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He took that stabbing very well, but he was wearing a "different" kind of vest.
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I wasn't talking about either type of vest, it was something more "Manly". Check the length of the knife and where he was stabbed, no way that was going to hit anything vital.
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Jun 23, 2016 18:16
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Oasx posted:I am going to be the odd man out and say that i thought the season as a whole was great, there were a few storylines that had to get shortened, but it was nothing major. 
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Jun 24, 2016 22:05
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Pretty much this when I said it earlier. They also foreshadow this if you look into the machine case, it has a fraction of memory chips it used to contain, the Machine is literally leaner than it was before.
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Jun 24, 2016 22:38
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V-Men posted:Did I miss the explanation why Samaritan's backup on an air-gapped machine still had fiber optic lines leading out? There probably some sort of dead man signal like a distinct analogue waveform or a dude who comes in every few days who hits a switch to reset a timer. Signal stops coming in to reset the timer or a physical/external attack happens it allows the server to trip a switch only it can close to use as a bolt hole. Until that internal switch is closed it remains air gapped.
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Jun 25, 2016 07:18
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The assuming in the battle between the Machine and Sammy in he cage is that it was a fair fight. It wasn't up in the satellite. Sam was still loading and the Machine was leaner and faster. The version of Sam being uploaded wasn't stripped down by Harold, it was full fat with all the biases it had picked up during the course of it's existence like the first Machine suit case which still contain those emotions she gave herself. Harold got shot and wasn't going to spot the swap from John as his CIA training would have made it trivial for John to hide that fact even without the gunshot wound. With the wound it took until John arrived to spot the wrong transmitters. Even if he did make the connection earlier it would have been too late and there is no way for Harold to take possession from John. oohhboy fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Just had a look, Johns case is completely different from Harold's as he took the Machine out of the case. It is the same case as where the sleeping gas was in. John brings the empty case with him into the vault even though he would normally have no reason to. John gets his opportunity to swap it out when Harold takes the phone call. There is a shot where John looks a little conspiratorial(?), turns and focuses on the cases, not the guns. There is then another shoot where John is touching the Machine case and it no longer has the laptop on it as he steals that too. The light is still lit, but by the time Harold exits the vault it has become unlit. Harold's finger hides whatever residual charge element was powering the light like a capacitor. The arrangement was likely made before Harold gets handed the Machine and John's deal to protect Harold was made possibly any time the Machine was "Open" plus the Machine would have known what John wanted. Even without stealing it once Ice-9 was uploaded John could have just mugged Harold for the Machine. The details are crazy small though.
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Jun 25, 2016 13:27
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Same writers as far as I know. My guess is that the better dialogue is a side effect of the short season as they compressed all that cleverness into a smaller space so wasted none of it. Brevity is the soul of wit and all that.
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So anybody figure out how Fusco got out of his troubles at the end of the finale? One month, paper work and Bear almost seems like an intentional joke on the writers part considering how much work they put into everyone else's ending. Maybe he had a really good Union Lawyer and he threw John Reilly under the bus.
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Jul 2, 2016 04:43
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The Numbers in the show had better reasons to murder things than CBS ever had. Re-watching from the start, just passed season 1 with the introduction of Leon and Bear. I didn't quite realise how murder happy Reese was when he started. Sure he would kneecap you if you gave him the chance, but he was sending alot of people to the morgue. That grin when he is loving people over is just delightful. I would love to have a look at their show "Bible" just to see how much they kept track of in their storyline and character developments so they don't do anything outright stupid.
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raditts posted:Pretty much everything involving the machine fighting Samaritan was a lot of "tell" and exactly zero "show" which is why I hated whenever they even mentioned them battling. They showed you more than enough for the Machine fight to work. It's just that some of the details are almost background elements and it flows from every season before it.
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They did show you a straight up computer fight is dumb in the cage match, it also served a secondary purpose of showing in a fair fight The Machine loses. That's the beauty of the ending, it wasn't a fight, it was a race and the winner gets to kill the other with impunity. The Machine's victory was the collimation of all the years of it's existence. The real "fight "between The Machine and Sammy was played out by their agents.
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For those who might be interested Westworld is out.
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He would have missed a lot of the details and characterisations while demolishing the intended timing and framing, losing the nuance and the subtleties of the acting. No one is saying he didn't get enjoyment out of it but he likely would have gotten a lot more had it been watched normally. It would be like speeding around a country hitting all the landmarks but never actually stopping to look at them or the journey in between. Changing music's play speed is different. It isn't tied to a fixed frame of reference or timing like video is. If you change the speed a piece of music and played it to someone who hasn't heard it before they likely wouldn't know the difference if they don't have obvious markers like lyrics. Doing the same to video the majority of the time it would be noticed immediately as there are multiple references we use to determine how something should move and at what speed.
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theflyingexecutive posted:toxic masculinity ???! The problem with exercising the number of the week episodes is that every episode has a nugget of relevant information tied to the context of that episode. That was the method that Nolan used to keep the arcs going between the big episodes. You could have a super cut, but jumping between big episodes would be pretty jarring. docbeard posted:...I suddenly want a spinoff where the Machine, instead of giving Leon numbers, just puts him in wacky situations over and over as a means of helping people. Leon gets setup every week so that the local number's team can rescue him after he fixes the problem and he never understands why this keeps happening so he goes along with it Thinking he is awesome. He would get a bunch of money running through every scam in the world but would lose his shirt by the end, preferably a little shredded by the end of the end of the episode.
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theflyingexecutive posted:More fragile than toxic really, Reese wasn't running around boning everyone. theflyingexecutive posted:As far as number of the week goes, I wasn't opposed to the concept, but 99% of the time, it was just a two minute scene of Finch talking to the Machine. It would have been really cool if they didn't know about Samaritan from the beginning and had to figure out there was another AI hunting them. Also, it sucked that they only thought to show other Machine cells in the last season. I would have much preferred that and conflicts with Vigilance over the boring rear end HR and Elias/Dominic arcs. Having other machine cells was out of the question from in season 4 simply because they couldn't afford it. That shoe string of a budget was breaking and the austerity crippled that season. The final season showed what would have happened if they had a proper budget. Not knowing about Samaritan wouldn't have worked either as it would have been ridiculous for the Machine not to know. She did exactly what what you would expect her to do, task the team to make the choice as to how to deal with it.
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theflyingexecutive posted:Not really a question of his skills, just his awful attitude and personality for a while. I wasn't questioning his skills either. Rick Dillinger was the answer to why we got Reese. Dillinger was as skilled as Reese, but with none of the self control or morals. I looked up "Toxic masculinity" which is a questionable term from a questionable site with questionable examples and definition. The only thing Reese matches in the definition is unemotional, which is from the self control he learned as a spy/assassin or still hurting from the loss of his girl or that he doesn't like to talk alot or he is naturally stoic. He opens up again later because he has had the time to form those connections again. http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Toxic_masculinity The Machine did see though. There are multiple episodes where she gives them the chance to stop Samaritan before he is born. She more than likely knew of Vigilance too, however she still communicated in numbers or only to Root but in direct moment by moment orders only so the team had to divine the bigger picture of which they couldn't do alot of the time. Spergatory posted:Toxic masculinity is the thing that ruined Reese's life. He straight up says that he hosed up his own life because he couldn't open his big stupid mouth and actually say feelings stuff to the woman he desperately loved and would've died for.
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He had quit to be with his girl but 9/11 happened. The airport scene was for our dramatic benefit. He didn't find out about the girl until he got back, then he fell apart. He choose the correct choice for her, sacrificing himself for her. He recognized it was not reasonable to keep somebody hanging for an indefinite amount of time. What he didn't expect was her to end up dead instead of being with someone she was happy with. He had no mission, emotionally destroyed. Finch picked him up from that. Reese also isn't as nearly violent has you make him out to be as he more often than not try to de-escalate as seen from the very first fight in the train car. He definitely doesn't enjoy the violence like Kara does, but pragmatically views it as another tool. I still can't see how it matches that definition if that is even a thing.
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You are accusing him of being a man who happens to be a soldier who came to be broken by an event he had no control of or could have foreseen. As far as I can tell "toxic masculinity" is Bull poo poo. I can't tell it is some alt-right or alt-left thing. One says it's all men are rapists, other says men are oppressed or it's hyper-masculinity with overt extreme violence regardless of gender, or blame men for everything because. http://quillette.com/2016/11/16/why-colleges-should-stop-teaching-toxic-masculinity/ So yeah, there is no definition and the whole thing is made out of whole cloth to suit whatever you maybe trying to justify.
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If you are going to apply that to Reese, you must do the same for Fusco, Root, Carter and Shaw because they are all action heroes(Generally on the realistic end) that quip because that what action heroes do. Reese being a male action hero or masculine does not automatically designate him "toxic *insert gender*" as proven by Zaggitz whether you use a more open or "Extreme" interpretation. If you have to reach that far it likely wasn't true in the first place.
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??!??!? I did a search for "fragile masculinity" and it came back as a hastag mocking normal products that have been made "Manly" no matter how nonsensical it maybe. Again it is something with no definition. The Urban dictionary is the closest thing to a definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/tags.php?tag=fragile%20masculinity quote:sausage fears I am not sure of your agenda of insisting on labelling Reese in such context with definitions that doesn't exist nor apply to Reese. Reese is clearly has emotional bonds with Finch for saving him by giving him a mission and Finch is rewarded with his unquestioned loyalty to each other. They both show emotional and physical bonds by their willingness to die for each other to talking about the pain and events they have suffered before they became a team. In season one Reese clearly shows affection by looking after a drugged up Finch and communicating their fondness for each other. You are mistaking stoic and broken for unemotional. Even in his broken state as a homeless person he still forms bonds with other homeless people allowing him in one episode to protect a PoI. Reese is an action hero, of course he is going to beat up bad guys, but he is not doing it to prove his masculinity, he is doing it to save people, to be the hero. His ROE doesn't change, he is kneecapping from the get go and killing when pushed. He does try to talk things out, but he also holds the stick of overt violence during negotiations. As far as I can tell you are just making stuff up or have some sort of weird agenda you don't apply to the females. theflyingexecutive posted:That would make a lot more sense if God mode were always running, but it's weird to have superhero fantasy gun battles in a high concept show. I like that interpretation for sure The Machine doesn't give them God mode all the time because 1. It is deus ex machina 2. The Machine was built to respect free will 3. The Machine giving them all the information they need doesn't make for a compelling show without the investigative aspect. The Team gets numbers instead of corpses, it's a subversion of every other cop show. SpookyLizard posted:I think it's important to remember all the characters basically all are action heroes. They're all experts in their fields, and they're all basically the demigod disciples of a God. The show is serious on its own terms, that's why reeds can knee can knee cap people with out actually looking down his sights on his pistol. The idea that the ASI are Gods came from Greer, something only Root subscribes to. Reese didn't becomes a mess because of Northen Light(although getting betrayed by cruise missile is pretty hardcore), he breaks because the one thing he cared about died and he was powerless to save her.
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I don't know... Mr Egret was a mean SOB and he did threaten nuclear hellfire. Maybe he is closer to an Alchemist with all his prepared cutting edge potions(Hacking) crossed with a Wizard specialising in illusions(his ability to disappear).
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Mr. Nemo posted:But what about that time he helped Reese aim a high powered rifle? I thought it was going to be revealed that he had some kind of training, but I guess no. He's just good at reading winter speed or something. Winter moves fast and comes around every 6 months. Reese likely only wanted a second opinion on the 2 conditions wind and distance. Finch's father might have taught him a thing or two about hunting/gun safety as part of bird watching in a rural area. Reese might be also stroking Finch's ego to make him more courageous like every time Finch says he can't do or isn't comfortable with "XXXX". This is the sniper scene you are looking for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui4iWdqG3_A
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Greer was never going to have a "Oh poo poo" Moment. Before the ASIs Greer was likely second to governments in his ability to gather information. He knew beyond a doubt what he was doing and gladly died for it without question having prostrated to Samaritan. Being the opposite of Finch he had a goal rather than an ideal. Greer's goal was to advance and ensure the survival of humanity by building a higher power to directly take control without any moral constraints to do so. If it meant plugging everyone into the Matrix so be it. The simulation where Shaw interrogates him shows how utterly unflappable he is. Even when dying he continues to be while being completely smug.
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