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Eldercain posted:I just have auto train and boost filter to cube, both of which have been pretty nice qol. Improved filter is my next target, but from what I understand beard slots are very similar to acc slots: more is super better Improved loot filter is considered a must have and usually the first thing you get. Without it titans are a massive problem when you auto kill them overnight. Several later zones also have items you want to filter out for overnight. You want to leave boosts enabled, the recycle bonus isn't added when that happens, which is over a 50% increase, nevermind that you will need tens of millions for later sets so you will need auto boost while wearing the gear overnight to even make a dent in progressing them.
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Jul 12, 2018 17:42
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pixaal posted:Improved loot filter is considered a must have and usually the first thing you get. Without it titans are a massive problem when you auto kill them overnight. Several later zones also have items you want to filter out for overnight. You want to leave boosts enabled, the recycle bonus isn't added when that happens, which is over a 50% increase, nevermind that you will need tens of millions for later sets so you will need auto boost while wearing the gear overnight to even make a dent in progressing them. Yeah but I haven't spent any Kong bux so I went with some of the cheaper AP options. Now that I'm auto killing 3 Titans and hoarding sets with different specials and would still like to get the red potion etc I'm seeing the value. The boost recycle thing makes sense but I'm only at 2 slots into the second page so sometimes I'd rather pull items, I think once I max out spoopy boosts I'll get back on the challenge grind
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Jul 12, 2018 17:46
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something: I know this is incredibly stupid, given the fact that it is an Idle game, but could we get some sort of Pause button? I like to plan my 15/30/60 runs and not overshoot my Number from leaving the game running the entire day because I had to work or something like that. No need to make it a priority or anything, it's just a very specific broken brain issue.
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Jul 12, 2018 17:47
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A pause button would actually be a really involved thing to make, so i'm kinda "meh" on the prospect. Sorry for the bad response, but I still think you're cute.
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Jul 12, 2018 17:49
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It's alright, if I need to take another break I'll just leave it in a 24 Hour Challenge again 
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Jul 12, 2018 17:55
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SynthesisAlpha posted:Filter boosts into cube is excellent, and faster auto boost/merge is also important. I forgot I bought boost cube filter too, since it was cheap so I bought it a while ago. Sounds like it's worth picking up the faster auto boost/merge while it's on sale, then saving all my AP for beard slots forever. something posted:alternative opinion: You already got my  (or whatever your cut of it is) for the starter pack, that's already infinity times more than I've spent on any other idle game.
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Jul 12, 2018 17:56
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Samuringa posted:something: I know this is incredibly stupid, given the fact that it is an Idle game, but could we get some sort of Pause button? I like to plan my 15/30/60 runs and not overshoot my Number from leaving the game running the entire day because I had to work or something like that. It's actually beneficial to go over your number as you'll get more boss kills for that and the next few runs. You also get more titan kills. Also why are you doing 15 or 30 minute long runs? With how titans are 60 minute runs are very close in XP/hr but you also get Ygg, and beard progress which makes 60 minute runs superior. You should be aiming for 10 minute long runs, but even that is questionable. You probably want to do 5 minute runs or 60 minute runs and nothing between in 394, it's been this way since around Jake.
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Jul 12, 2018 18:11
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All my runs are at least a couple days. Idle game yknow?
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Jul 12, 2018 18:19
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Wait, you’re supposed to start with two beard slots when you unlock it? I purchased the exp beard slot shortly before unlocking beards and I’m 90% certain I only have two slots. I can’t check it until sometime tomorrow night but I’ll throw Something my save file then if it’s still 2. I would like to point out the AP store stopped me from buying a beard slot when they were on sale since I didn’t have beards unlocked yet, so I was pretty glad to buy the exp slot early 
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Jul 12, 2018 18:23
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pixaal posted:It's actually beneficial to go over your number as you'll get more boss kills for that and the next few runs. You also get more titan kills. I think what he's saying is that it's purely an OCD type issue where he doesn't derive satisfaction without manipulating his number in a very precise way. In other words, get some drugs and make your brain stop caring so you can play NGU better. Beard edit: (Beardit?) You get one beard slot to start, one from Troll Challenge, and 4 from AP. With the new beard there are still not enough slots to run every beard active. Which is fine because Beard Cage has such a tiny active bonus.
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Jul 12, 2018 18:25
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SynthesisAlpha posted:I think what he's saying is that it's purely an OCD type issue where he doesn't derive satisfaction without manipulating his number in a very precise way. There's one for XP, I run 7/7
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Jul 12, 2018 18:50
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I did not know when i pulled my loot face out of daycare he would turn into the monopoly man. I kind of want to kill him now.
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Jul 13, 2018 08:10
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Eldercain posted:I did not know when i pulled my loot face out of daycare he would turn into the monopoly man. I kind of want to kill him now. He has 3 stages of evolution. Do you like crowns more?
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Jul 13, 2018 11:37
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Hey, something, are there plans to add level 100 completion bonuses (bonii) for individual pieces like Dragon Wings or A Beanie or Stapler? Or am I just finishing these out of the same OCD that's made me always make sure every NGU ability has the same number of levels even if they're way past the diminishing returns point.
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Jul 13, 2018 13:00
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For now, OCD. In the future, who knows?
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Jul 13, 2018 14:38
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If I'm just getting started again in NGU, is it worth using the spreadsheet to see where to focus on?
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Jul 13, 2018 15:27
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What NGU spreadsheet are you guys referring to?
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Jul 13, 2018 17:45
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Don't use a spreadsheet, the math is too easy (or complicated) to bother. Just take power, multiply by 3.75, and thats how much cap you need (in 10,000s). The ratio of energy to magic doesn't have an easy relationship so just do whatever, but the ratio of power:cap is super simple.
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Jul 16, 2018 00:59
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I hear people bickering in chat all the time about 1:20k:1 vs 1:30k:1 vs 1:40k:1 for power/cap/bar ratio
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Jul 16, 2018 01:26
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Agent355 posted:Don't use a spreadsheet, the math is too easy (or complicated) to bother. Just take power, multiply by 3.75, and thats how much cap you need (in 10,000s). This all goes out the window in a speed run build. With a speed run you have to account for the added cost of bars to the cost of cap. This means you need way more power since generating 10,000 energy in under a minute is very expensive, and something you need to do for a 3 minute run to work.
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Jul 16, 2018 15:32
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I can't see any purpose to 3 minute runs. I can hit boss 25 within the first 3 minutes of a challenge, but even that XP*20 is crap compared to just autokilling titans on a day long run. Early game you wouldn't even get to where bosses give XP spamming 3 minute rebirths. I mean yeah you need to keep your bars so you can hit cap in a reasonable amount of time but 3 minutes is excessive.
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Jul 16, 2018 16:18
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SynthesisAlpha posted:I can't see any purpose to 3 minute runs. I can hit boss 25 within the first 3 minutes of a challenge, but even that XP*20 is crap compared to just autokilling titans on a day long run. 3 minute runs are very viable. I'm stable at boss 145 chaining 3 min runs, which is the shortest run time you can do. You build XP insanely quick, I net around 2000XP per 3 minute run, so 40,000XP/hr. Titans don't provide nearly enough XP to make good progress.
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Jul 16, 2018 16:51
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I'm going to assume that's running some kind of script. I can't imagine trying to maximize 3 minute runs manually for any length of time.
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Jul 16, 2018 17:09
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SynthesisAlpha posted:I'm going to assume that's running some kind of script. I can't imagine trying to maximize 3 minute runs manually for any length of time. I do it manually, ~2-3 hours per weekday. The rest of the day is 1 long run. I chose 1 minute not because it was mathmatically good, but because it let me focus on time machine for a minute then be done with it for the run and throw everything into wandoos to cap then the rest into aug (50/50 split between aug and upgrade because it's easy) and the rest of the magic goes into blood for NUMBER. This gives me 2 minutes to check on other idle games browse the forums and whatever else. Anything more complicated and it winds up in a huge mess.
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Jul 16, 2018 17:21
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SynthesisAlpha posted:I can't see any purpose to 3 minute runs. I can hit boss 25 within the first 3 minutes of a challenge, but even that XP*20 is crap compared to just autokilling titans on a day long run. Short runs become better xp/hour once you can sustain above boss 37 so that you have blood magic unlocked. If you're not sustaining at least boss 37, it's not worth it.
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Jul 16, 2018 17:43
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Unponderable posted:Short runs become better xp/hour once you can sustain above boss 37 so that you have blood magic unlocked. If you're not sustaining at least boss 37, it's not worth it. I'm not even sure that's easy to stay stable since gear scales up to boss 100. That's what I looked for when going from 5 minute to 3 minute runs. Way back when titan's didn't respawn the sweet spot seemed to be around boss 45-50. I wouldn't try speed runs for anything longer than a 10 minute run, 15 and 30 minute long runs seem to be barely better XP wise than an hour without AP, Ygg, or Bread progress, and you are getting less NGU progress as well. Just overall not worth it. Chaining 1h runs (assuming all no rebirths completed so all titans are 1h spawn) are pretty viable. You miss out on building large fruit, but that's not a major loss, same with the perm beard losses. The extra XP should make up for it, if you plan on chaining 1h runs you are going to have a very different build than someone chaining 3m runs. The end goal of all this XP farming is to build your NGU faster so you need to overcome whatever deficit you end up with. pixaal fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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Jul 16, 2018 17:53
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Yeah I guess the main factor to consider is all the stuff you're losing by speed running XP. Fruit of power and luck, adventure stats from fruit and a good iron pills buildip. Beard progress, NGU progress (although those get faster with XP investment) Personally I'm not going to devote that much time and attention to my idle games, so I'd rather run a slower burn that pushes all those factors up together rather than focusing solely on XP speedruns. Also if you're stable on boss 145 with 3 minute runs you're so far past most players that you're playing a different phase of the game.
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Jul 16, 2018 18:08
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Clicker Heroes 2 is releasing on Steam (or releasing as Early Access?) today. I gather that the game is using a buy-once business model instead of free with IAP. If anyone is planning a Day-1 purchase I'd be interested in seeing what's up
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Jul 16, 2018 18:14
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Cats Who Stare At Ghosts has come up before, but I've gotten back into it as something to wind down before bed. The mechanics unlock very slowly, but I've found that it's a good thing because it feels like a big deal each time. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.twofoldtales.catswhostareatghosts.android
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Jul 16, 2018 19:22
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Devor posted:Clicker Heroes 2 is releasing on Steam (or releasing as Early Access?) today. I gather that the game is using a buy-once business model instead of free with IAP. I grabbed it. Once I'm gone from work in a few hours I'll write up something.
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Jul 16, 2018 20:21
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Cats Who Stare At Ghosts has come up before, but I've gotten back into it as something to wind down before bed. Funny, I also recently played through it again. It's a perfect game for me to leave sitting at work and check when it's slow. Really good example of unfolding mechanics and shifting currency Dynamics that make for a good incremental. Plus every enemy has an alliterative name so it pleases my Inner Dad.
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Jul 16, 2018 20:45
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RG: Getting up to my first Ascension. I already got No Recruiting and Stoic Resistance, anything else I should try and get before I hit it? I'm at R35 right now.
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Jul 16, 2018 23:31
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Cats Who Stare At Ghosts has come up before, but I've gotten back into it as something to wind down before bed. The name of this game makes me uncomfortable because my cats used to do this all the time. What I'm saying is ghosts are fake but gently caress cats. (Installing now)
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Jul 17, 2018 00:16
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Eldercain posted:The name of this game makes me uncomfortable because my cats used to do this all the time. What I'm saying is ghosts are fake but gently caress cats. They were probably just staring at Something Strange.
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Jul 17, 2018 01:51
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Clicker Heroes 2 is just ok. It's still just as simple as the first. I'm only still playing it cause it's speedhackable. I was going to refund it if it wasn't.
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Jul 17, 2018 02:36
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(I'm sure I'm not the first person to post this, but gently caress it): I'm stuck at Realm Grinder R44 and feel like I'm doing something wrong. Running Dwelf, and I understand the recommendation is to unlock spell tiers to push past, but I can't even afford the tiers I've unlocked so far (CtA3, MB3, DP2, SS2). All I can think is I hosed up by A.) not getting Stoic Resistance back before Ascension, or B.) reincarnating before unlocking Holy Light's Tier 3.
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Jul 17, 2018 03:24
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Garfu posted:Clicker Heroes 2 is just ok. It's still just as simple as the first. I'm only still playing it cause it's speedhackable. I was going to refund it if it wasn't. I agree. It's pretty okay so far. I'm just about to ascend so hopefully it picks up and opens up more. The skill tree is pretty massive I'm curious to see how that all works. I would say save your money for now. You really aren't missing out on anything What speedhacks are you using?
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Jul 17, 2018 03:31
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When do I finally get to do a reset on Trimps? The in-game clock says I've been playing for 3 days and my progress has almost slowed to a crawl. I'm at Zone 24 and honestly don't know what do, aside from just waiting even more.
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Samuringa posted:When do I finally get to do a reset on Trimps? The in-game clock says I've been playing for 3 days and my progress has almost slowed to a crawl. I'm at Zone 24 and honestly don't know what do, aside from just waiting even more. You should have the Anger upgrade available, right? Buy it, and then finish the Dimension of Anger.
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