavyweight Marcos Rogério de Lima vs. Clint Hester
Lightweight Efrain Escudero vs. Kevin Lee

Official Weigh-Ins, 7 p.m. ET Today, April 22
http://www.ufc.com/media/ufc-197-official-weigh-in

OFFICIAL MMA SNACK RATING: Alton Brown’s Angel Food cake


Ingredients
1 3/4 cups sugar
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 cup cake flour, sifted
12 egg whites (the closer to room temperature the better)
1/3 cup warm water
1 teaspoon orange extract, or extract of your choice
1 1/2 teaspoons cream of tartar

Directions
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
In a food processor spin sugar about 2 minutes until it is superfine. Sift half of the sugar with the salt the cake flour, setting the remaining sugar aside.
In a large bowl, use a balloon whisk to thoroughly combine egg whites, water, orange extract, and cream of tartar. After 2 minutes, switch to a hand mixer. Slowly sift the reserved sugar, beating continuously at medium speed. Once you have achieved medium peaks, sift enough of the flour mixture in to dust the top of the foam. Using a spatula fold in gently. Continue until all of the flour mixture is incorporated.
Carefully spoon mixture into an ungreased tube pan. Bake for 35 minutes before checking for doneness with a wooden skewer. (When inserted halfway between the inner and outer wall, the skewer should come out dry).
Cool upside down on cooling rack for at least an hour before removing from pan.
Cook's Note: Since they're easier to separate use the freshest eggs you can get.

Read more at: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/angel-food-cake-recipe.html?oc=linkback

And don't forget to make your picks in Goonweight!

Bluedeanie fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Apr 22, 2016

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EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Wheaties enthusiasts are a core demographic!

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
i'm gonna try OSP's booty eating technique tonight guys, wish me luck.

coronaball
Feb 6, 2005

You're finished, pork-o-nazi!
I found out I have to go to Vegas tomorrow, and I'm staying at MGM. Will they have the event showing in the sportsbook? I've never been in Vegas during a PPV, much less been at the same hotel where one is going on.

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


I don't like jon jones or atom

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

Carla Esparza has got to be the first former champion fighting on a prelim for their first fight after the title loss, right?

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009
Pantera has cool fights.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

how long till weigh in times?

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009

BlindSite posted:

how long till weigh in times?

Everyone has weighed in already.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

aw, stupid time difference

Charles Gnarwin
Jul 31, 2014

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...


coronaball posted:

I found out I have to go to Vegas tomorrow, and I'm staying at MGM. Will they have the event showing in the sportsbook? I've never been in Vegas during a PPV, much less been at the same hotel where one is going on.

Follow Dana on Twitter and see if he gives free tickets away at some point to tonight or tomorrow.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Daniel Cormier is going to lose

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Do the people who voted for Cejudo and OSP think they will win or just want them to? If you think they will win, how come? Genuinely interested!

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

EmmyOk posted:

Do the people who voted for Cejudo and OSP think they will win or just want them to? If you think they will win, how come? Genuinely interested!

It's currently at 0 votes.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

I mean the two people who think OSP will beat JBJ and the one who thinks Cejudo will beat DJ.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Lid posted:

It's currently at 0 votes.

But one person has voted for Cejudo and two people have voted for OSP.

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
I believe OSP may win because the MMA gods clearly hate the UFC right now.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

:qq:He expended too much energy and got tired:qq:

I'M NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS
Jones will win easily and bring order to mma

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



I believe OSP will do a lot better than people around here think he will for a range of about two-thirds of a round to a round and a half, at which point he'll fail to KO Jones and tire out, and Jones will take over and do what everyone is expecting him to do.

Lloyd Boner
Oct 11, 2009

Yes officer, my name is Victoria Sonnen...berg
Yeah, I think OSP will lose but look surprisingly good early on. I just hope Mighty Mouse decimates Cejudo because gently caress Henry Cejudo.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Really wishing Cejudo had a couple more fights under his belt and also fights that I could remember because they were largely boring at the time or I was very drunk.

Maybe if there is a god OSP won't look like total poo poo and somehow make me think LHW division has hope. The other fights seem pretty neat though and I'm really looking forward to Pettis and Barboza. A little part of me thinks Barboza might put Pettis down but both guys are pretty drat good.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


OSP please save us

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(
im not going to watch it

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(

Dangersim posted:

Jones will win easily and bring order to mma

Dude

manyak
Jan 26, 2006
OSP recently lost very decisively to Texiera and Ryan bader so I dont know how him beating Jones would suddenly make the division better, unless better means back when a few very flawed guys would all trade the belt around rock paper scissors style for 1 fight at a time

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(

manyak posted:

OSP recently lost very decisively to Texiera and Ryan bader so I dont know how him beating Jones would suddenly make the division better, unless better means back when a few very flawed guys would all trade the belt around rock paper scissors style for 1 fight at a time

Agree

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


manyak posted:

OSP recently lost very decisively to Texiera and Ryan bader so I dont know how him beating Jones would suddenly make the division better, unless better means back when a few very flawed guys would all trade the belt around rock paper scissors style for 1 fight at a time

I'm fine with a smaller heavyweight division

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(
I liked it when Machida was champ but overall I like the unassailable LHW champ. Ill give jones that he's matched chuck in that.

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(
I think I'm ready to say Jones at his best was/is probably a little better than Chuck at his best. my opinion of chuck is he deteriorated a little bit expecting/chasing KOs right before his title reign began. but I think even really cautious chuck mightve lost a decision getting kicked at by jones. on the other hand I think he would have got a knock down. So maybe he would've won because chuck couldnt get a 5 round fight in his prime.

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.
Chuck woulda hosed him up.

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(

Bubba Smith posted:

Chuck woulda hosed him up.

Agree

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(

Bundt Cake posted:

I think I'm ready to say Jones at his best was/is probably a little better than Chuck at his best. my opinion of chuck is he deteriorated a little bit expecting/chasing KOs right before his title reign began. but I think even really cautious chuck mightve lost a decision getting kicked at by jones. on the other hand I think he would have got a knock down. So maybe he would've won because chuck couldnt get a 5 round fight in his prime.

stfu

Electric Lady
Mar 21, 2010

To be victorious
you must find glory
in the little things
I want DJ to come out dressed as his Dark Souls III character before he mercs Cejudo.


Only in my dreams, unfortunately. :sigh:

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Cejudo normally comes out dressed as a ridiculous and depressing character; Henry Cejudo.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005
Barboza/Pettis is by far the most interesting fight on the card for me, because although Barboza's chin isn't great, his offense both in kicks and punching is way better than Pettis so I feel like he should really embarass him, but Pettis is also really good at setting up crazy kicking combinations so he could always hurt Barboza. It should be a really fun match.

Chuck/Jones is an interesting question. At this point Jones has cleaned out his division just as well as Chuck did. On a head to head basis Chuck is actually a really bad matchup for Jones, but who knows how they would have actually matched up in their respective primes. I tend to think Chuck would have come out on top because of the way he was able to fight in his prime, but it's one of those unanswerable questions.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

fatherdog posted:

Barboza/Pettis is by far the most interesting fight on the card for me, because although Barboza's chin isn't great, his offense both in kicks and punching is way better than Pettis so I feel like he should really embarass him, but Pettis is also really good at setting up crazy kicking combinations so he could always hurt Barboza. It should be a really fun match.

Agreed. It's top-tier matchmaking. I wonder what happens to Pettis if he drops three in a row.

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

EA UFC 2 is doing a promotion for UFC 197 that centers entirely around how quickly Jones will murder OSP.

fatherdog posted:

Chuck/Jones is an interesting question. At this point Jones has cleaned out his division just as well as Chuck did. On a head to head basis Chuck is actually a really bad matchup for Jones, but who knows how they would have actually matched up in their respective primes. I tend to think Chuck would have come out on top because of the way he was able to fight in his prime, but it's one of those unanswerable questions.

The wrestling/counterwrestling/counterpunching thing has always made Liddell/Jones an interesting thought experiment for me, but the point I always wind up hinging on is the reach; I'm pretty sure the only guy Chuck fought in his career he didn't have the reach advantage on was Overeem, and Overeem gave him hell until he remembered it was 2003 and crumpling like a wet paper bag was hip and cool. Fighting against the Jon Jones reach advantage and gas tank always seemed like a problem for Liddell's style to me.

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
Last embedded is up. These embeddeds have really made me want to see Henry Cejudo get his rear end beat in spectacular fashion. https://youtu.be/P7rFWqBQ0ok

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


We got to meet MMMMMDJ last night, he's super cool. If I was not already a fan of his, I would be now. We're heading down to the arena in a few, totally excited for this.

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Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..

kensei posted:

We got to meet MMMMMDJ last night, he's super cool. If I was not already a fan of his, I would be now. We're heading down to the arena in a few, totally excited for this.

Was this after he was done feeding the homeless on the strip. Man, the dudes a class act all around.

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