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Non Serviam
Feb 25, 2006

N-n-n-ice m-m-muh-muh-meltdown, f-f-faggot.

A Bag of Milk posted:

You could certainly benefit from upgrading just your video card, and getting 8GB more RAM would help as well. The processor is still very competitive and imo not worth upgrading yet along with the motherboard. The GTX 1050Ti would be a great upgrade if your monitor isn't more than 1080p, or the GTX 1080 for 1440p. It might be the worst market for buying video cards ever right now though, honestly not too many other options.

Why would you say it's a bad market right now? Just the lack of options, or prices are high?

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Lawen
Aug 7, 2000



What country are you in? US
What are you using the system for? Dedicated 4k gaming rig
What's your budget? Willing to get really crazy if needed to meet requirements but ~$2k, ideally.
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? Looking to do 4k @ 60fps with settings on "High" or better

My brother wants a badass 4k gaming rig and is willing to throw some serious coin at the problem. His requirements to me were "I want to play games at 4k, 60fps minimum, highest possible settings; upper limit of $5k but hopefully not that much."

He already has a monitor and all needed peripherals (kb/mouse/speakers/etc).

I put together a build (below) but I haven't built a gaming rig in about a year and a half and haven't hosed with 4k at all. Not sure if he's going to need to SLI 1080Tis or if he should wait a couple weeks for the i9s to release. Also not sure if I should go with a bigger PSU in case he decides to add a second 1080Ti later. He prefers Intel/Nvidia over AMD/AMD (for...reasons).

Suggestions?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($326.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($199.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founder Edition Video Card ($704.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($132.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2263.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-23 14:23 EDT-0400

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?


Non Serviam posted:

Why would you say it's a bad market right now? Just the lack of options, or prices are high?

New cryptocurrency has appeared that has people buying up most AMD and nvidia video cards (not the 1080 and 1080ti though because the ram on these two cards is different and not yet well suited to mining cryptocurrency) for mining rigs so the stock that is left is super overpriced.

This is a new development as of a couple weeks ago. It looks like I got in right under the wire with the 1050ti I purchased for my daughter 2 weeks ago. Now they are either all gone or $60-$100 more than they were two weeks ago.

To make matters worse since the gamers still want cards the prices on the 1080s went up because there was suddenly more demand for them since they are the only cards with availability right now, but they are still cheaper than they were before the 1080ti was launched.

GutBomb fucked around with this message at Jun 23, 2017 around 18:38

Gaj
Apr 30, 2006


Hey guys, I just bought the luxury gamer set up here, i5k intel, 16 gigs ram, geforce 1080...

The problem is with my drives. I have a PNY SSD as my OS drive with 120 gigs, I then have a Samsung 850 evo at 500gigs as my gaming drive. Windows 10 will not recognize the 850 Evo, and im really confused as Samsung Magician does.

owls or something
Jul 7, 2003


Gaj posted:

Hey guys, I just bought the luxury gamer set up here, i5k intel, 16 gigs ram, geforce 1080...

The problem is with my drives. I have a PNY SSD as my OS drive with 120 gigs, I then have a Samsung 850 evo at 500gigs as my gaming drive. Windows 10 will not recognize the 850 Evo, and im really confused as Samsung Magician does.

Maybe go in to Disk Management and make sure the drive is formatted with a file system and not just unallocated space.

Kintamarama
Oct 3, 2013


You probably just need to initiate it in Disk Management.

Gaj
Apr 30, 2006


After fixing that, and a reboot, it works, yay!

Gaj fucked around with this message at Jun 23, 2017 around 21:44

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

Lawen posted:

What country are you in? US
What are you using the system for? Dedicated 4k gaming rig
What's your budget? Willing to get really crazy if needed to meet requirements but ~$2k, ideally.
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? Looking to do 4k @ 60fps with settings on "High" or better

My brother wants a badass 4k gaming rig and is willing to throw some serious coin at the problem. His requirements to me were "I want to play games at 4k, 60fps minimum, highest possible settings; upper limit of $5k but hopefully not that much."

He already has a monitor and all needed peripherals (kb/mouse/speakers/etc).

I put together a build (below) but I haven't built a gaming rig in about a year and a half and haven't hosed with 4k at all. Not sure if he's going to need to SLI 1080Tis or if he should wait a couple weeks for the i9s to release. Also not sure if I should go with a bigger PSU in case he decides to add a second 1080Ti later. He prefers Intel/Nvidia over AMD/AMD (for...reasons).

Suggestions?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($326.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($199.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founder Edition Video Card ($704.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($132.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2263.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-23 14:23 EDT-0400

If he does decide to SLI 1080Tis he will need more than a 650W PSU. They draw under a little under 300W at load, but combined they'll draw enough to make 650W 'iffy' since the 7700K can draw 91W+, especially overclocked. Look into 850W (and I'm sure there'll be people in here who say that's overkill).

Others will make the 'thread favorite' changes for you (Cryorig H7 for the HSF, Corsair RMx or EVGA G3 PSUs, etc.), but your mention of "serious coin" makes me want to mention that he's buying into a dead socket. Coffee Lake and the consumer six-core CPUs are ~2 months away, and if he sinks nearly $2300 on this machine he's going to be pissed when something that comes out in less than two months eats its lunch, and he won't be able to upgrade without going with a brand new CPU and brand new motherboard. He might want it NOW, but I just can't advise spending *this* much on a new machine that's about to be 'old' and non-upgradable.

And if he doesn't mind waiting for his 1080Ti to ship: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gigaby...mode=guest_open (current price is $650)

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Harik
Sep 9, 2001


As much as I want to help AMD, I can't justify putting a Ryzen in for business until they fix their glitches. Come on AMD, help me out here.

Cross check this I7 for me:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($292.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 460 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($108.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($132.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus - VA32AQ 31.5" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($270.00)
Keyboard: EagleTec - KG010 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($44.92 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech - M705 Wireless Laser Mouse ($23.52 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1420.25

Thoughts? Put in the -K even without overclocking for the better base clocks? Drop the GPU entirely and use the iGPU? It's driving 1440x2160, singlehead, running visual studio/android studio etc. No CAD or anything.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?


Harik posted:

As much as I want to help AMD, I can't justify putting a Ryzen in for business until they fix their glitches. Come on AMD, help me out here.

Cross check this I7 for me:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($292.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 460 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($108.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($132.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus - VA32AQ 31.5" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($270.00)
Keyboard: EagleTec - KG010 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($44.92 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech - M705 Wireless Laser Mouse ($23.52 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1420.25

Thoughts? Put in the -K even without overclocking for the better base clocks? Drop the GPU entirely and use the iGPU? It's driving 1440x2160, singlehead, running visual studio/android studio etc. No CAD or anything.

You need a z270 motherboard to take advantage of that ram. It will only run at 2400 I think without a Z series board. And you can drop the video card if you're not doing any games, 3D or video editing.

Harik
Sep 9, 2001


Ok, dropped the GPU and moved the money into a Z270, -K processor and Cryorig H7. Good catch, thanks!

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($361.14 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.55 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($121.67 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($128.38 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($235.38 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($74.88 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($30.00)
Monitor: Asus - VA32AQ 31.5" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($270.00)

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

Harik posted:

Ok, dropped the GPU and moved the money into a Z270, -K processor and Cryorig H7. Good catch, thanks!

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($361.14 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.55 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($121.67 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($128.38 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($235.38 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($74.88 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($30.00)
Monitor: Asus - VA32AQ 31.5" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($270.00)

Here's a good chunk of savings on the 7700K: http://www.ebay.com/itm/391685219289

(evidently you can save an additional $15 if you use PayPal and the coupon code MROUSNK6JGV8TBM at checkout - the coupon expires tomorrow)

They're selling it for $349.99 on their website.

Also, the 650W G3 is $69.99 after rebate for the next six days at Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...N82E16817438094

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at Jun 24, 2017 around 00:23

Harik
Sep 9, 2001


BIG HEADLINE posted:

Here's a good chunk of savings on the 7700K: http://www.ebay.com/itm/391685219289

(evidently you can save an additional $15 if you use PayPal and the coupon code MROUSNK6JGV8TBM at checkout - the coupon expires tomorrow)

They're selling it for $349.99 on their website.

Also, the 650W G3 is $69.99 after rebate for the next six days at Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...N82E16817438094

You rock so hard, thanks.

I should have everything here wednesday or thursday, and I can finally kick this A8-3870 to the dumpster where it belongs.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

this is a level beyond puke

you can call it puke 2


Running an ASUS Prime B350 Plus board right now and it uses a Realtek ALC887 chipset for audio. I'm about to uninstall and reinstall my audio drivers particularly the ASUS-branded Realtek HD Audio Manager as everything suddenly sounds... hollow? Muffled?

I was running an ASRock Fatal1ty B350 Gaming K board which has a Realtek ALC892 chipset and, for the week (if that) that the board was alive, it didn't sound this bad. The ASUS onboard sound actually doesn't sound very good to me and I can't find any of the typical settings like virtual surround sound or some "Premium ux ux ux" bullshit settings that might be on. So if completely reinstalling the drivers doesn't fix up the purely subjective audio issue I was curious about sound cards. Yeah, I know, I read the OP and I personally haven't had a soundcard since like the early 2000s.

I'm looking at the ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 for roughly $50 CAD. Any suggestions?

axelord
Dec 28, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Wirth1000 posted:

Running an ASUS Prime B350 Plus board right now and it uses a Realtek ALC887 chipset for audio. I'm about to uninstall and reinstall my audio drivers particularly the ASUS-branded Realtek HD Audio Manager as everything suddenly sounds... hollow? Muffled?

I was running an ASRock Fatal1ty B350 Gaming K board which has a Realtek ALC892 chipset and, for the week (if that) that the board was alive, it didn't sound this bad. The ASUS onboard sound actually doesn't sound very good to me and I can't find any of the typical settings like virtual surround sound or some "Premium ux ux ux" bullshit settings that might be on. So if completely reinstalling the drivers doesn't fix up the purely subjective audio issue I was curious about sound cards. Yeah, I know, I read the OP and I personally haven't had a soundcard since like the early 2000s.

I'm looking at the ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 for roughly $50 CAD. Any suggestions?

It might be something simple like if your monitor has built in speakers it's defaulting to using those rather than your actual speaker set up, when you installed the new motherboard.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

this is a level beyond puke

you can call it puke 2


axelord posted:

It might be something simple like if your monitor has built in speakers it's defaulting to using those rather than your actual speaker set up, when you installed the new motherboard.

Nah, it's not that. Maybe I'm just being hypersensitive with new hardware. Driver reinstall didn't do it and doing my own reading into sound cards really, really don't make it sound worth it. Meh, maybe my 10+ year old Creative T40s are on their way out.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

It's more expensive, but I've been using a Creative SB Z card for years without a single hiccup. Everything I've heard about ASUS sound cards is that their drivers are somehow even worse than Creative's.

Actuarial Fables
Jul 29, 2014



Nap Ghost

Wirth1000 posted:

Running an ASUS Prime B350 Plus board right now and it uses a Realtek ALC887 chipset for audio. I'm about to uninstall and reinstall my audio drivers particularly the ASUS-branded Realtek HD Audio Manager as everything suddenly sounds... hollow? Muffled?

I was running an ASRock Fatal1ty B350 Gaming K board which has a Realtek ALC892 chipset and, for the week (if that) that the board was alive, it didn't sound this bad. The ASUS onboard sound actually doesn't sound very good to me and I can't find any of the typical settings like virtual surround sound or some "Premium ux ux ux" bullshit settings that might be on. So if completely reinstalling the drivers doesn't fix up the purely subjective audio issue I was curious about sound cards. Yeah, I know, I read the OP and I personally haven't had a soundcard since like the early 2000s.

I'm looking at the ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 for roughly $50 CAD. Any suggestions?

In the Audio Manager, check out the Sound Effects tab and make sure Environment and Equalizer aren't set to anything.

If you do go for an ASUS sound card, there are 3rd party drivers here http://maxedtech.com/asus-xonar-unified-drivers/

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002
I often times speak without thinking

Considering picking all this up from Microcenter tomorrow. Their in-store price is somehow less than the lowest online prices, and they have everything in stock. I haven't had a PC since ~2010 and want to get back into gaming. Thoughts?


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($199.00 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($135.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($174.58 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($719.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($103.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: ViewSonic - XG2703-GS 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor ($699.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2588.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-24 23:21 EDT-0400

I was homebuilding water-cooled PCs back in the late 90s so the water-cooler is more for nostalgia than anything.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

That is a tremendous amount of money to spend for a socket that'll be dead in about two months, and even then, a lot of money to spend to not trade up to a 7700K just when game developers are going to have a greater incentive to write games (for consoles) that take advantage of more threads.

Remember that Micro Center allows you to haggle on the price, especially if you go in there with the intent of spending over two grand. Also know that they price match any large retailer (either B&M or online) so long as said store has the item in stock. So don't pay any more than you have to.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/c..._a_microcenter/

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at Jun 25, 2017 around 03:37

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002
I often times speak without thinking

BIG HEADLINE posted:

That is a tremendous amount of money to spend for a socket that'll be dead in about two months, and even then, a lot of money to spend to not trade up to a 7700K just when game developers are going to have a greater incentive to write games (for consoles) that take advantage of more threads.

Remember that Micro Center allows you to haggle on the price, especially if you go in there with the intent of spending over two grand. Also remember that they price match any large retailer (either B&M or online) so long as said store has the item in stock. So don't pay any more than you have to.

Well that is disappointing. Should I wait for the new package? Not exactly in a hurry, it's just for recreation.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

Jealous Cow posted:

Well that is disappointing. Should I wait for the new package? Not exactly in a hurry, it's just for recreation.

Intel's evidently planning on Coffee Lake being out in August (engineering samples benchmarks are already leaking out, which is a good sign), which means plan for late August/early-to-mid September. Rumor has it that the CL i5s this time around may be 4C/8T parts, and the six-cores might come in a 6C/6T i5 SKU and a 6C/12T i7 SKU. The base-model Sky-X is the 7800X which is also 6C/12T, and it retails for $389. I can't see them selling the 6C/12T Coffee Lake chip for the same, but they'll probably price it right at $349, using the logic that the 7800X is a more complex chip since it mates with the X299.

Coffee Lake is also going to use the Z370 board and a new version of LGA1151 that isn't compatible with Kaby Lake, effectively EOLing the Z270. If your current system can utilize it, however inefficiently, there's nothing stopping you from biting on the 1080Ti *now* and getting use out of it until Coffee Lake launches.

Theoretically you could 'skip the line' and get 6C/12T the first week of July with an X299 board (figure $250 for a base model board), 7800X ($389), and 4x8GB or 4x16GB of DDR4-3000 (~$250-500) because X299/Sky-X uses quad-channel memory...but it'd be damned expensive to do so.

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Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002
I often times speak without thinking

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Intel's evidently planning on Coffee Lake being out in August (engineering samples benchmarks are already leaking out, which is a good sign), which means plan for late August/early-to-mid September. Rumor has it that the CL i5s this time around may be 4C/8T parts, and the six-cores might come in a 6C/6T i5 SKU and a 6C/12T i7 SKU. The base-model Sky-X is the 7800X which is also 6C/12T, and it retails for $389. I can't see them selling the 6C/12T Coffee Lake chip for the same, but they'll probably price it right at $349, using the logic that the 7800X is a more complex chip since it mates with the X299.

Coffee Lake is also going to use the Z370 board and a new version of LGA1151 that isn't compatible with Kaby Lake, effectively EOLing the Z270. If your current system can utilize it, however inefficiently, there's nothing stopping you from biting on the 1080Ti *now* and getting use out of it until Coffee Lake launches.

Thanks for the advice. I'm justifying the high initial cost as a tax for being out of it for 7 years, and giving me an upgradable platform. So I think I'll stick with this and upgrade the CPU and mobo next year.


So much money

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

Jealous Cow posted:

Thanks for the advice. I'm justifying the high initial cost as a tax for being out of it for 7 years, and giving me an upgradable platform. So I think I'll stick with this and upgrade the CPU and mobo next year.


So much money

No worries - I'm honestly in the same boat as you, coming up on seven years with my own PC, but I've resigned myself to wait for *Cannonlake* instead, which is the CPU coming *after* Coffee Lake, hopefully around Q1'18. I am a bit cautious, though - I've been hearing a lot more about people's Sandys and Ivys "giving up the ghost" recently.

If I were forced to upgrade in short order I'd probably just go with a base-model Sky-X build with 32GB of RAM. I've got to do *everything* - pretty much the only thing I'll be able to grandfather to a new build will be the ML140 fans and Blu-Ray writer that I've used maybe 20 times in the past ~7 years. I don't even know if Thermalright makes an adapter for their original Silver Arrow to fit LGA2066, so that'd be another ~$80-120 for a new CPU cooler. =/

If it's possible, we should really amend the thread title to say "it's a really bad idea to build a computer right now, inquire within."

GoldenNugget
Mar 27, 2008



BIG HEADLINE posted:

If it's possible, we should really amend the thread title to say "it's a really bad idea to build a computer right now, inquire within."

So I guess I should wait for the new intel chips. Do we have a clear idea when the next Nvidia cards come out? Not finding a clear date and it seems like all the 1070s are gone because of cryptocurrency.

My 7 year old cpu and 4 year old gpu is getting long in the tooth and I wanna play ArmA 3 better...

A Bag of Milk
Jul 3, 2007

I don't see any American dream; I see an American nightmare.


GoldenNugget posted:

So I guess I should wait for the new intel chips. Do we have a clear idea when the next Nvidia cards come out? Not finding a clear date and it seems like all the 1070s are gone because of cryptocurrency.

My 7 year old cpu and 4 year old gpu is getting long in the tooth and I wanna play ArmA 3 better...

There's no release date information on new Nvidia stuff. But I'm right there with you. Was just playing Far Cry 1 on my 6 year old rig at ~55 FPS and it sounds like a hair dryer. The time is now, except I guess not.

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BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

GoldenNugget posted:

So I guess I should wait for the new intel chips. Do we have a clear idea when the next Nvidia cards come out? Not finding a clear date and it seems like all the 1070s are gone because of cryptocurrency.

My 7 year old cpu and 4 year old gpu is getting long in the tooth and I wanna play ArmA 3 better...

"Early 2018," supposedly. That's when GDDR6 will be ready. Plan on late Q1'18 to early/mid Q2.

The only thing that Cannonlake is offering over Coffee Lake is a 10nm process vs. 14nm - Cannonlake will also supposedly support the same new extensions that the Skylake-X does (AVX-512 and SHA), neither of which is really going to help gaming all that much, so don't let that hold you up if you're really jonesing for a new PC. We'll probably in about 2-3 weeks if they're going to make the rumored launch of late August/September-ish, hopefully from sources other than WCCFTech.

Speaking of which: http://wccftech.com/intels-coffee-l...-4-2-ghz-turbo/

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