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Breadallelogram posted:
They just need to adopt enough sanity to undercut Clinton, then forget about it come December. Probably won't work. I hope. Edit: Snipe sandwich.
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Cephalocidal posted:I think he looks pretty Handsome, Jack.  perfidious eyes 
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I don't give a poo poo what Julian Castro looks like!!!!
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Breadallelogram posted:I don't give a poo poo what Julian Castro looks like!!!! once you see it its there forever
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His hair is very well styled in that photo imo
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Goetta posted:His hair is very well styled in that photo imo Probably paid $300 for that haircut.
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Visible Changes
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Nonsense posted:Visible Changes that's a deep cut. i got a haircut at the galleria visible changes when i was a wee shaver
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Is voting reform progressive? (There doesn't seem to be any applicable threads for it or alternative systems atm) http://www.rcvmaine.com/ While I focused on Q#1 for Maine I forgot to look at the other five, and Q#5 is more important than Q#1. It'd certainly assist in making sure progressive candidates get a proper amout of support at the very least. ThndrShk2k has issued a correction as of 21:18 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Voting reform should be at the absolute forefront of progressive politics.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Voting reform should be at the absolute forefront of progressive politics. Yes. But tempered with a sound historical understanding of the pitfalls of entryism. Basically, take five minutes to fill out a ballot, but don't let it stop you from burning it all down. It's the classic carrot and stick, count our votes fairly and stop loving us or we end the current electoral system and make a new one.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Maine/comments/4vn7lp/i_am_kyle_bailey_campaign_manager_for_the/ Apparently the campaign manager for the initiative did an AMA today answer questions quote:While Question 5 keeps party primaries, it adopts ranked choice ballots for these elections, too, so primary voters will have more voice and more choice in selecting Democratic, Republican, Green, and Libertarian nominees in our state. Good news for both parties  quote:Question: ThndrShk2k has issued a correction as of 21:53 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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I really really wanna see ranked/preferential voting become a thing in the United States in my lifetime. It just sounds way more sensible than typical FPTP approaches.
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Pollyanna posted:I really really wanna see ranked/preferential voting become a thing in the United States in my lifetime. It just sounds way more sensible than typical FPTP approaches. Because it is.
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Don't fall for it.
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BRB digging some truth.
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Coloradoans have this guy they can vote for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8OrLpAUTA Arn Menconi
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I'm in the "don't vote third party camp" until referendum's are enacted. But I agree that the "Nader cost Gore the election" argument is unbelievably stupid.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I'm in the "don't vote third party camp" until referendum's are enacted. But I agree that the "Nader cost Gore the election" argument is unbelievably stupid. Same.
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If Nader cost the Democrats the 2000 election, then why don't people say Perot cost H.W. Bush the 1992 election?
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punk rebel ecks posted:If Nader cost the Democrats the 2000 election, then why don't people Perot cost H.W. Bush the 1992 election? My dad says he did, lol.
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Third parties can literally get crushed just by saying "you'll lose the election for [Major Party] if you vote for [Third Party]." It's not like people are dumb for saying it, it just shithouses them and it's completely effective in a soulcrushing way and therefore politically the strongest line of attack.
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Still voting for Mickey Mouse.
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Palicgofueniczekt posted:Still voting for Mickey Mouse. God bless
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punk rebel ecks posted:If Nader cost the Democrats the 2000 election, then why don't people say Perot cost H.W. Bush the 1992 election? My understanding was that a bunch of Democrats in Florida ended up voting for Bush(quite a lot more than voted for Nader), and a whole lot more just didn't vote at all. How come that never comes up?
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khwarezm posted:My understanding was that a bunch of Democrats in Florida ended up voting for Bush(quite a lot more than voted for Nader), and a whole lot more just didn't vote at all. Why would you want to think about possible failures in your campaign strategy when you can blame the electorate for not voting right instead?
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Zoran posted:Why would you want to think about possible failures in your campaign strategy when you can blame the electorate for not voting right instead? The establishment Democrats are truly a group stuck in a bubble. Constantly blaming voters instead of reaching out to them.
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Crazy how they were only able to reach out to 51 million voters. How embarrassing, loving establishment!!! *smokes a blunt*
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khwarezm posted:My understanding was that a bunch of Democrats in Florida ended up voting for Bush(quite a lot more than voted for Nader), and a whole lot more just didn't vote at all. The only people it doesn't come up with are democrats who make the argument who will then straight ignore it if you do bring it up
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Crazy how they were only able to reach out to 51 million voters. How embarrassing, loving establishment!!! *smokes a blunt* lol
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khwarezm posted:My understanding was that a bunch of Democrats in Florida ended up voting for Bush(quite a lot more than voted for Nader), and a whole lot more just didn't vote at all. More than a million registered Florida Democrats did not vote at all lol
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I wonder how similar to 2000 this election will be? A populist nationalist tough guy candidate on one side and a pretty unimpressive unexciting democrat on the other, I can see third parties drawing two or three percent of the vote nationally this time around. Could be significant depending on which states pull hard for third parties. Democrats in the media are hitting the ground running with nasty media campaigns against Jill Stein, so they must be seeing some internal numbers that are a little bit scary for themselves. I'd love to see a DNC email leak for the next few months and look at how often Stein is mentioned.
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No one is nervous about Jill Stein, no one.
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Reason posted:I wonder how similar to 2000 this election will be? A populist nationalist tough guy candidate on one side and a pretty unimpressive unexciting democrat on the other, I can see third parties drawing two or three percent of the vote nationally this time around. Could be significant depending on which states pull hard for third parties. I just needed to quote this guy, saying the Dems are scared of Jill Stein. Okay bye.
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nightmare stein
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I read that Gary is doing okay in Utah but haven't actually sought out the polls that indicate that. Congrats Gary.
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Breadallelogram posted:I read that Gary is doing okay in Utah but haven't actually sought out the polls that indicate that. Congrats Gary. Gary Gilmore for prez.
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Breadallelogram posted:I read that Gary is doing okay in Utah but haven't actually sought out the polls that indicate that. Congrats Gary. Also Nader/Perot did nothing wrong
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Perot was cool for wrecking HW Bush despite being a chode of a man.
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