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Emron posted:That's worth a try since I'll be in R34 once I finish off Mercy. I need to leave titan running to get its last challenge (WHICH IS DUMB AS HELL BY THE WAY), but I need 5 days in Druid for other good researches. I'm conflicted. You'll also need 40 combined days in Faceless and Dragon with a minimum of 10 days in each (for Dragon challenge 3, and the dragon challenges are all really important to get ASAP once you unlock them). There are some major timesinks starting around R42 (7-10 days unlocking spell tiers, 10+ day dragon challenges, lineage unlocks, etc). I'm up to R74 right now, grinding away to R75 and unlocking undead lineage 15/leveling spell tiers for Night Time. Luckily, by R74 you're only looking at around 6 days to max out a given spell. If I had known about the Faceless requirement earlier, I'd have definitely spent some days idling as Faceless beforehand, since they're not a great faction until you've unlocked dragons. New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 17:43 on May 26, 2017 |
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Residual Toast posted:There's some bonus that reduces the real life faceless time required, but i forget what it is I don't think there's a bonus, it's just playing dragon+faceless counts double. You still need 40 combined days, but you can do it in 20.
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May 27, 2017 16:54
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Emron posted:I sat my rear end down and abdicated 900 times as soon as I hit R40 to get it based on the advice from earlier in the thread. You're not kidding about the boost! From R40 to R75, it's neutral factions exclusively. Titans to start, then Faceless. Dragons are just too good. Merc research seems to be shaking things up a bit, but I'm still not at a point where I can start playing with it. Although Merc research unlocks at R75, it's realistically not feasible to use until R76 or very late in R75 around the 100 Oc - 1 Novg gem mark.
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Len posted:Okay I'll give what changes in realm grinder? I didn't get far because it just feels like an adcap style buy buildings, get achievements, restart game. But you guys make it sound like it pulls a Candy Box and becomes something with more than that basic cycle. Is that the case? Not really. It just introduces additional mechanics, but the goal of the game is still "buy upgrades, make numbers bigger". It's just the way you accomplish that goal shifts. Vanilla Factions - the standard elf/demon/etc factions Neutral factions - introduces titan/faceless/druid Prestige factions - introduces dwarves (good) and drow (evil). These factions add-on to an existing chosen good or evil faction. So dwarf/angel or drow/undead Mercenaries - allows you to pick good/evil/neutral for the buildings, then pick upgrades and spells from any faction you want Bloodlines - Gives you an add-on bonus from any faction you want -- elf bloodline clicks automatically, etc. Chosen every abdictation Vanilla Research - Allows you to pick upgrades, 4+ per faction, to buff various things. Can only use vanilla factions, so prestige/neutral factions aren't used. Prestige research - Opens up research for dwarf/drow Neutral research - Opens up research for the neutral factions Prestige neutral faction - A big, long chain of events to unlock dragons, so you can add on to one of the neutral factions -- dragon/faceless Ascension - basically just a big number crunch. Makes some upgrades less powerful, others more powerful. Lineages - Upgrades to your bloodline faction, cost a ton of faction coins. Can unlock the spell of your bloodline. So having high undead lineage and undead bloodline will unlock the undead faction spell Mercenary research - Just hit this week, allows you to use research in combination with mercenaries
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That goes for a lot of things. Like the 1000/2000/5000/whatever assistant trophies and mana/spells cast trophies. Although having more trophies helps with some research, you'll come by many of them easily later on. For example, with undead lineage at R75, I currently have 170,000 assistants and mana regen of 115,000/s. If I could go back and change how I played, I'd have not spent a few days here and there trying to get those trophies, and instead idled as Faceless (or another neutral faction) because all of those have researches / challenge unlocks that require multiple days cumulative played.
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Emron posted:What was I thinking? I think you can do it at R46 as long as you don't mind waiting. The second and third steps are rough and take a few days each though. http://musicfamily.org/realm/NeutralPrestigeBuilds/
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I unlocked merc research and discovered at R75, it's not better at production than faceless/dragon. But it is good for unlocking lineages up to 20+, which helps faceless/dragon.
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Coca Koala posted:I'm working on r46 now, getting Hellfire Blast cast time to help my hatchling grow. That one you can buy after abdictating. The other ones you can't. I posted a link to unlock builds for them recently. They probably still work after the merc research update but may not as a bunch of researches were changed.
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Emron posted:I just unlocked dragons, and holy poo poo I have 20k mana regen now Wait until you hit 1m for the first time.
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Buzkashi posted:At least for a little bit, I'm trying not to spoil the Merc research unlock quests and going by what they say in-game. The first imperative is "build more structures" and I'm sitting at 124k waiting for Lightning Strike to hit my Halls so I can afford the quest, it's very old-school and reminds me of the good old days before that "LS always hits Halls" research. I think it's 150k buildings but with challenges that make buildings count extra it brings it down to around 125k.
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Jun 7, 2017 16:44
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Inadequately posted:On holiday at the moment and too tuckered out from travel to play anything more complex than a clicker, so I picked up Realm Grinder again. If I recall correctly, I just used diamond forge and/or moonshine. Those are slower but more consistent.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:33
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Emron posted:I...I think I actually need tier 3 spells next R. Thankfully, I will pick up T3 for CtA, GC, and SS (and probably brainwave) while the game's offline today. Yes. Once you get into merc research, buying T6 for all spells takes about 30 seconds, as does buying lineages up to 20.
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Buzkashi posted:Okay I have finally unlocked Merc Research and MOTHER OF GOD THIS OWNS. Don't forget to pick up the Know Your Enemy 2 artifact at R76 and to get all your lineages up to level 20. It's also worth noting that you can unlock a faction spell from the L15 perk when not using that lineage. For example, I completed the dwarf and angel (10k excavations and 8 hours god's hand uptime, respectively) spell perk challenges while using dragon lineage. Some of the challenges are bullshit that I don't foresee doing anytime soon though, like drow (30 days offline time) and demon (10 days HFB uptime in a single game). I wish they wouldn't keep putting huge timesinks like that in.
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AnonSpore posted:They're certainly impressive, but these unlock requirements are pretty unreal. They get lower every reincarnation. At R44, it takes about 16 days to unlock tier 6. By R77, it's down to 8 days. It's intended to be a time-sink so people don't immediately out-pace the next content and then complain that there's nothing to do. It drives me crazy, personally. I just wish they'd make it so it's cumulative, so if you've already unlocked T5, it only takes about ~3 days to get to R6 after a reincarnation, instead of taking the full 8 days all over again.
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Jaff posted:Picking RG back up after stopping it forever ago. About to hit ascension, is there anything in particular I should make sure I have done before that? Make sure all the challenges are unlocked for all the factions. Make sure all available research is unlocked. Make sure you got Iron Rush, Stoic Resistance, and Vanishment secret trophies, I think those are tough to get post-ascension for a while. Basically, get as many trophies as possible. Of course, if you're right at the end of R39, you missed your last chance to get Stoic Resistance. It's okay. You'll be able to get it no problem, but probably not until a bit later. There's nothing that's impossible to get post-ascension, but if you miss some things right now it may be a while before you can get it again.
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Klungar posted:Alright, I've plunged off the Ascension cliff and am now at R42. What do I need to know about going about unlocking Spell Tiers? Special research builds to accomplish this? Wait until later R? Wait. You'll unlock them as you go, and eventually you'll hit a point where you won't make any more progress without unlocking tiers. Once you get to T3 or so, it's worth waiting it out to get all the way to T6 unlocked, even if you have no way of affording it for a while. The time spent resets on reincarnation, so you'll just have to wait 3+ days to get back to where you were before reincarnation. CtA/SS you'll get eventually no matter what, so don't worry about them. Gem Grinder you'll get because you're going to be using entirely titan and faceless for a while. Dragon's Breath, same thing as above. The most important ones after that are going to be (roughly in order): Brainwave -- You'll be using faceless/dragon builds up into R80+ for sure. Night Time -- Same as above, but this will start to come into play once you unlock lineages. Undead is the best production lineage until R75 or so Grand Balance/God's Hand -- Merc research builds use these starting around R76.
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Emron posted:Undead lineage has me rolling through Rs, I'm going to get to 75 before I even unlock Night Time, I think. I hope I'm not jinxing myself by saying that. Undead lineage 15 becomes more or less required by 75. There's a big gem wall around the Sxvg-Spvg mark.
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Emron posted:Yikes. Are there any recommended lineage-leveling builds? I've only got it at 8. My knowledge isn't necessarily accurate because I did UL15 before merc research, which took a while. If you can make the push to merc research, getting all lineages to 20 is trivial. At R82, getting them all to 25 is trivial. I got up to R75 with T5 spells, including Night Time. T6 spells but no Night Time might be equivalent or even superior to what I was using.
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Coca Koala posted:For Dragon challenge 2, it says I need Dragon Bloodline. You need to take the bloodline, A400 doesn't count.
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I just finished R82 and unlocked the Geneologist secret trophy (300 total points in lineages, although realistically that means 'all lineages at L25'). That helps quite a bit with breaking through the Undead/Faceless Spvg -> 10 Ocvg wall. I'm at about 1.5 hours into R83 and I'm pretty close to hitting Merc research.
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ijzer posted:i personally found early merc research underwhelming enough that i just pushed through to r77 with faceless. merc research is expensive enough that until the early-mid 80s you probably won't be able to afford them at e88, try e89 or e90. Yeah, merc research isn't great without GH6 and GB6.
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frankenbeans posted:I'm at r87 now, and I go faceless from e40-e70, then a better faceless from e70-e89. Then one run with Pagan Lizards to e90/91, a quick run for GB11 then to the Rastan build 82+. Now I'm trying to get the hang of the FUDG build, which is fiddly and sucks. You should be able to use a single faceless build the whole time. Just excavate for faction coins to buy undead lineage once you affiliate with dragons. I just use this one: S135,S215,S250,S305,S330,S1450,S1500, C250,C330,C340,C400,C1300,C1325, D55,D245,D260,D320,D1125,D1275,D1375, E135,E145,E350,E460,E1225,E1425, A105,A120,A150,A250,A305,A400, W150,W180,W275,W290,W400,W1375
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Emron posted:Once I'm into merc research territory (R76 right now), is it supposed to slow waaaaaay the gently caress down from e84-e88 gems? I'm using the faceless build that needs you to excavate to unlock the undead lineage. It's still slow even at R87. A reincarnation looks like this for me: Titan/dragon from 0 - 1 No, which takes < 30 minutes Faceless dragon from 1 No to 10 Ocvg, with a slowdown around 1 Spvg that takes a few hours to get through Offline GB11 unlock build to get 10 billion mana, takes an hour or so Merc R82+ build, which starts to stall out around the 1 Sxtg mark but is very fast up to that point Now I'm grinding Fairy Chanting and Holy Light to T6 for the R87+ build, so I'm going to be on R87 for another 5 days or so.
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Ineptitude posted:I am not even able to align to a faction before the 5 minutes are over) That's what excavations are for.
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Emron posted:Are there any truly useless researches? I feel like the "boost production for all buildings except your most productive one" has no use, maybe some niche interaction with grand balance? Some quick scripting gives me the following stats: No builds on musicfamily.org use: S10 S270 S435 E495 A1 A251 A480 A545 A590 W50 S2875 D3350 I would have expected more to be totally unused. And here are the stats for the researches that ARE used, from most to least popular. code:code:New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Ineptitude posted:So R43 is very slow, compared to R40->42 and aparently i need to get my spell tiers up. There's a table here: http://realm-grinder.wikia.com/wiki/Spells You need that much uptime in one reincarnation to unlock that tier. It's per each spell. Then it's permanently unlocked, you just need to buy it. For where you're at, you'll want T6 Call To Arms, Spirtual Surge, Brainwave, Dragon's Breath, Gem Grinder. You'll also eventually want Night Time, Fairy Chanting, Holy Light, Grand Balance and God's Hand. But those aren't immediately important. Each reincarnation drops the unlock requirements a little bit. So getting tier 3 at R42 takes roughly 3 days, 4 hours. At 72, it's 1 day, 17 hours. I kept pushing reincarnations until I hit a wall where I needed tiers. Common sense says that if you unlock T2, you might as well push it to T6 even if you can't afford it -- you're going to have to wait the full length of time when you do eventually need T6. And you will eventually need T6. New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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AnonSpore posted:If you unlock a spell tier, do you have to actually buy the upgrade before reincarnating for it to register? Like say I unlocked tiers 2, 3, and 4 in one reincarnation. I bought 2 and 3 but couldn't buy 4 for the first time and then reincarnated. Do I have to unlock tier 4 all over again? No. Unlocks are immediate and permanent even if you don't buy them.
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Emron posted:Holy poo poo, I just tried a GB11 build for the first time and I have 5 loving million mana regen. Too bad it's wasted if it's in excess of your max mana unless you go offline.
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GrossMurpel posted:Is Equality really that vital? It's just a 100% increase, right? A 100% increase is huge.
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Gilg posted:Another RG question. In some builds, e.g. the R27-R29 builds here: http://musicfamily.org/realm/ResearchBuilds/ , they differentiate "buildup" versus "production". What's the difference? Build-up is to buff researches/spells that go off of things like spells cast or faction coins gathered. Tax collection is cheap and thus you can cast more with the same amount of mana. It also produces faction coins. So you're building up researches keyed to those factors. Then production is to take full advantage of the built-up researches. A really common one later is S400 -- it increases max mana based on the total number of spells cast in a single game. It's common to build that up with a build specifically around goblins and S50, which makes each spell you cast also cast a certain number of tax collections. So you can easily get millions of spells cast, and thus a larger value for S400.
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junan_paalla posted:I'm mopping up missing trophies and researches before ascending, any tips on getting the evil/neutral 5k buildings trophies? Get the ones you can with unique building cost reduction research and (sloooowly) bruteforce the rest? Or my neutral and evil builds just suck rear end? You will routinely have 20k+ of each building with zero effort later on. I wouldn't put an undue amount of effort into getting them.
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Buzkashi posted:With the Trimps update I wanted to scope it out but it turns out my save got deleted somehow. I forgot how utterly agonizing the first one or two runs are so I export-modified a billion helium in (roughly where I was before?) and it's been actually pretty fun doing challenges and building things back up a bit. Oh, good. That's encouraging me to continue with it. I just portaled for the first time yesterday and it's pretty painful.
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Speaking of spell tiers, I hit a wall at R90 a week or so ago so I decided to unlock up to T6 on all spells as a lark. I just started the last 3, only 6 days to go!
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Mr. Peepers posted:(since it lets me get my fix at work, which Trimps does not) Chrome Remote Desktop
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TrimpsChat: I'm at around 40k helium and I've done all of the unlocked challenges so far. I find that I stall out around zone 60-64 -- the cost of upgrades is too high for my production, and I'm too far behind in coordination to make up for it. Is it worth it to do some Challenge^2s, or just keep running up to my wall and collecting the 4-6k helium until I can pump up perks enough to push to zone 70 for the next challenge? Or should I just commit to a 3-5 day run and keep pushing?
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Sage Grimm posted:What's your warpstation + gigastation upgrade like? Because you shouldn't be stalling that badly unless you really mucked up your perk set. I was trying to follow the general rule of buying 5, then 6, then 7, etc, but I found it didn't help much because I'm so far behind in coordination and upgrades, since upgrades take a lot of farming just to buy one. I've been using the Perky tool to allocate perks, so I think I'm okay there. 20 points in carpentry, 28 in looting, etc. I think the last few runs I've been messing up because I looked purely at the cost of level 0 warpstation and thinking "It's more efficient to buy 2 or 3 collectors" instead of thinking "I should be getting more warpstations/gigastations". New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Jul 28, 2017 |
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goferchan posted:speaking of trimps what should i be pushing for perks if i'm a little baby with around 10k helium and stalling out around 50? artisanship? I've been using Perky: https://grimy.github.io/perks.html
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Not Al-Qaeda posted:lol wtf, RG: im on r3 and theres that first mercenary upgrade that says i t gets more expensive over time. i bought it but the only thing it unlocked was the ability to buy 1 other upgrade thats A LOOT more expensive?? what the h*ck was the point of buying it The point of buying it was to unlock the second upgrade. Buying that upgrade permanently unlocks mercenaries.
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I've been playing Trimps for a while, and I'm just about to break the zone 180 barrier for the first time. I have about 50m helium. What's my best course of action? 1) Keep running Nom for helium/hr (I get about 600-650k) until I can do #2 or #3 more easily 2) Push into Corruption for Masteries 3) Do a max-tox run and then spending my accrued 300ish bones. I have all the exotic imp-orts. 4) Do the Watch challenge that unlocks at 180? Max tox, as my understanding goes, involves running the Toxicity challenge, but from every zone from 60 to challenge completion, letting Toxicity stack up to 1500 before finishing to get roughly double the helium, then tripling that when the challenge ends. This seems like it would take a few days -- I haven't done the math, but it would boost the portal value up to something around 6 million helium, and I'd be able to do it 3 (maybe 4) times for a pretty big boost. New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Sindai posted:Farming for masteries always comes at the expense of He/hr and the early ones don't really do much but if you feel like breaking up the tedium of farming helium, go for it. I just started using AutoTrimps a few days ago because I reached the point where I felt like I was making no progress on my own. Actually, on the subject, I see there are a number of presets for perk allocation, but no explanation of what the presets are, when they're appropriate, or what their goal is. Any advice on that front? Thanks for the advice, I just started a Toxicity run to see what the he/hr looks like. If it looks pretty good and completes reasonably fast, I'll do a max-tox from 100. New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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