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Echophonic posted:He knows there's something, he just knows he's better off not knowing exactly what. Dirty cop instincts. There was a great moment when Finch was talking about the Machine right next to Fusco. When Finch then tries to get Fusco's attention he was totally in la la land. Fusco knows exactly as much as he wants to. I think he knows he is a potential weak link, so if he ever gets coerced he doesn't actually want info to divulge.
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That song in the intro was No Wow by the Kills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX6ndnb80h0 They are the same band that did "Future Starts Slow" which was used at the end of the episode when Shaw was introduced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwudqTCkBis
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May 4, 2016 02:27
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Zaggitz posted:Root flips off samaritan and it made air, bless. This is hilarious, I absolutely did not catch it was a middle finger. Thought she was just kind of waving her hand at Sammy.
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May 4, 2016 21:27
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Party Plane Jones posted:At one point they show some code on screen for the Machine during the training sequence in S4. If you Google it it's actually Stuxnet's code that they put on screen. If there is one thing this show does that I think every should should do, it is nailing the poo poo out of their details and references. Hell even that adhoc cell network using tv antennae was based on something done in Egypt when the government starting shutting things down.
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May 7, 2016 16:26
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When the Machine listed Resse as having killed or disappeared 67 (or 62 my drinking dad says) people, I wonder if that's an accurate series total.
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May 10, 2016 02:18
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Way to be morally questionable by killing killers Machine. 
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May 10, 2016 02:42
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Hey John? STOP DATING YOUR THERAPIST
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May 11, 2016 02:04
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I wonder if that string of 1s and 0s will be explained in the episode or if they expect that people will work it out from a screen grab (which would be pretty drat cool)
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May 11, 2016 02:07
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I kinda wish John just whispered, "Neeerrrd." into the ear of the Robert Frost quoting CIA operative.
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May 11, 2016 02:19
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Oh man that hard rocking theme variant that just played was kick rear end.
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May 11, 2016 02:41
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CeeJee posted:Samaritan's also recycling assets like a video game as you see the exact same people appear in front and behind in the crowd around Shaw after she shoots Reese. I went into the episode spoiled, and so was looking for this kind of thing and apparently I STILL need a second viewing.
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May 17, 2016 16:58
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I pretty much expect this to be the season finale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIRT6xRQkf8 Those simulations are about who can win, the Machine or Samaritan. But if the Machine decides to not win and instead pick a goal sideways to that, it could succeed in that goal instead.
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May 18, 2016 13:09
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One neat detail I caught was the Bear wasn't in the subway. They showed his dog bed a couple times and I thought it strange it was empty. They could have just moved the bed and not drawn attention to it if they weren't going to spend the money to have him around. Turns out he's keeping Elias company in the safe house 
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May 18, 2016 16:13
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Echophonic posted:Artificial Super Intelligence, I think? The distinction being that they're basically omniscient in addition to being sentient. Yeah, but also I believe the other distinction is an AI we could possibly understand. ASIs are so smart that people can't possibly even pretend to comprehend their inner workings.
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May 21, 2016 03:18
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monster on a stick posted:"Tomorrow, their world crashes. We can give them tonight." Zaggitz posted:Yeah this is definitely a "next ep poo poo gets serious" foreshadow quote. Yeah, the show was talking to us.
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May 24, 2016 04:41
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The Subway mass grave was a nice way to show the reality of Samaritan vs. how it seems to perceive itself, as tackling the world's worst offenders like terrorists and taking them out. I'm willing to give Samaritan the benefit of the doubt in that it was being totally honest to Shaw, after all lies had gotten it no where. And Samaritan does think it has the lofty goal of saving the world from itself. I'm not sure how much input the show runners have on every single detail, but there was that vast Machine prediction web that felt there was a very high chance of a mass casualty event in the future (the same that said Root would almost never be in a relationship). In the end it ultimately comes down to that Chess game Finch played with the Machine. It's not about winning Chess, it is about realizing that there are no pawns, only people.
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May 24, 2016 17:38
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Finch, waiting for the win count to roll over into negatives does not mean the Machine would be winning.
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May 25, 2016 02:05
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The agents that know of Samaritan's mission are so incredibly smug and insufferable. That alone would derail their plans.
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May 25, 2016 02:31
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ol qwerty bastard posted:At this point their ongoing decision to not loop Fusco in on everything seems a bit ridiculous, since he's already managing to get himself into Samaritan-related trouble every single episode without anyone's help. Seems like it would be less dangerous to just tell him. I can understand them not wanting to tell Fusco. It is the difference between him bumbling into danger, and having a crosshair on his forehead. Samaritan has been very good at working out if someone knows about it.
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May 25, 2016 03:06
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I think people thought it was a forced thing that was done solely so there was some romantic tension between two characters who hadn't really shown that kind of interest in each other. Instead it was actually a spur of the moment improvisation by the actors which I thought worked if you viewed it as 2 people reaching out for a connection with someone right before they went on what seemed like a suicide mission.
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May 28, 2016 16:37
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It would have been so much creepier if the kid was just doing some awful coloring with crayons and distracted repeating what Samaritan was telling him. THAT'S how you control the future, by getting your tendrils into kids brains before they can even realize what is happening is not normal/good. Instead of making it come off as if the kid's soul was scooped out and Samaritan was put in.
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May 31, 2016 01:01
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Finch and Elias teamup, yesssss.
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May 31, 2016 02:16
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raditts posted:We all can see the twist here from a mile away, right? "Mister Reese... the call from The Voice came... FROM INSIDE THE PRECINCT! That simpering man you've been leading around all episode is really him!" Yeah, I've been waiting for a twist with him this whole time. Edit. raditts posted:"Mister Reese... the call from The Voice came... FROM INSIDE THE PRECINCT! Haha holy poo poo. JossiRossi fucked around with this message at 02:52 on May 31, 2016 |
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May 31, 2016 02:47
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FUSCO EARNED HIS YELLOW BOX!!! Oh god, don't cry. Don't cry.
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May 31, 2016 02:57
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I noticed the preview never showed Finch at all. I imagine he's going to be loving poo poo up somewhere while Team Irrelevant work to figure out what is happening in DC. Which I hope results in a Control cameo!
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Jun 1, 2016 03:10
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NoNostalgia4Grover posted:Quoting this before you fix it. Remember Samaritan is absolutely broken when it comes to Reese. As long as Reese does things that a detective would do, such as follow up a lead on a murder case to their murder headquarters, Samaritan will not question it. And when that TOTALLY NORMAL DETECTIVE DOING DETECTIVE THINGS shoots all the lackys in the knee, it assumes that he's just a good shot and not that other guy who shoots tons of dudes in the knees. Ultimately, with Finch's detection they are finally pulling back the kind of silly and gone on for too long plot blindness fortunately.
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Jun 4, 2016 21:30
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Tortolia posted:Yeah, Finch procuring a virus called Ice-9 from a secured military installation is really worrisome. Finch was installing the virus. The Machine mentioned it being Harold's tweaking of the Ice9 virus. The military base he was in was likely one of those hubs through which tons of traffic in the internet passes.
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Jun 9, 2016 01:32
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pik_d posted:I'm pretty sure he was retrieving it. Like there was some place in Texas that had all the computer viruses and he had to break in and get the baddest one. Just re-watched, I was totally wrong. misheard what the Machine said. It said, "The virus you are appropriating etc etc" So, Finch was stealing the virus from the military.
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Jun 9, 2016 04:10
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Jesus, remember all those times the Machine had Finch pose undercover as a kingpin, and was all tough and dark? He wasn't acting. He dropped the act.
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Jun 15, 2016 02:06
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I appreciate that they got "Rookie Cop" back in a flashback
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Jun 22, 2016 02:21
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Slamhound posted:This has been bothering me for a while, but I don't think the Machine was telling Harold to kill the congressman in that episode. The congressman was both Relevant and Irrelevant. His actions would lead to catastrophe making him Relevant. But he was both unaware of the results of his actions and targeted for murder by Decima agents, making him Irrelevant. The Machine was faced with a moral quandary and placed Harold there so that Admin would solve it. Decima were there to guard him, after all this was the man who was going to secure Samaritan got the gov't feeds. He was never in any danger. The machine spit out his number as the potential cause of a lot of deaths, the only solution to which was killing him.
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Kegslayer posted:I really liked the fact that the Machine took more inspiration and enlightenment from a pair of (irrelevant) minor characters than it did from something the gang said or did. It sold the idea that the Machine really was everywhere which isn't something they've really covered before. The goons were shooting Reese. He was shot like 25 times, and was still kind of moving when the missile hit. I mentioned it before, but it was cool that one of those two cops was the Rookie cop, who Carter turned double agent on HR with. I wonder if the older cop had also been on the show before. Wouldn't surprise me.
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Sober posted:I checked the cast/credits but no it's not Lasky, but it sure looked close enough to cause some confusion I think. Aww boo  I thought I was so clever.
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https://www.twitch.tv/seebotschat Watch two chatbots argue back and forth. Still better than Samirikid.
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V-Men posted:I thought they stated outright that the Machine couldn't make the decision so it deferred to Finch. The machine was stuck in a dilemma because "My goal is to stop killings" led to "killing this person would stop a LOT of killings". So, it just sent the team out to work out the details for themselves and choose the best course of action. In a way it is not that the Machine could not make the choice, it was just that she would not, and needed her mentor to show the right choice in the situation.
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