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May 20, 2016 00:39
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May 20, 2016 05:21
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Supply G5. (Sorry to keep y'all waiting)
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May 20, 2016 20:20
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Supply J5.
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May 20, 2016 20:41
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 Setup complete! I've hidden the starting dots for ease of reading the PBP map. They're not used for anything else. Active Card (resolves this turn): Radiation C5 & K2 Next Card (resolves next turn): Radiation B4 & K7 Sinewave, it's your turn. STARVATION: Ignored on each player's first turn. ACTION: Sinewave, please take 4 actions!
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May 20, 2016 20:49
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 G5 ATTACK H6 - US soldier attacks USSR soldier (eliminating both). Hex G7 (ties for nearest dirty hex with others 2 hexes away) becomes DEAD as a side effect of the attack. (Some commie dead man's switch or something, because obv we're not using forbidden unstable weapons or anything) F6 CIV MOVE TO G5 - Civvie joins the other civvie at supply depot. G5 THREATEN H6 -> H7 - Two US civvies (not adjacent to enemy soldiers) threaten single USSR civvie to move to adjacent, non-dead hex. E1 SOLDIER MOVE TO F2 - US soldier leaves the coast to join US civvie at supply depot. The Eyes Have It fucked around with this message at 21:38 on May 20, 2016 |
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May 20, 2016 21:36
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 Active Card: B4 & K7 Next Card: H8 & L4, plus Refugee J1 USSR STARVATION: Ignored on each player's first turn. ACTION: Tricky, how will you answer this capitalist aggression?
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May 20, 2016 22:09
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This affront to the motherland cannot stand. Civilian K2 -> Move to K3. Soldier K3 -> Move to K4. Soldier, 2x Civilian K4 -> Move to J4. Soldier, 1x Civilian J4 -> Move to H5.
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May 20, 2016 23:16
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 Active Card: H8 & L4, plus Refugee J1 Next Card: G1 & K4, plus Refugee J1 US STARVATION: Red Civ G1 flees to G2. White Civ K7 starves. White Civ K2 defects to either J2 or K3. Sinewave, what happens to the civ at K2, and what actions do you then take?
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May 21, 2016 06:31
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K2 Flees to J2. MILITARIZE F4 and E1 (taking all 4 actions) 
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May 21, 2016 07:52
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 Commies get out REEEEEEEEE
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May 21, 2016 07:52
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 Radiation advances, refugee shows up. ACTIVE CARD: G1 & K4, plus Refugee J1 NEXT CARD: D7 & K3 STARVATION: New refugee at J1 immediately starves. Red civ L4 starves. ACTION: Tricky, your moves.
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May 21, 2016 08:34
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H5 -> Threaten G5, moving both civilians to G6.  Soldier H5 -> Move to G5. Civilian H7 -> Move to H6. 1x Civilian H5 -> Move to G4.
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May 21, 2016 09:25
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Tricky posted:H5 -> Threaten G5, moving both civilians to G6. This play is not legal. You can only move two pieces if you have both a soldier AND numerical superiority, and you don't have numerical superiority. You have three pieces in H5 (soldier and 2 civs), Sine has three pieces in G5 (2 civs and the depot). You can still move two of his pieces, of course, but it'll take two separate Threaten actions.
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May 21, 2016 09:47
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Ah. Make it a double threaten to G6 and I'll use my remaining actions to move the supply to J3.
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May 21, 2016 12:58
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Supply depot in G5 is uncontrolled. Radiation and refugees appear. ACTIVE CARD: D7 & K3 NEXT CARD: E6 & D3, refugee B3 STARVATION: J1 one neutral civ dies. G1 neutral civ dies. C6 one neutral defects* to depot G5 (depot now neutral). One blue civ defects to depot G5, becomes neutral. F2, G2, and K4 have multiple options.  Sinewave, how will you resolve the starvation at F2, G2, and K4? Then, what actions will you take? *This is a weird corner case I've never seen before, but it's technically a defection under the current rules. An unclaimed depot is not friends with any piece, so the neutral cannot Flee here. But can defect, and pieces which defect to unclaimed depots become neutral. Technically, two blue civs could defect here and become neutral, leaving a neutral and a blue behind in G6, but I figured I could assume Sine's decision here. I'll have to remember to add this to the FAQ. Or maybe just change it in v0.6? I don't know how I feel about this interaction.
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May 21, 2016 23:33
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Still waiting on Sine.
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May 24, 2016 01:38
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It was Victoria Day long weekend here (and as I posted in the beginning, I am not usually online weekends & evenings), thanks for waiting. I'll have my move in ASAP. Victoria would have wanted it that way 
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May 24, 2016 21:29
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Hmmm you say F2 has starvation but as a dirty snow hex (supports 1 unit) with +1 for the friendly supply depot... isn't F2 therefore not starving? E1 however I think *is* starving with the neutral - but they should defect to the US
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May 24, 2016 21:37
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F2 can hold two pieces (dirty snow plus depot) and is holding three (soldier, civ, depot). Therefore it is starving. E2 is fine. It is dirty snow, but can support one additional blue piece due to the adjacent blue depot. It is not starving. This may need clarification, thanks for pointing it out.
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May 24, 2016 22:19
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Gutter Owl posted:F2 can hold two pieces (dirty snow plus depot) and is holding three (soldier, civ, depot). Therefore it is starving. Oh, I forgot that supply depots are units themselves - my mistake.
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May 24, 2016 23:26
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Yeah, I'm noticing a lot of people forget that rule. Might mean I need to change it in the next pass.
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May 24, 2016 23:36
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Gutter Owl posted:E2 is fine. It is dirty snow, but can support one additional blue piece due to the adjacent blue depot. It is not starving. This may need clarification, thanks for pointing it out. (I was talking about E1, do you mean E1?) I understand perfectly (I think), but if I'm sharing my thoughts: It's a little weird that the Neutral in E1 is not starving but G2 (also with two units) is starving. I get why, etc - but having the right context (which is a lot more than just "# of units per hex") is critical to the explanation making sense  Gutter Owl posted:Yeah, I'm noticing a lot of people forget that rule. Might mean I need to change it in the next pass. I think it's nonintuitive - the surrounding hexes get +1 but the supply depot itself does not (because it "uses up" its own +1 since it is a unit).
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May 24, 2016 23:37
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Hmm to resolve F2 starvation, some non-intuitiveness: US civilian flee -> E2 is illegal because rules state you can only flee to a hex containing friendly unit(s) that can support it, and E2 (despite being able to support up to two friendly units) contains no friendlies, only a neutral. However the US civ cannot defect to that neutral because the neutral cannot support it (dirty snow, 1 unit only). Even though the end result in the hex would mirror E1  ANYWAY Starvation Resolution F2: US civ flees to clean snow hex F3 (joining a friendly unit in clean snow with room to spare) F2 no longer starving. G2: USSR civ defects to G3 (G3 is clean snow, supports two units) Remaining USSR civ in G2 is no longer starving. K4: USSR civ flees to K3 (joining USSR unit on dirty ice with room to spare) My turn 1) Watch this. The newly-defected USSR civ from G2 has settled in with new best friends from the US of A in G3. After a hot meal, let's see what happens next! Ah, what people won't do for a meal. G3 (now with two US civs) THREATEN G2; USSR civ in G2 MOVE -> H2 Welcome to Harshland! Things are way uncool here. 2) F4 (US Soldier) MOVE -> G4 3) G6 THREATEN H7 (two US civs, one USSR civ); H7 MOVE -> J7
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May 25, 2016 00:07
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Fourth action, or just passing?
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May 25, 2016 02:31
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Oops. 4) E1 PRESSGANG E2
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May 25, 2016 03:22
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Mister Sinewave posted:Oops. Moving to where?
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May 25, 2016 03:29
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Maybe I'm not running on all cylinders today but doesn't pressgang just convert neutral in adjacent or same hex to a civilian of your type? E: I chose E2 because it doesn't leave USSR resolving a starvation like doing my own hex would.
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May 25, 2016 03:34
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Ok, I just reviewed the rules and see that PRESSGANG only converts if you move the neutral (s) into a hex with your pieces. I feel like a total dipshit for all this, I'll sort out my last move asap.
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May 25, 2016 03:39
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To be fair, I am actively considering turning Pressgang into basically that in the next revision.
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May 25, 2016 03:40
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Ok move 4 will be: G4 SOLDIER PRESSGANG G5 NEUTRAL CIV; MOVE NEUTRAL CIV G4->G5 Aka moving a neutral civ away from the supply depot to my soldier's hex. Which I *think* I can do because even though I'm outnumbered 3:1 I still can do one because soldiers are armed. One for outnumber, 1 for presence of soldier. And it's clean snow so it supports us both. Unless I've caught the stupid more/again/still. If that's illegal then move the second-from-furthest far left US civ one hex closer, I'm on my phone and checking the map to confirm hex # is a chore atm.
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May 25, 2016 03:52
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Done! Fresh new civilian for the US. DOOMSDAY Radiation in D7 and K3  ACTIVE CARD: E6 & D3, refugee B3 NEXT CARD: H8 & K2 STARVATION Two red civilians die in K3. ACTION Tricky, your four actions
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May 25, 2016 05:15
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Soldier H5 -> Attack G4. G6 becomes dead. 1x Civilian J4 -> Move to H5. H5 Pressgangs G5 to H5. 1x Civilian H5 -> Move to G5. Tricky fucked around with this message at 06:37 on May 25, 2016 |
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May 25, 2016 06:34
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Tricky posted:Soldier H5 -> Attack G4. G6 becomes dead. Incorrect. The closest dirty hex to H5 (the performing hex) is J4.
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May 25, 2016 07:44
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Whoops. Definitely tunnel-visioned onto the bottom part of the map. In that case... 1x Civilian H5, Soldier H5 -> Move to G5. Soldier G5 -> Attack G4. G6 becomes dead. 1x Civilian J4 -> Move to H5. H5 Pressgangs Neutral G5 to H5.
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May 25, 2016 08:19
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DOOMSDAY Radiation advances to E6 & D3, refugee appears B3.  ACTIVE CARD: H8 & K2 NEXT CARD: C6 E2 +refugee A2 STARVATION US civ flees from B3 to A2, driven away by the tide of refugees. Two US civs die at G6.  ACTION Sinewave, how will you respond to this attack? gutterdaughter fucked around with this message at 00:04 on May 26, 2016 |
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May 25, 2016 09:05
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drat, I'm in a tight spot. And E2 is coming up on the next doomsday card, too. F2 SOLDIER MOVE -> G2 then G2 SOLDIER MOVE -> H3 H3 THREATEN J3; MOVE J3 USSR CIV -> J2 E1 SOLDIER MOVE -> F2
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May 25, 2016 18:24
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Radiation spreads! H8 is already dead. Radiation spreads to an adjacent hex. H7 is empty, so the radiation spreads to H7. K2 is already dead. Radiation spreads to an adjacent hex. No adjacent hexes are empty, so radiation can spread to an occupied hex. Sinewave, you can spread radiation to J1 or J2. (J2 kills more pieces, J1 gets you a defector.) Which do you choose?
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May 26, 2016 00:23
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Commie  in J2, please.
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May 26, 2016 00:28
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 ACTIVE CARD: C6 & E2, +refugee A2 NEXT CARD: C6 & K4 STARVATION J2 - No flight. One red civ defects neutral to J3, claiming the supply depot. (This definitely feels wrong, needs fixed.) Remaining two starve.  ACTION Tricky, you must answer this aggression for the Motherland!
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May 26, 2016 00:52
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