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docbeard posted:On an unrelated note, Samaritan's creepy speaker voice in the radio episode was like a thousand times better than anything involving that kid. I burned through the last five episodes this weekend and went to bed last night thinking that the best way to end PoI and piss literally everyone off is to have the entire series run be nothing but a scenario run-through by the Machine contemplating what it would do if it ever ran into another AI.
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Aphrodite posted:I mean, the kid's not really supposed to be good, he's just repeating lines. But yeah it doesn't make it any less annoying to watch him. Right, but the way to have done it correctly is just to have the kid parrot what Samaritan is saying. Unfortunately, someone told the kid to channel his inner Damien and speak like he's the evil mastermind.
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May 30, 2016 18:39
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pasaluki posted:POI has had some really good action scenes, but the minigun stuff was just pure schlock. Then again it's kind of a larger scale version of the show's Walker Texas Ranger syndrome where every week a tiny handgun wipes out an elite squad of machine guns. Ignis posted:My personal theory is that everyone dies except Blackwell, who's led by recordings from the Machine to the subway. There he finds Finch's Faraday cage, and inside it there's a new AI, the product of Mini Samaritan and Mini Machine merged together. And then the Machine's recordings tell the Baby AI Team Machine's story. Fusco has to live - he has a kid and they are not going to kill him off like that. Shaw's either going to live or go out in a tremendous firefight, after having a heart to heart with Root/the Machine. Finch will live. John is an unknown - like Shaw, it could go either way. If he dies, it will be after telling Harold how his life now means something and he appreciates being given purpose. Bear will, of course, survive. I imagine this Blackwell guy will be the bug that takes Samaritan down eventually. He's already shown that he questions orders, and at some point, his conscience will step in. He's the variable the Machine wasn't including in it's simulations versus Samaritan.
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Acer Pilot posted:Carter had a kid too though Carter's kid was older than Fusco's kid, and had the benefit of a father who could take him on. Plus, they had planned on Carter dying in order to propel the show and give the gang something to rally around. Killing Fusco at the end would serve no purpose to the story, especially because this is his redemption from the years of being a dirty cop.
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Jun 2, 2016 17:19
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docbeard posted:I don't consider this evidence for or against Fusco dying, but doesn't he share custody of his son with his ex-wife? Yeah. I think she has full custody. But, being as this is a story and not real life, it really doesn't serve any purpose to kill him, other than an "everybody dies" mentality by the writers. There has to be a bright spot at the end, as a lot of the show focuses on redemption.
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Jun 2, 2016 18:40
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WarLocke posted:I don't know who Ben Linus is but Harold is about to gently caress some poo poo up He was the character played by Michael Emerson on  . Quite possibly the best character on the show - you were really drawn to him, but he was a real son of a bitch.
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Jun 4, 2016 16:35
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LentThem posted:This episode had a lot of moments where it felt like the writing was doing too much WINK WINK GET IT?? at the audience; stuff like the new Irrelevants quoting Finch's opening credits monologue and Reese explaining why he didn't want to be Secret Service. SirMonkeyButt posted:Aside from a mid-season cancellation, I've never seen a series openly shat upon by their network like this. If I don't get a satisfactory conclusion due to CBS' fuckery and shortened season, then I will refuse to watch any of the lovely CBS shows that I already don't watch anyway. I'll probably tune in for March Madness and go right back to forgetting that the network exists. This happens quite often. Networks air shows that aren't made by them, and if they don't hit some arbitrary ratings level, they get dumped with no ceremony. It would have been nice for them to give it a summer slot for a full wrapup, but we got really lucky CBS allowed this half-season to air at all.
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Jun 9, 2016 11:18
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pasaluki posted:Was that virus designed by Finch or that guy who he stole the ID from? Neither. The virus was taken from a base a couple of episodes back. I'm guessing it was something created by the military for cyber warfare purposes (like a Stuxnet.)
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Jun 16, 2016 13:42
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docbeard posted:And Greer, if anything, corrupted Samaritan more than the other way around. I'm in the camp of "satisfied with the ending, but not happy with the season as a whole." There was a lot of sloppy writing this season (understandable, since I assume the writers were scrambling) and threads that were poorly executed. As was mentioned earlier, the arc of the two cops was far more satisfying than a lot of what appeared this entire season (especially Blackwell.) I think the writers are really good at writing slow-burn arcs that are deep and really make you think about things, but the compression of those arcs really didn't work at all. I am glad we did get closure though. Also, thanks to the poster who mentioned that the Machine's voicemail was to let its copy know who and what it was - I totally didn't pick up on that.
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Invalid Validation posted:I thought Johns death was super cheap. He could have accomplished his mission and survived really easily since he's a terminator. Wish they would have come up with a scenario that would actually need him to sacrifice himself, this way just felt cheap. But I kinda felt the same way about Roots death. It should have been much more dramatic but it was just kind of a wet fart. He did sacrifice himself - for Finch. It felt like less because there was the long discussion prior to it happening, rather than a "Look out, sir!" moment. But yeah, the way the past five years have gone, he should have been able to take all of those guys out, while maybe getting a flesh wound. He spent five years consistently hitting kneecaps at range and while on the move, yet could barely hit the Samaritan guys from a static position. Regarding deaths, I felt the same way about Elias. But, to be fair, there have really only been two good deaths - Carter and Anthony.
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Sinteres posted:I think the dialogue was pretty awkward all season, and overly expository. Maybe it always was though, and the long break just contributed to me not being used to it anymore. This may not be a popular sentiment, but I didn't really think the Root and Shaw romance arc was very good either. They were never actually a couple before Shaw got captured, but Root in particular kept going on about being willing to die for Shaw and her life not having meaning without her, and Shaw pretty much did the tv sociopath equivalent eventually. The post-mortem love letter about how it was cool that Shaw's a sociopath because it keeps her on track was pretty dumb too. If I remember correctly, when the Samaritan storyline started up, the show runners stated that it was Act 2 of a three-act story. Season 5 was an effort to wrap up the first four seasons, as well as shoehorn in what would have been content from an additional four seasons. Having a half-season didn't help in that either, as they pretty much had to explain everything to the viewers, as they didn't have time to slowly drip feed us details. I think something that would have helped this season was just dumping the Blackwell character altogether. It would have allowed more time to focus on the rest of the story and maybe not felt like a wasted sidetrack every time he was on screen. Apparently, the intent was to have him act as a mirror to the "Team Machine" analog (salvation vs. descent; responsibility vs. blindly following, etc.,) and I think he could have worked if there were an extra season or two, but in the current season, he was something that distracted from the resolution of the story. I agree with you on Root and Shaw, especially the simulated make out session - that was not at all enjoyable to watch, especially since neither of them really had any chemistry together. If Shaw had ever displayed any affection to Root at all during the show's run, it might have been a different matter, but she was always so standoffish that you never really got any sense that she would (or could) reciprocate Root's affection.
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Sinteres posted:I get how they might have felt constrained by a short season after having so many episodes before, but after watching how much plot prestige dramas can put in 13 or fewer episode seasons, I don't know that I buy that it's really that confining. 100% agreed, but those writers are used to a shorter format, and usually don't have to stick in a bunch of plot points that they only had scribbled on index cards for use in a couple of years.
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Jun 24, 2016 15:54
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raditts posted:Yeah, Greer says a lot of things but we all know he's completely full of poo poo and probably doesn't even realize what influence he's having.
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Nullsmack posted:Wow, how do you even get it out? You stick a magnet in your ear. No, really: quote:
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