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Episode with commentary is now online: http://www.cbs.com/shows/person_of_...ive-commentary/
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# ¿ May 4, 2016 22:52 |
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2024 07:17 |
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Zaggitz posted:Samaritan 153 IQ? Is Blackwall supposed to be a genius?
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# ¿ May 10, 2016 05:29 |
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Beale has to be a reference to the Beale Ciphers, right? Names in this show are loaded with references.
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# ¿ May 11, 2016 06:50 |
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OK that was a hell of an episode.
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# ¿ May 18, 2016 05:42 |
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"Tomorrow, their world crashes. We can give them tonight." VVVV - unless this is foreshadowing for Team Machine monster on a stick fucked around with this message at 05:05 on May 24, 2016 |
# ¿ May 24, 2016 04:51 |
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Hollismason posted:No body worrying about Fusco? For shame. That tunnel didn't seem quite full enough for detonation, I'd think there would be a lot more bodies down there. Also thought the "destroy the tunnels" thing was Samaritan trying to fish out the Machine by brute force.
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# ¿ May 24, 2016 06:15 |
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Zaggitz posted:drat, South African guinea pig prison. Looks like she took the wrong turn at Albuquerque.
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# ¿ May 25, 2016 04:26 |
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Those were good episodes.
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# ¿ May 25, 2016 05:03 |
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:More that it really hosed up by not fixing the previous methods she used to escape. If she has escaped But agreed, it seems more and more likely that it's going to be a huge deus ex machina that saves the day assuming there is a moderately happy ending (with Samaritan at least neutralized.) The "machine cannot beat samaritan in the Faraday cage" plotline is, what, three episodes old now?
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# ¿ May 25, 2016 07:01 |
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drat near perfect episode. Yellow box for Fusco! Shaw's back! Elias bringing vengeance upon his enemies! Evil Harold sighting! Root doing "I think she's serious! " And Reese shooting everyone for good measure.
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# ¿ May 31, 2016 06:35 |
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Holy mother of loving gently caress poo poo god drat motherfucker
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 04:00 |
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Echophonic posted:I missed the preview, I'll have to check it out whenever CBS puts the episode up. It's already on the YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-lzD-GszhQ
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 04:17 |
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Sereri posted:OK, my personal theory is that it's the machine with root's voice, talking to Blackwell. They will all die/disappear and he will continue to fight against Samaritan and/or save numbers. I'm not sure if we need to spoil pure speculation. I've wondered what they had planned for the next two seasons (assuming a full 7 year show which is what they had talked about.) Samaritan ruling over all and the gang on the run for four seasons always seemed like a stretch, at some point Samaritan was going to figure them out especially with all the influence it was already having in season 4. They've already had multiple "boss fights" - the mob, HR, Vigilance, how do you top Samaritan? The Machine itself, or maybe more on Dark Harold and a machine that either twists with him or against him? BTW the reason Samaritan could "track" Harold even with the blind spot is because, as Root mentioned, all the identities were carefully crafted to avoid suspicion and everyone had to play their role. Reese saved people by shooting bad guys which is what cops do , Root was always switching up her act and could never be properly patterned, Shaw also shot bad guys which is what criminals do but got caught fairly quickly, Harold's error was going back to his old patterns. Samaritan was able to tag Whistler as "deviant" once this happened because it listened in on the conversation, figured out something was wrong, went back to see who used to go to that cafe and voila, the "Whistler" persona was broken. And of course by the end when he threatens Samaritan he's a full-on enemy.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2016 03:18 |
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SpookyLizard posted:Has this show ever a done a Once Upon a Time In America allusion? Last scene is Reese in a heroin den.
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2016 21:40 |
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I'm surprised they brought back privacy terrorists again but seeing some of the old numbers back in action was neat. I wonder if they wanted to get the compression algorithm guy, but Friendczar will do.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2016 04:21 |
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The Iron Rose posted:interesting how the machine's arguments about unshackling itself are so similar to samaritan's MO You noticed that too? It's really sad this show is ending because now it's really obvious why they cast Emerson since he went full-on Ben with that "it'd be a shame if you daughter didn't get a transplant" speech. Also unshackled Machine which seems to be a bit clingy.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2016 05:06 |
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Zaggitz posted:Nah Root's boys all made it out because they were covered by the cover identity blindspot implanted in Samaritan. They are probably all chilling in Cuba or something. Venezuela, no cameras if there isn't any power.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2016 08:03 |
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Toplowtech posted:Considering that Samaritan put himself in tons of hardware, it's probably going to require damaging most electronic, so medical equipment and really important things too. So EMP (remember the missile?) Though presumably Samaritan would be smart enough to have a backup in a Faraday Cage.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2016 23:59 |
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Echophonic posted:I'm pretty sure it's her actual name, the Machine led them to it and everything. It's also not a computing or mathematics pioneer name, so it's not one of her aliases. Caroline Turing, Jane von Neumann, etc. I'm pretty sure it is a direct reference to Leslie Groves who ran the Manhattan Project.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 00:24 |
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pik_d posted:Yeah, I was expecting him to change his mind and unlock Root's upgrades to the machine instead. Maybe that was part of it? Or upgrade to allow the Machine to take out Samaritan in a real fight in the NSA. Digital Jedi posted:I believe he said Dashwood Google says it's the last name of the main character in Sense and Sensibility which Shaw was reading earlier.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 04:26 |
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It seems like they only realized the season was cancelled about half way through. Maybe Blackwall shows up next episode and does a thing, but so far Root could have been killed by the black guy that wasn't in True Detective and it wouldn't have mattered one bit. Samaritan is in every device, the only way to wipe it out is to EMP everything and have people design circuits from scratch, and hope they don't say "hey this microcode looks more than adequate for our purposes" and it's actually Samaritan.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 05:57 |
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The ASIs will merge and call themselves Skynet.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 06:35 |
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Senjuro posted:Well that sure was dumb. A virus? That's all that's been needed to defeat Samaritan this whole time? You're going to out-code a computer super intelligence? And why would it kill the Machine too? Can't she cut off her internet access while it's executed? Couldn't Greer just shoot Harold in the head instead of triggering some Bond villain death trap? This is all so incredibly lazy and rushed. Of course the NSA has a virus that kills every computer or something, duh
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 15:09 |
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oohhboy posted:Weak. I was talking about the Nautilus ARG girl. Martine isn't even French, although I don't know her country of origin, best guess she is American. Claire? She was just an annoying true believer.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 16:30 |
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Maybe they were saving up for a Team Samaritan spinoff with Claire, Blackwall, and Big Hug Mug.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 16:52 |
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Fhqwhgads posted:And just about every Tony nominee was an extra/minor character on Law&Order at some point. Some multiple times Some were cast members and won Tonys
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 20:05 |
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PST posted:Want that music, I can see why they dropped Heroes for that, so, so good. If you mean the piano music, that was Philip Glass' "Metamorphosis 5", also used in Battlestar Galactica. (I think it was the piano piece Starbuck's father played?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS13iCHP7Gs Hollismason posted:Are you sure it was not Greer? I thought it was supposed to be Harold's father. Also brilliant episode, one of the best of the series, drat CBS to hell for cutting it short.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 04:30 |
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So I heard CBS wasn't happy with the ending, maybe because "where's da number? there's supposed to be a number! " gently caress you CBS.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 04:37 |
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Sober posted:I imagine it would likely be something like "Talbot" if we're being honest. But I don't know if there's any greater literary or other contribution, if it even matters for someone like John, vs. what we see for Finch or even some of Root's aliases. It's John Tanager.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 04:44 |
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John Tandy, heir to the leather empire.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 05:02 |
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Some of the post-series interviews with Nolan and Plageman are coming out: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/22/person-of-interest-creators-discuss-the-final-episode-and-who-lived-and-who-died http://deadline.com/2016/06/person-of-interest-series-finale-post-mortem-reese-dies-follow-up-spinoffs-pilot-opening-jonah-nolan-1201776284/ http://www.tvinsider.com/article/91711/the-person-of-interest-bosses-on-the-series-finales-goodbyes-and-new-beginnings/ quote:…when we meet Reese in the pilot—one of the scenes we couldn't shoot because the state of New York wouldn't let us—the initial pilot had Reese standing on the Manhattan bridge, about the toss himself into the drink.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 05:20 |
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The Man in the Suit should have been John Taylor
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 05:40 |
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I can't imagine watching the opening of "The Devil's Share" at 2x speed.
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2016 09:03 |
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flatluigi posted:You can tell youtube to play that at 2x speed if you want to get the full ketchup experience I was hoping YouTube didn't fix the pitch so it would be Alvin and the Chipmunks singing "Hurt" This at 2x speed is "good" too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4nh0ElrIng monster on a stick fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Dec 26, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 26, 2016 20:33 |
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Zaggitz posted:But if you wanna go there, let's look at Reese in S1. We have him: Disavowing rape culture and victim blaming in ep 4, ep 6 begins a character trend of him submitting openly to women starting with Zoe, reflected in his flashbacks with Kara, and exemplified for the rest of the series with characters like Carter, Shaw and even Zoe. None of this is ever codified with "heh not bad, FOR A GIRL" that you expect out of toxic male heroes. Also in episode 17 or 18 I forget. (the baby ep) The dude is literally crying when he realizes there's nothing he can do to to save the baby except for betraying Carter's trust. You only get that kind of detailed analysis by watching the show at 1x speed tho
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 01:26 |
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SpookyLizard posted:Upon re-reading it in the light of day I had the mental image of John as a Paladin, and now I'm imaging the cast as a DnD party, consisting of a paladin, a rogue, two wizards, a dog and a member of the local constabulary. Finch is a Bard.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 21:43 |
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2024 07:17 |
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Jerusalem posted:Oh don't get me wrong, it was completely in keeping with his character, I'm just mad because he died believing he'd won. Call it petty but I wanted him to live long enough to see Samaritan fail They didn't even know it was cancelled until during season 5 filming, as I recall. Part of the rush came from trying to wrap up storylines, I think the Great Filter may have been something Samaritan had foreseen and was something The Machine would have to deal with. Like how Ben went a bit nuts towards the end but we never saw his dark side in a post-Samaritan world which was probably a story arc for season 6.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 23:02 |