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shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

tfw Dragon Lee breaks the Hiromu before you get another turn

hey cmon

I like Rickey Shane Page

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Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

yahallo


he's got his appeal

Draxion
Jun 9, 2013




I saw RSP as a whiskey baron who tormented the other wrestlers on the show with the help of crooked cop Dick Justice before being brought down by the valiant "Orange" Julius Cassidy once so I think he's good actually.

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008

HUSS
HUSS
HUSS


RSP is at least a good guy/not a cringey edgelord unlike Havoc

It's just gonna suck when Shlak, Marcus Crane, and Jimmy Lloyd get booked because those guys aren't that good.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.


I never understand the Nick Gage thing because I've seen basically nothing of his comeback and current run except for him nearly killing Arquette, so my whole idea of Gage is from old CZW where he just came off like the biggest piece of poo poo tool in a place that basically prided itself on being filled with piece of poo poo tools. Like if I'm remembering right even on guest commentary he'd just consistently storm off after having some random meltdown and be unable to say three sentences without dropping a slur or something.

I believe in reform so like I'm totally open to the idea that he got his poo poo together and people enjoy his act. I'm also open to the theory that it was all an elaborate act he just lived all the way to prison back then. But all I can picture when people talk about Gage is that tool from CZW who I thought was only tolerable when tagging with "the good" brother.

Tomahawk
Aug 12, 2003

HE KNOWS


Nick Gage is definitely doing the only job heís capable of

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008

HUSS
HUSS
HUSS


Gage is an anti-authority folk hero with a dangerous aura to him but who is incredibly there for his fans and happy about people supporting him and apparently a real good dude now that he's sober.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


STAC Goat posted:

I never understand the Nick Gage thing because I've seen basically nothing of his comeback and current run except for him nearly killing Arquette, so my whole idea of Gage is from old CZW where he just came off like the biggest piece of poo poo tool in a place that basically prided itself on being filled with piece of poo poo tools. Like if I'm remembering right even on guest commentary he'd just consistently storm off after having some random meltdown and be unable to say three sentences without dropping a slur or something.

I believe in reform so like I'm totally open to the idea that he got his poo poo together and people enjoy his act. I'm also open to the theory that it was all an elaborate act he just lived all the way to prison back then. But all I can picture when people talk about Gage is that tool from CZW who I thought was only tolerable when tagging with "the good" brother.

His brother is a much bigger actual tool than Gage.

Nick Gage had a horrible drug problem, went to prison and got out at a time when people are increasingly seeing the drug war and prison industrial complex for what they are. Fans see a super charismatic guy like Gage who kills themselves for the fans and tells the fans they love him and like him. Because how can you not at least respect that a little when a guy kills himself for you and tells you he is doing it all for you and loves you?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016
Congrats to Bix on his fav character King K Rool getting into smash!

coconono posted:

Gageís best match was against Greshem on one of the powerbomb shows. Tiny little octopus man vs rampaging monster convict is something out of a comic book.
That was on the "Wazzup" show and it was really good, yes.

His Beyond and AIW stuff will probably give you the most looks for him, because they're two different types of non-deathmatch indies where he does a good bit of non-deathmatch stuff but is a regular who is as over as anyone there.

Big Dave
Nov 6, 2009

Friends don't shake hands, friends gotta hug!

my key pre-robbery nick gage memory was him and his brother dangerously throwing necro butcher face first over the top rope onto the floor on a czw show and hearing necro's head thump off the concrete in the arena

post-release, gage is easily the most charismatic guy on the indies, with the aforementioned dangerous aura, folk hero persona, and legitimate appreciation for the fans, and probably the best brawler outside of mexico, deathmatch or not

basically all his matches in beyond have ruled, his tacks match against g-raver especially owned, and his commentary on the david starr/joey janela deathmatch with matt tremont was really good and endearing.

i honestly can't get over how great that gcw show on saturday was though. it was my first live deathmatch show and it's like why bother with any other wrestling ever again, holy poo poo. why isn't alex colon the biggest name in the world? also the tease with lloyd, gage, shlak, crane, etc at the end of the show, i didn't think the guys with records would be able to work japan?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016
Congrats to Bix on his fav character King K Rool getting into smash!

MassRafTer posted:

Nick Gage had a horrible drug problem, went to prison and got out at a time when people are increasingly seeing the drug war and prison industrial complex for what they are. Fans see a super charismatic guy like Gage who kills themselves for the fans and tells the fans they love him and like him. Because how can you not at least respect that a little when a guy kills himself for you and tells you he is doing it all for you and loves you?
This too, and I'll add that the stuff about loving the fans isn't shtick. There are few wrestlers who are more giving with their time to fans after shows than Gage, who is basically in Matt Riddle territory as far as that goes, but often isn't even selling gimmicks.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

The greatest Wrestling Twitter Champion of all time


https://twitter.com/MLW/status/1097180963996684288

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

We All Live In Kawalimus' House


you've done it again, mate. that Link leads to pornography.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

I bet against K-1


pre-robbery Nick Gage cut a promo while dying. Like legit, his eyes were going glassy and he passed out for a second during the promo.

Post-jail, he came back jacked, clear headed and did great business on his return for multiple feds. Meng even requested a rematch with him because the tag they did was so much fun. I'm pretty sure pre-robbery Gage would have been murdered by Meng.

I dunno, I gotta give some respect to a dude that nearly loving died for my entertainment and is making the most of his opportunities.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.

he knows...


Nick Gage is what Dean Ambrose wishes he could be.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.


Bigass Moth posted:

Nick Gage is what Dean Ambrose wishes he could be.

Not in WWE?

exploded mummy
Sep 10, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

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Nap Ghost

Bigass Moth posted:

Nick Gage is what Dean Ambrose wishes he could be.

a convicted felon?

Sticky Nate
Jan 9, 2012



exploded mummy posted:

a convicted felon?

cool

Mob
May 6, 2002

I wanted to change my avatar but I didn't have a good title so I wanted to say suck it hot dogs are sandwiches


Highspots put up an alternate commentary show wit Gymnastys and the first match is Ambrose/Drake/Gage and they spend the whole match talking about how much money Drake has now and he doesn't have to break light bulbs with his dick anymore

Jenkem Delivery
Feb 8, 2005

Death created time to grow the things that it would kill

Nick Gage overcame the three of the most corrupt and evil capitalist systems in America (Healthcare, Justice, Prison) and gets to make a living doing something he is extremely passionate about. If you can't respect that you're a loving cop and need to stay in the WWE thread

exploded mummy
Sep 10, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick


Nap Ghost

Jenkem Delivery posted:

Nick Gage overcame the three of the most corrupt and evil capitalist systems in America (Healthcare, Justice, Prison) and gets to make a living doing something he is extremely passionate about. If you can't respect that you're a loving cop and need to stay in the WWE thread

he robbed a bank and got narced out by wrestling fans

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007


Buglord

I met Nick Gage at a bar in New Orleans mania weekend, and he seemed like a normal cool dude.

Jenkem Delivery
Feb 8, 2005

Death created time to grow the things that it would kill

He did it to feed his addiction to the opiate pain medication that American doctors have been giving out like candy for years (like so many others). The guy paid his debt to society.

exploded mummy
Sep 10, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick


Nap Ghost

Jenkem Delivery posted:

He did it to feed his addiction to the opiate pain medication that American doctors have been giving out like candy for years (like so many others). The guy paid his debt to society.

no i was poi timg int if you're going to praise him for beating capitalist services why not the banks

Jenkem Delivery
Feb 8, 2005

Death created time to grow the things that it would kill

exploded mummy posted:

no i was poi timg int if you're going to praise him for beating capitalist services why not the banks

Excellent point!

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

I bet against K-1


exploded mummy posted:

he robbed a bank and got narced out by wrestling fans

well he robbed the bank dressed in his wrestling gear

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004



Fun Shoe

exploded mummy posted:

he robbed a bank and got narced out by wrestling fans
hosed up that wrestling fans are cop callers imo

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

tfw Dragon Lee breaks the Hiromu before you get another turn

coconono posted:

well he robbed the bank dressed in his wrestling gear

lmao I know, he rules

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

still a threat


If you donít think robbing a bank is cool as hell youíre more than invited to come eat my rear end

Phenix Rising
Oct 24, 2005

TOUGH GUUUUUY


When I first asked my question, I was just curious as to why anybody was excited to watch a Nick Gage match because all the ones I've seen have been boring and not very good. I'll check out the recommendations from some folks in the thread and see what's up!

I'm not crapping on his personal life or any triumphs he's overcome, or how much he loves the fans Ė I'm just bored by him when he's in the ring. I assume I'd feel different if I followed his career at all before this latest resurgence.

I will say, he got a room full of people to yell "gently caress SAMI CALLIHAN" over the weekend and for that I applaud him.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.

he knows...


NienNunb posted:

If you donít think robbing a bank is cool as hell youíre more than invited to come eat my rear end

Robbing a bank like Heat = very cool.

Robbing a bank in your wrestling gear to feed your addiction to opiates = thatís not cool.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

yahallo


Phenix Rising posted:

When I first asked my question, I was just curious as to why anybody was excited to watch a Nick Gage match because all the ones I've seen have been boring and not very good. I'll check out the recommendations from some folks in the thread and see what's up!

I'm not crapping on his personal life or any triumphs he's overcome, or how much he loves the fans Ė I'm just bored by him when he's in the ring. I assume I'd feel different if I followed his career at all before this latest resurgence.

I will say, he got a room full of people to yell "gently caress SAMI CALLIHAN" over the weekend and for that I applaud him.

the irony of nick gage is he works too light for his straight-ahead matches to be particularly compelling outside of his charisma. where he excels is deathmatches and authentic promos

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.


Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money


I wanna see rush vs Nick Gage

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE


Low Desert Punk posted:

I wanna see LA Park vs Nick Gage

Draxion
Jun 9, 2013





AIW's Hell on Earth 14 from November has you covered.

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE


Draxion posted:

AIW's Hell on Earth 14 from November has you covered.

Holy poo poo, I had no idea. Gonna look that up right now, thanks for the heads up!

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006
TUBGIRL ENTHUSIAST

One day thereíll be a kickstarter with a reward tier that has Nick Gage robbing you in your workplace.

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

It's going to happen this year; it's what we're going to do. We're going to win the NL Central.

Pillbug

Low Desert Punk posted:

I wanna see rush vs Nick Gage

No Pasa Nada is just Spanish for MDK if you squint.

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Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



i wanna see loving tajiri vs pentagon

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