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PST posted:
I jus caught the last two episodes last night. Seeing Fusco finally get a yellow box made me very happy... even though it'll probably get him killed. I'm gonna miss the poo poo out of this show when its gone.
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Echophonic posted:It's all a Samaritan plot to stop us from rooting (heh) for Team Machine. It's a clever ploy by CBS to get people to not tune in to their channel and just watch the show online. I've only watched 2 episodes this season on TV because CTV's also beholden to CBS's raging hate-boner for this show. At least on CTV.ca they put up big giant red warning banners explaining PoI's schedule fuckery and when to actually watch it.
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NoNostalgia4Grover posted:It ends with a zoom in to a snowglobe w/ a tiny server rack inside it, Ingram leans over to his nightstand, picks up the phone and hastily dials a number. "Harold? ...Yeah, I know it's 3:00AM, but listen to me. That "Machine" thing you're working on? Spike it." And then he goes back to sleep.
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Toplowtech posted:Considering that Samaritan put himself in tons of hardware, it's probably going to require damaging most electronic, so medical equipment and really important things too. "If I don't get on that elevator alone, your daughter will be dead in five weeks... If I do get on that elevator, she'll also be dead in five weeks when I crash civilization."
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SirMonkeyButt posted:Aside from a mid-season cancellation, I've never seen a series openly shat upon by their network like this. Legend of Korra got thrashed about in its final two seasons by Nickelodeon something lovely too. But Nick is also a Viacom network (as is CBS), so this kind of scuzzy executive fuckery is just all in the family. Another big factor in PoI's unending network dickery is CBS's president, Les "Donald Trump will be a disaster for America, but great for my TV ratings" Moonves; a man who has stated in multiple public forums that he hates science fiction television, and who the casts and crews of Star Treks Voyager and Enterprise lived on constant fear of him cancelling their shows out of spite while he was top dog at UPN.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I just realized something. Remember back in the second episode of this season, where the Machine is recovering and is trying to identify Finch by going through a list of its assets. Wanna guess whose names appear in that list? docbeard posted:I'm guessing it's our new Team Irrelevant. Here's the clip in question from the NYCC 2015 preview. The Machine cycles through the following people during its facial recognition meltdown:
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Ignis posted:Slight cast spoilers I guess? Eh, Control getting wrecked by Samaritan and black bagged off to an ignominious death was the perfect way for her to go out. Especially after Crtl-Alt-Del.
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Hollismason posted:Wait who is Groves? Cause he is Analog interface which is kind of a big deal right. Root's real name is Samantha Groves. Or at least what the Machine considers "real", like Reese's name. e: beaten twice over
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Hollismason posted:Yeah the impression I got from Reese alternative history was that he drank himself to death. He fell into a depression and threw himself off a bridge. The Machine says his body was pulled out of the East River and then dumped in a numbered grave because he was a John Doe. e: Beaten, several times over
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raditts posted:The only real question I have is that in the Machine-less world, the original Samaritan created by Arthur whatsisface wouldn't have been scrapped and would have been in The Machine's place. So where the hell does Greer come in to that, why would he be in charge? The only reason he was able to get his hands on Samaritan in the first place was because it had been mothballed so he was able to steal the hard drives from the vault they were kept in. Unless we're to assume that in that world there would have been YET ANOTHER ASI that was just as finished and capable as Samaritan was and Greer acquired some omniscient knowledge about that and where to find all the parts to make it work. Zaggitz posted:In the Harold's what-if you hear Harold and Nathan talking about "those other attacks" and that tells me that the Vigilance plot to put Decima in charge of Samaritan over the ISA ended up still happening. They also show that Carter taking down HR only happens in 2014 which is around the time Decima would have overtaken Control. It's most definitely a different version of Samaritan than the one we see in the "real" world. There's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it Alt-Samaritan POV shot in Shaw's what-if sequence and its UI is vastly different than the "real" Samaritan's, almost simpler, more Machine-like. Whether that's meant to imply that Claypool's original Samaritan was always destined to be a judgemental little poo poo with a messiah complex, or if Greer also got to it and altered it to suit his beliefs, I don't really know. Greer seemed to imply that he didn't actually alter Samaritan's core operating philosophy, he just gave it the means to become god and let it do its own thing.
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Bruceski posted:Um... at the end, for the PoI title card it zoomed out to satellite view and there was a red triangle over part of NY. Was that always there this season or does Samaritan live on in the skies? That's been there since Season 4. Before it was the Machine's yellow box over the title card, but it was flipped to Samaritan's red triangle. This season it starts off as the red triangle but gets overridden with a yellow box at the last second. I guess they just didn't have time to create a "clean" version for the finale to show that the Machine had won and Samaritan was gone for good, even though it already existed for Seasons 2 & 3...
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The Dark Id posted:Now that the series is over, I'm disappointed nobody kicked that dipshit little kid Samaritan was using as a speech puppet in the face at any point. Everything with that kid was loving dumb. For what it's worth, when this happened: I pictured that smug kid screaming in mortal terror.
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Zaggitz posted:I bet that kid is gonna spend the rest of his life in an asylum after flipping out that the voice in his head is gone and trying to tell people about the ai gods and the great filter. Again, I'd like to imagine that the last thing that kid heard from "God" was Samaritan screaming "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! " into his cochlear implant
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DivisionPost posted:So according to that interview, the last song -- before Ramin Djawdi rightfully beat it out -- would have been Bowie's "Heroes." They defininately edited the finale scene to "Heroes". It lines up spooky well when you play it right from when the satellite shot begins. The "I, I can REMEMBER!" part happens right as all the boxes appear on the crowd shot. It's the Machine remembering its purpose.
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oohhboy posted:So anybody figure out how Fusco got out of his troubles at the end of the finale? One month, paper work and Bear almost seems like an intentional joke on the writers part considering how much work they put into everyone else's ending. Maybe he had a really good Union Lawyer and he threw John Reilly under the bus. I'm gonna assume that the Machine outed all the Samaritan-controlled cops as being dirty or forged a bunch of poo poo to get them all fired and/or jailed in order to save Fusco. But yeah, just one line like "I guess I should thank the Magic Box for clearing my name" would have gone a long way. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jul 2, 2016 |
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Yeah the final Machine/Samaritan POV shot makes it pretty clear that Samaritan was still in the process of unpacking itself when the Machine stormed in and clubbed it like a baby seal.
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" into his cochlear implant