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Zaggitz posted:Early heads up. Next week's first episode, 5x4, will air on Sunday in Canada, typical spoiler rules apply. This should only be a one time thing since they are diverting airtime for the 2 hour AoS finale. And that's supposed to be the monster return of Shaw episode. Lucky fuckin' Canucks.
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Zaggitz posted:that was the second episode, in case you missed the premiere. And the premiere had Team Machine barely brute-forcing their way through Samaritan operatives while The Kills belted out "No Wow," so you should get on that if you haven't.
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JossiRossi posted:I wonder if that string of 1s and 0s will be explained in the episode or if they expect that people will work it out from a screen grab (which would be pretty drat cool) It's binary for "JOHN STOP DATING YOUR THERAPIST" (I actually don't like to complain about this aspect of the show because even though it's a very, very bad idea, I understand why they're drawn to each other anyway.)
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Regy Rusty posted:drat, eye recognition? He's good Well, yeah, he's Keith loving David.
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Mraagvpeine posted:That reminds me of something that bothered me. There was this episode where the husband framed his wife of murdering him and the wife then goes looking for him to kill him. At the end, Reese finds them both, leaves a gun for each of them, and leaves them to do whatever they want. Why the hell did he do that when in a previous episode he saved the married couple that wanted each other dead? I'd have to rewatch the episode, but I think Reese's decision was more about the two of them constantly twisting Reese and the team in one direction or another, until he eventually said "Wow, you know what? You're both human dumpster fires. Here are some guns so you can settle this amongst yourselves. I'm going to go somewhere I give a gently caress about. Toodles!"
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RrrrrrrrRRRRAAAAAAA gently caress YOU GUYS threemorehoursthreemorehoursthreemorehours
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But seriously, a full "The Weekend"-esque episode that's basically just Root snuggling Shaw for an hour and maybe getting up to make her pancakes would be bad storytelling, right? Yeah. Definitely bad storytelling.
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A reminder of my stance on this:I, in the last thread, posted:My call: Reese and Finch sacrifice themselves. Root and Shaw take their places. The last scene of the series plays out while Root VOs a version of Finch's monologue from the beginning of every episode. Add in a one-liner from Fusco and I think you've got the perfect ending. It's worth pointing out, however (this is speculation based on something vague but definitive Jonah and Greg said in an interview, you may not want to mouse over), that when they were writing this season, Jonah and Greg were pretty sure it was over, but CBS wouldn't give them a straight answer. So they had to drop the mic in a way that it could be picked back up again if CBS miraculously decided "Actually, we do want this show on the schedule next year, thanks." In their words, they were writing to an ending, but not "a cataclysm" -- which could very well indicate a reset button. I'm optimistic, though; these guys have been judicious before, and I don't think I've seen a show spit this much fire -- seriously, three of the last five episodes are top ten material; "6,741" is a contender for top three -- in a run-up to a lousy wet fart of an ending. (Having said that, I personally don't mind "reset buttons," and I also loved the ending of BSG, so YMMV.) BTW, if you guys like long, rambling essays, I submitted a long read about the show that you can start reading here, and continue with here.
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Mraagvpeine posted:The Elias subplot in this season so far, I can't help but feel that it's been pointless and they probably should have just let Elias die. It's been two episodes.
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Okay, let's nip this in the bud before we start losing our minds. Shaw has escaped. For real. Samaritan didn't identify her on her way out the door because it didn't have a clear view of her skull, much less her face -- she wore a thick army helmet that disguised her from the cameras. Go look at the episode again, or better yet,![]() That's one quick shot to establish that Samaritan didn't have a clear visual of Shaw walking out the door. Why not five? Because it's a one-hour show and the name of the game is "movement." Also, we know she's not in a simulation because when she turned on the radio, a news report recapped the events of the episode. A Samaritan simulation wouldn't bother with that because why the gently caress should it? That would mean fewer resources devoted to convincing Shaw to turn on her friends. Now, Shaw probably can't be sure she's still in a simulation, and despite the fatalistic attitude that allowed her to gloriously gently caress Lambert in the end, that may still come up as a point of drama. Nor can we assume that Team Samaritan has no Plan B in case Shaw escapes, however hard they tried to keep her locked away. But for now, "WATCH OUT! A COMPACT PERSIAN SOCIOPATH IS COMING BACK TO COLLECT SOME DUES!"
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You know what, I was kind of curious about Training Day, but nope. Even if it turns out good, CBS would just gently caress it up. I'm done with them.
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GrandpaPants posted:What is Finch's rampage song? It sounds a little too upbeat but I'm sure the team could've cut an impressive murder montage to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8b4xYbEugo
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Anomalous Blowout posted:You are being watched. I hate this derail so much.
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GENTLEMEN IT'S BEEN AN HONOR
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God drat that owned. Best possible way to close things out, given what they had to work with.
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ArtVandelay posted:He's certainly going to have a lot of explaining to do for Grace Yeah, but the thing about Grace is that she'll be excited to hear it.
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raditts posted:So wait... we saw a couple shots of Greer in a hospital bed, I guess on life support or something... so is that old fucker not actually dead, or is he braindead, or what? That wasn't Greer.
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Hollismason posted:Yeah that was the impression I got. 99% sure. John Nolan's name would've been in the credits; the other 1% accounts for the possibility of me not seeing it.
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HorseRenoir posted:The more I think about it, the more I feel like Blackwell's presence in this show was a big mistake. There were a lot of aborted plotlines in this show where you could tell where they were going if they had more time, but I honestly have no idea what they were trying to do with Blackwell. It felt like his purpose changed from episode to episode, from "average Samaritan operative" to "super special chosen one" to "potential spanner in the works" to "replacement for Martine" before they eventually settled on "Shaw if she never joined Team Machine", which is the least interesting route they could have taken. It makes me wonder why they included him at all. Easy: He's the counter to Samaritan's argument that it wants to save humanity. Starts off as a sympathetic ex-con, is recruited by Samaritan with the same speech Finch gave Reese. But whereas Reese's work gave him a sense of purpose, Blackwell's work chipped away at his humanity, the same humanity Samaritan purported to protect. Okay, Shaw may have killed him despite her being one of the heroes. But that's her moral code; she killed her boss because of the hit he ordered on her old partner. Blackwell wasn't special, and he proved that by patronizing her with that "nothing personal" bullshit -- which is a million miles away from the family man trying to make good that we were introduced to. Could it have used a few more episodes to develop? Sure. But the point is intact: Samaritan argues that it can save the world. It tried to do so by turning good men like Blackwell into murderous pricks like Wilson. Assuming you're on Team Machine and agree with saving the world through saving the individual, what better way to call bullshit on Samaritan's philosophy?
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So according to that interview, the last song -- before Ramin Djawdi rightfully beat it out -- would have been Bowie's "Heroes." I believe that they made the right choice, but I'd kill to see the version where the final montage is cut to that song. That would've been chilling and cool. EDIT: Peter Gabriel's cover might have been even better. I can see Grace laying eyes on Finch just as the orchestra goes apeshit and Gabriel belts out "I, I CAN REMEMBER..." DivisionPost fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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nine-gear crow posted:They defininately edited the finale scene to "Heroes". It lines up spooky well when you play it right from when the satellite shot begins. The "I, I can REMEMBER!" part happens right as all the boxes appear on the crowd shot. It's the Machine remembering its purpose. Zaggitz posted:I just tried this and its fuckin awesome, I hope someone makes a proper cut of this and puts it on youtube. Important distinction: is it the long album version (that starts with "I will be king")? Or the shorter single version (that starts with "I wish you could swim")?
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Nullsmack posted:The preorder prices for Season 5 on Bluray are being wacky on Amazon. It started out saying $45 a few weeks ago, then I saw it at $33 last night and today it's saying $27. Makes me wonder what it's actually going to be in a few weeks when it is released. Don't wait, preorder it today. Amazon locks you into the lowest price after you pre-order, which means if you pre-order at $27, and then it goes down to $20, but goes back up to $45 before release, you still only pay $20.
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Hey, go nominate Person of Interest for some stuff in my dumb TV IV Awards thing.
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Westworld drops on October 2.
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Season 5 of POI just dropped on Netflix. Tell your friends.
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Jerusalem posted:Oh I didn't know that, I just assumed they knew going in that season 5 was the end. No, they kind of did; they announced at Comic-Con that year that they were "dropping the mic" at the end of that 13-episode run. They didn't know know, but they could read the tea leaves.
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WarLocke posted:I haven't rewatched the show since it ended (I really should do that), but I think the nautilus shell girl was kind of intended to serve the role that ex-con was introduced for (recruited by Samaritan, but still basically a good person that Team Machine could convince to work for them on the inside). But instead she never shows up again, the ex-con gets introduced and flirts with that storyline, then it all goes nowhere and gets dropped. Ehhh, I think Blackwell was introduced more as a parallel to Reese, to show how Samaritan corrupts through its demand of unquestioning loyalty while The Machine heals through its challenge to protect the innocent. (Samaritan agents basically recruit him through the same speech Finch gives Reese, they practically put a big blinking neon sign over it.) But yeah, in order to get the most out of that idea, it needed a few more episodes to cook, so it could further detail the compromises Blackwell makes.
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