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Tiberius Christ posted:i heard ant-man jumps up tony starks dickhole and punches his prostate to death should be good I don't think that will happen.
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Detective Dog Dick posted:Hold on now, let's hear him out. I seriously doubt Ant-Man will be giving people prostate orgasms, success of Deadpool be damned.
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Apr 27, 2016 23:37
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Soap Opera Digest fuckin owns, you better watch your step.
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Apr 28, 2016 21:53
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GonSmithe posted:Yes it is, actually. Legally. Yeah, almost everywhere in the US you can potentially lose your license for it.
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Apr 30, 2016 22:34
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The smear about the frivolity of the "Hot Coffee" lawsuit is shamefully persistent!
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Apr 30, 2016 22:59
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GonSmithe posted:It's 100% corporate brainwashing. And people take McDonald's side, it's insane. It's extremely easy to frame in a flippant way.
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Apr 30, 2016 23:09
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Batman bin Suparaman has got the Red Mafiya, AQIM and Blackwater in there.
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May 1, 2016 21:22
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Kurzon posted:
Fun fact: there's a big rear end ad for these on the side of a building six or seven blocks away from Ground Zero. I don't know if it's this brand exactly, but yeah. Skyscraper parachutes.
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May 3, 2016 21:20
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"Honest Red-Blooded Filmgoers"
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May 6, 2016 21:37
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It's weird to say that the main problem with this movie is Spiderman.
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May 7, 2016 19:00
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:That's frankly a weird thing to say about any movie. It comes up surprisingly often, Spiderman 2 being the exception.
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May 7, 2016 19:04
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It's way too easy to give Mark Millar a ton of poo poo but completely backgrounding Tony Stark's creepiness in The Ultimates for the MCU movies makes him seem less scary and more sleazy. In The Ultimates, part of what this character is based on Tony essentially retains proprietary rights over the various government employees and freaks in his employ. This means he can (and does) simply hold tryouts for the Super Soldier drug, allows SHIELD to have Ant-Men/Giant-Men, etc. It's very out front that he's a ruthless technocrat that treats the Avengers like employees. In this movie, they're just mum about his creating a blacksite so it doesn't reflect poorly on him when he 'goes rogue', among other insane schemes that 'collateral damage' pale against, like the recruitment of child soldiers. It's very odd.
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May 8, 2016 02:29
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Zero One posted:OH I was also surprised there was no Nick Fury That character was wisely played by Tony Stark.
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May 8, 2016 02:55
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's really bizarre that these films contain basically no indication of how any of these weird-rear end organizations actually work, so this idea that they need oversight is like "they didn't already?". That's what happened after SHIELD was disbanded - Tony simply stopped referring to it. No flying helicarriers, no Nick Fury, just backdoor arms deals with the US military. But all that stuff is still there. The minute the legislation is unveiled to them, he feigns considering it, but he already has the prison, he as speed dial to JSOC (and says as much). All of this has already happened and he just needs rabbit holes for Cap to go down to make him swallow the idea because he knows Cap knows better than to just agree to it. This is sleazy. In Avengers 2, he had an army of Chappies that just listened to someone more convincing, someone more Tony than Tony. Consider the characters War Machine: a crasser, less 'clean' Iron Man who officially does jobs for the Air Force. Vision: a check on independent-minded employees. Tony's robot butler has a meet-cute with the orphan in his employ to conceal the fact that he is her warden. Isn't that really goddamn creepy? That he lurks in the walls 'for her protection'? Spiderman: an easily controlled kid he meets through his superhero recruitment grant since apparently Banner disagreed too often. This all goes unchallenged until they see the paperwork. The only one of these characters treated somewhat seriously is Ant-Man, who almost kills people a couple of times because he hasn't been vetted at all.
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May 8, 2016 05:27
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TFRazorsaw posted:You know... the grant didn't actually exist, right? Yes. It's a black-ops headhunting scheme.
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May 8, 2016 05:40
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TFRazorsaw posted:How could he track someone down via something they never submitted themselves for?! The same reason he created a grant to discover the next big thing in technology. His philanthropy is not no-strings-attached. In Civil War the comic, Tony sweetens Peter's deal with the Iron Spider deal. It's a signing bonus for a big coup like Spiderman. In Civil War the movie, he creates Spiderman's branding. He makes Spiderman official. He's Uncle Tony (or is at least aiming to be). The characterization is pretty consistent: he's the Avengers' CEO. He made the logo, he designs the costumes, he pays the salaries, heads R&D and PR and provides a campus to live and work on. They're all beholden. Captain America is something like an activist investor, a "good cop". He thinks right conduct can change this from within but at the end, he's changed. Ever notice how when someone reads a letter in voiceover in a movie, it's read in the author's voice? Why is Steve's letter in Tony's voice? Whose movie is this? HUNDU THE BEAST GOD fucked around with this message at 05:56 on May 8, 2016 |
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May 8, 2016 05:54
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WampaLord posted:It's not, it's in Steve's voice. I would've sworn up and down it was in Tony's voice. Something sounded really off about it.
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May 8, 2016 06:02
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TFRazorsaw posted:You're not listening. You said he used something Peter submitted himself to track him down. That is literally not what occurs. Peter isn't in the drat system, It's his business to keep tabs on this kind of thing, or are you meant to think he is funding these students' wildest dreams for philanthropy's sake? He's fishing. He made over a hundred Iron Man prototypes because the one iteration wasn't good enough, after all. He built a prison, just in case, an Iron Man suit retrofitted with ballistics for the US military, just in case, automated police suits, etc. He's a futurist.
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TFRazorsaw posted:The US army built the Raft. That's why Ross is in charge of it. He flat out tells Clint he doesn't approve of the prison they're in. So why is he the only one with prior knowledge of it? Let's say SHIELD manufactured it and it's merely being repurposed. He has an automated chopper in his possession that takes him straight there. Why does he have privileged access to it? quote:That's it. That's the actual line. Peter isn't receiving the grant.
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May 8, 2016 06:19
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Classtoise posted:I don't think the helicopter was explicitly automated to fly there. Moreso it was Friday controlling it. Likewise, he might have only had prior knowledge because he signed the accords. "Oh yeah and any superhumans who resist or act outside the law are put in the Raft." I think you guys don't give the way this stuff is written enough credit. There is no 'oh yeah'. The accord is presented as a bound brief. Tony had detailed prior knowledge of the program and helped lay the groundwork. To pretend to play the turnkey is part of his silent act at the beginning.
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May 8, 2016 06:30
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Radio! posted:I think the implication was pretty strong that Ross called him up and went "yo we've got your friends in jail, come see what you can get out of them". Who made him the appointee? As first to sign, he was first deputized, or something? TFRazorsaw posted:He says his "silent act" is due to a headache. He repeatedly exhibits health problems throughout the movie, and consistent with prior appearances of the character. You're being highly selective. Of course I'm being highly selective, the movie is allegedly about an ideological dispute. There's something more going on than the false flagger manipulating everything behind the scenes to make the Avengers react, more than trigger phrases and kill switches. But for some reason, the film doesn't commit to a point of view. It gives everyone an out.
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May 8, 2016 06:39
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Classtoise posted:He's being groomed, but not to be Tony's pet. He's being groomed to be the next big hero.. They're one in the same. The whole story of all these movies is how to recapture Iron Man 2's magic. The stinger at the end promises custody in 'the right hands ', that is, Tony's mentorship. In fact, both stingers at the end aren't promising new stories, simply responsible stewardship of the franchise. It's all about looking the part, hitting the poses and whether the characters seem to get along. Not that much about the substance of these movies.
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May 8, 2016 15:50
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Xenomrph posted:Yes, and it is the good and correct thing to do at the end of a movie you enjoy. I wish I knew why people were so bothered by it.
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May 8, 2016 17:19
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Gyges posted:I just find it odd that it seems to be becoming more common. Or I'm just seeing fewer movies in the theater that don't appeal to post movie clappers. I guess I remember it happening at random films. I remember people clapping at the end of Malcolm X, Forrest Gump, Titanic, etc.
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May 8, 2016 17:25
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Steve2911 posted:They are clapping for no one. It's less weird than laugh tracks.
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May 8, 2016 18:00
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Lt. Danger posted:They are communally clapping for no one. They are clapping for each other. We all had a great time, didn't we?
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May 8, 2016 18:11
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:When did he provide one to the Air Force? The one Rhodey had in IM2 was confiscated from him and by Age of Ultron Rhodey has retired from active service and joined the Avengers. He just happens to have no problem with the working relationship they have.
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May 8, 2016 18:16
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Cythereal posted:What we see of Stark Industries (as distinct from Tony's pet projects) in the movies after IM1 shows them to now be primarily a computer tech/aerospace/energy megacorp that's huge on global outreach and education. That had an army of robocops at the ready, for some reason.
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May 8, 2016 18:36
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So "guy who creates drone riot cops because he's bored" is just an all around great guy. Hmm.
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May 8, 2016 18:43
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Cythereal posted:Tony explicitly states in Age of Ultron that he was trying to end and replace the team so everyone could go home and get on with their lives, leaving the superheroics and life-threatening battles to robots instead. TFRazorsaw posted:What? They're basically meant to stand in one spot and tell people to avoid the explosions and poo poo. That doesn't strike you as the least bit funny? This is a straightforwardly utopian idea?
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May 8, 2016 18:57
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PJOmega posted:A deployable fleet of emergency response workers able to act in extreme conditions performing humanitarian aid while depicting a human-esque form in order to ease discomfort across language barriers. That's literally the opening scene of RoboCop (2014). TFRazorsaw posted:Ultron was meant to be a replacement superhero, yes. But they were trying to make a JARVIS-like artificial intelligence; not just a killbot but effectively a "person". He became a person. How'd that work out?
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May 8, 2016 19:27
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TFRazorsaw posted:What Ultron became is due to circumstances Tony didn't even imagine were possible; something to fault him with for sure, but we're speaking to his intent. Doesn't he tell the kids at MIT to imagine what's possible? If he's trying to make the world a better place, how does he keep blundering down the wrong path?
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May 8, 2016 19:42
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TFRazorsaw posted:It's almost like he has a bevy of personal flaws that affect his judgement or something. Why is this treated as a loveable quirk, then? By his own reasoning and agreement to sign the accords, he should be imprisoned. Instead, he's deputized. Why is that?
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May 8, 2016 19:48
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Cythereal posted:Did you watch the movie? Stark talked with the primary authority in charge and got his explicit permission to have 36 hours. Which is presumably how the Accords were intended to work in the first place. Stark is completely responsible for the Sokovia incident. If the Accords are about subordination to laws, accountability and civilian authority, he should certainly not be tasked with enforcing that accord. The problem is that the film skirts around this. If you're comparing stuff to the comics, now's the time. The comics come right out and have the balls to say he has membership in the Illuminati alongside Doctor Doom. The films refuse to acknowledge that he is the prime mover. Cythereal posted:Now if you want to ask why Wakanda is harboring international fugitives who violated the very Accords their late king proposed... Black Panther is in the Illuminati, as well.
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Kurzon posted:Some, like that black mother and Zemo, blame the Avengers erroneously but they seem to be the minority. In this particular case, how would they be in error?
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TFRazorsaw posted:The Illuminati doesn't exist in the MCU. It does, it just doesn't have a name. Cythereal posted:Scarlet Witch is responsible for the Sokovia disaster. She says it herself: she used her psychic powers to drive Stark into a self-destructive mania that would destroy the Avengers. The whole point of a comic book futurist superhero is that he tends to create catastrophes that only he can resolve. This is a problem. K. Waste posted:john hammond's problem is not that jurassic park was a good idea, but that he relied too much on automation. you can't think through this one, razor, you have to feel it. the problem is that jurassic park was not a good idea.
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Cythereal posted:Except it doesn't exist. You're assuming malice where there is none. The Illuminati is not a malicious organization with nefarious goals. It's simply an unaccountable and implicitly excepted horde of power. TFRazorsaw posted:You're gonna need to give me some evidence on this one, man. T'Challa all but states he's gone in a different direction from Tony by the end credits scene. And hell, Black Widow recruited him, not Stark. SHIELD has been disbanded, and all that's left are the various organizations that do what SHIELD does, as if nothing has changed, except they don't talk about it or have flying battleships. The Accords are a surprise to everyone but Tony because you'll notice he never gave up his relationships with the highest level of government. Tony's power and influence plus the sanction of the government and military are SHIELD. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD fucked around with this message at 20:13 on May 8, 2016 |
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May 8, 2016 20:08
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doverhog posted:Wanda's house arrest is not just about public perception or "scaring people". Sure it is. Tony even calls it a PR problem. Which one of them qualifies as "not dangerous"?
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Cythereal posted:And that's not Tony's fault. "The world's narrative hates you and everything you do with the fury of a thousand suns" is not an issue you can hold against the person in question. It's a problem everyone seemingly wants to enable, rather than resolve. Everyone in these movies sucks up to the boss and that seems nuts to me. This is a movie at least in part about worshipping a heroic genius who takes power little by little in secret, yet that doesn't get knocked as Randian. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD fucked around with this message at 20:49 on May 8, 2016 |
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