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Levitate posted:Yeah, sounds like he just didn't meet expectations, has been playing a bit overweight, and also probably getting killed for not living up to expectations. From all accounts he's still a fantastic skater with very good size and strength, but perhaps the offense isn't where people expected and his development wasn't what people expected. The knock on him is that he doesn't take it seriously and has a piss work ethic. See: showing up overweight as a junior. He's a guy who was allegedly a "do not draft" for a lot of teams.
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Jun 25, 2016 17:19
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Chicago gets deBrincat with the Habs pick? Fuuuuuuck offfffff
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yellowcar posted:Chicago gets deBrincat with the Habs pick? Fuuuuuuck offfffff Please control your rage... for when the habs trade Subban to the hawks
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Jun 25, 2016 17:21
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Linus Hogberg, I can't even begin to express how happy I am with the player names the Flyers have drafted this year
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All Tampa Bay Lightning fans can line up here to ask me questions about 37th overall pick Libor "That Idiot Libor" Hajek
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Ducks fans: Legendary RCMP officer/colonising rat bastard turned young hockey phenom Sam Steel is a fun little waterbug out there. He reminds me of Eberle, maybe only because he is the best Pat since that gap toothed fuckface. Not as good a shot, but also plays more with the puck than Ebs did. He is a smooth skater and sees the ice well. He also weighs like 90 pounds and will be utterly destroyed if he doesn't bulk up. I think I had on these forums as Eberle being a 30-30-60 guy when he was drafted. I don't think Steel sees the show until he stops having the body of a 13 year old swimmer and I'm not sure he has the same ceiling as Eberle but he will probably also have a smoother 200 foot game if his hockey IQ and skating keeps up. The stickarts pledge has his peak around 20-30-50. He and Getzlaf can share stories about cruising Albert Street looking for babes.
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I thought if a prospect went unsigned (like Bleakley), he could just sign with whomever? Did the Blues draft him to guarantee that he'd be in their organization?
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yellowcar posted:Both 2016 2nds for Shaw. Man. I really wanted the Habs to take Pu. F u bergevin. t I like the Bitten puck because the english media can make bad puns The french media would have just spouted Pu-Ri over and over
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oilers last pick a 20 year old ncaa rd whos 6'6 and scored 2 points last year cant teach that
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Mike_V posted:I thought if a prospect went unsigned (like Bleakley), he could just sign with whomever? Did the Blues draft him to guarantee that he'd be in their organization? http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/rules/ this came up in google. i'd just assume that because they drafted him and nobody made a stink about it then he wasn't a ufa. the only interesting thing in there is that if goes unsigned again then he's a ufa
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fits posted:oilers last pick a 20 year old ncaa rd whos 6'6 and scored 2 points last year in 2009 the devils used a sixth rounder to draft a 19-year-old winger who posted a 4-point, 111 PIM statline in the Q. a year later he was playing junior A hockey. a year after that he put up 0 points and 84 PIM in the LNAH.
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Poonerman posted:in 2009 the devils used a sixth rounder to draft a 19-year-old winger who posted a 4-point, 111 PIM statline in the Q. a year later he was playing junior A hockey.
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Poonerman posted:in 2009 the devils used a sixth rounder to draft a 19-year-old winger who posted a 4-point, 111 PIM statline in the Q. a year later he was playing junior A hockey. career goon
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Poonerman posted:in 2009 the devils used a sixth rounder to draft a 19-year-old winger who posted a 4-point, 111 PIM statline in the Q. a year later he was playing junior A hockey. From what I've heard, 84PIMs in the LNAH is a really low number.
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The Canucks had a lousy draft and I am not at all enamored with Juleovi. Just so y'all know.
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Schlesische posted:From what I've heard, 84PIMs in the LNAH is a really low number. he washed out after 16 games. no record of him playing hockey since!
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So Ive been busy and missed all the excitement. Did any team do anything stupid other than maybe Columbus taking PL Dubois 3rd? e: Oh poo poo Chicago basically traded Shaw for DeBrincat? Cool.
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Hand Knit posted:The Leafs are having what looks to be a not very encouraging draft. After Matthews, a whole lot of big guys and overagers. Would have liked to see them go for more upside, for sure. Not really liking how off-board they've been going with their high 2nds the last couple of drafts. Still, Nielsen was an unheralded big guy that got panned as a pick last year, now turning into one of the org's better D prospects. Much as I would have preferred Mascherin/Girard/Abramov I don't know how strong I should rally be feeling about it.
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Koopa Kid posted:Would have liked to see them go for more upside, for sure. Not really liking how off-board they've been going with their high 2nds the last couple of drafts. That's the thing with this. You can feel real strongly about a pick, and sometimes fuckups are really obvious (Jankowski going too early, Tyler Biggs going at all, etc), but mostly a) we're not full time scouts b) where someone is picked influences how they are developed c) a huge part of this is just luck. So like there are things I can be mad at, like how last year Ottawa passed twice on Konecny, but at the end of the day I really thought MPS was going to be a superstar, and I thought Cuma was a real safe pick the year Ottawa took Karlsson, so what the gently caress do I know.
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ThinkTank posted:The Canucks had a lousy draft and I am not at all enamored with Juleovi. Just so y'all know. I was expecting the Habs to get Juolevi rather than Sergachev. I wished Buffalo didn't take Nylander though. That would've been my ideal outcome.
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Past Tkachuk and Ty Parsons, I'm not too thrilled about the Flames draft, unless somebody can sell me on Dillon Dube. Calgary drafted a couple enormous dudes with zero skill late in the game, not happy about it. loving Burke.
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Coyotes made 4 total picks this year. At least they did well in the 1st round...
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Flyers did real good this year. They addressed the lack of forward prospects pretty well and grabbed guys who should fit well in Hakstol's forecheck heavy offence. Also as much as Homer drive me nuts as GM, he's always been a terrific amateur scout.
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darkwolf220 posted:Coyotes made 4 total picks this year. At least they did well in the 1st round... Cam Dineen seems offensively talented, at least, as does Pat Kudla. I'll take a flyer on guys with good stats who might flame out and might not over walking coke machines every goddamned time.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Past Tkachuk and Ty Parsons, I'm not too thrilled about the Flames draft, unless somebody can sell me on Dillon Dube. Calgary drafted a couple enormous dudes with zero skill late in the game, not happy about it. loving Burke. You got Matthew Phillips, the WHL ROTY, as a steal in the 6th round because he's small. Balances out I think.
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Jordan7hm posted:The knock on him is that he doesn't take it seriously and has a piss work ethic. See: showing up overweight as a junior. He's a guy who was allegedly a "do not draft" for a lot of teams. I've also seen people say one reason for his poor work ethic is his family went through some poo poo recently and he was pre-occupied with that. He's also apparently done a much better job getting in shape lately. Main thing seems to be whether the work ethic issues are behind him or if he's just a fuckup
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toe knee hand posted:You got Matthew Phillips, the WHL ROTY, as a steal in the 6th round because he's small. Balances out I think. Jesus, he's Theo Fleury level small. Usually works out well for the Flames though. Thanks for pointing this out, though.
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darkwolf220 posted:Coyotes made 4 total picks this year. At least they did well in the 1st round... You did trade for an anti-gay superstar, that'll get the conservatives in Arizona fired up for hockey.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Past Tkachuk and Ty Parsons, I'm not too thrilled about the Flames draft, unless somebody can sell me on Dillon Dube. Calgary drafted a couple enormous dudes with zero skill late in the game, not happy about it. loving Burke. I actually really liked the draft results. We took a wide range of player types and skillsets. 6th - Tkachuk, exactly who I was hoping for but assumed it was a pipe dream. Could be a perfect complimentary player to Bennett. 54th - Tyler Parsons. Winning goalie from the Memorial Cup, why not? 56th - Dillon Dube. Skilled and small... but McKenzie had him 37th and Button 28th. 66th - Adam Fox. Smart defenceman who was just named the top Dman at the U-18 tourney. Probably would have been a 1st rounder if he was a few inches taller. Craig Button had him ranked 38th. 96th - Linus Lindstrom. Don't know much of him but our Swedish scout was losing his mind over this kid apparently. 126th - Mitch Mattson. A high potential type of player. Apparently thought to be comparable to Tufte who went 25th. "Red Line’s man in Minnesota is starting to feel that Grand Rapids pivot Mitchell Mattson has the same upside, if not moreso, than Tufte." Craig Button had him 37th. 156th - Eetu Tuulola. Awesome name... but also a big RW powerforward type of player. Who knows. 166th - Matthew Phillips. As mentioned he was the WHL rookie of the year but tiny. 5'7" 145, but looks like Gaudreau out there. Craig Button had him ranked 33rd! 186th - Stepan Falkovsky. Overager 6'7" dman. Apparently he's far from the Kanzig/Breen mold though. Flames liked him last year but he got hurt, actually put up good numbers and was great in the WJC for Belarus. Corey Pronman gave the Flames an A- http://i.imgur.com/Mg9j6o1.png TeamJesus fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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ThinkTank posted:The Canucks had a lousy draft and I am not at all enamored with Juleovi. Just so y'all know. It would've been great to have Tkachuk who could play right away and have something exciting to watch this season. Won't they be sticking Juelovi on the farm for a couple years?
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ThinkTank posted:The Canucks had a lousy draft and I am not at all enamored with Juleovi. Just so y'all know. I'm starting to feel really bad for Canucks fans. I mean Sweeney is bad, but he's made ok moves too. Benning is just...wow
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Kritzkrieg Kop posted:It would've been great to have Tkachuk who could play right away and have something exciting to watch this season. Tkachuk will probably be down in London again this year too, he still has a lot be could learn about defense and playing as the teams 'top guy'
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Kritzkrieg Kop posted:It would've been great to have Tkachuk who could play right away and have something exciting to watch this season. Even though Juolevi is a finn, he was drafted from the CHL and i don't think he's on loan from Jokerit so normal CHL-rules apply to him, aka. he can't be assigned to AHL until the season he turns 20.
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Jordan7hm posted:That's the thing with this. You can feel real strongly about a pick, and sometimes fuckups are really obvious (Jankowski going too early, Tyler Biggs going at all, etc), but mostly My favourite is still people's reactions to Montreal drafting Price 5th. Or, like you, picking Kadri over MPS.
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Hiekkakauppias posted:Even though Juolevi is a finn, he was drafted from the CHL and i don't think he's on loan from Jokerit so normal CHL-rules apply to him, aka. he can't be assigned to AHL until the season he turns 20. Players selected in the CHL import draft are eligible for the AHL straight away once they sign a pro contract. Julius Honka went to the Texas Stars at 18 under similar circumstances.
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Twin Cinema posted:My favourite is still people's reactions to Montreal drafting Price 5th. I was still right about Cowen being a bad pick though.
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ThinkTank posted:Players selected in the CHL import draft are eligible for the AHL straight away once they sign a pro contract. I think Honka was eligible because he had a contract with Jyp but was just on loan in CHL. I could be wrong (i often am).
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Hiekkakauppias posted:I think Honka was eligible because he had a contract with Jyp but was just on loan in CHL. I could be wrong (i often am). Yeah, I think this is correct and Juolevi is stuck with the normal CHL restrictions.
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Thufir posted:Yeah, I think this is correct and Juolevi is stuck with the normal CHL restrictions. You are correct. Both were selected in the CHL import draft so I figured both were eligible. Dang, oh well. Still, he needs another year of junior regardless.
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