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Liberté, Fraternité, Éradiqué - Let's Play The Saboteur About the Game The Saboteur is a 2009 Open-World Third-Person Shooter set in 194X Europe. The Developed by Pandemic Studios and published by EA, The Saboteur would be their last title (Dec 2009) after they were closed just a month prior. The game is centered around the theme of oppression, which is expertly displayed with its art direction. Some of the other portions are hit or miss, with the Havok/Odin engine powering this game throwing a fit every now and again. As a bonus for those who pre-ordered this game, a DLC was included which allowed the player to turn on nudity. For whatever reason, the DLC is still available when you purchase the game via Origin. It's pointless and dumb, and will not be shown. About the LP Travelling back in time with me is my pal ChaosArgate, with a selection of guest commentators to appear later down the road. I'll try to aim for one vid per week to keep things running smoothly. This game is Rated M for Mature so please take this in consideration as there will be plenty of swearing, sexual themes, blood, etc. Oh, and for the sake of those who have not experienced this game, let's KEEP SPOILERS TO A MINIMUM. I don't want to stop or kill conversations, but I feel that this game is a largely forgotten title. Videos  Episode 1: Someone set us up the bomb  Episode 2: Havok Engine  Episode 3: MoonWalking Wounded with guest co-commentator Skippy Granola  Episode 4: (Don't) Shoot The Messenger with guest co-commentator Skippy Granola  Episode 5: The Transporter with guest co-commentator nine-gear crow  Episode 6: Desperate Struggle with guest co-commentator nine-gear crow  Episode 7: Deus Ex Zeppelin with guest co-commentator 64bitrobot  Episode 8: Bada-bing, Bada-boom! with guest co-commentator 64bitrobot  Episode 9: Funstapo! with guest co-commentator BlindSally  Episode 10: Midnight Express with guest co-commentator BlindSally  Episode 11: From Frankfurt With Love with guest co-commentator ACES CURE PLANES  Episode 12: Europe's Most Wanted with guest co-commentator ACES CURE PLANES  Episode 13: Spy-con 2016 with guest co-commentator liquidypoo  Episode 14: ... and Sir Audio not appearing in this film. with guest co-commentator liquidypoo  Episode 15: The Professional with guest co-commentator nine-gear-crow  Episode 16: Taking A Concrete Nap with guest co-commentator nine-gear crow  Episode 17: Dead Zeppelin with guest co-commentator Jamie The D  Episode 18: Death Race 194X with guest co-commentator Faerie Fortune  Episode 19: Oh, well, f*** you then! with guest co-commentator nine-gear crow  Episode 20: Devil in Disguise with guest co-commentator Lunethex  Bonus 01: Deutschland Uber Phallus with guest co-commentators Blind Sally, Faerie Fortune, Jamie The D, and Nine Gear Crow  Bonus 02: Auf Wiedersehen Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Cast and Characters (In order of appearance) Name: Sean "Touchdown" Devlin Occupation: Mechanic, Race Car Driver Likes: Alcohol, Women, Macrame Dislike: The Weimar Republic, The Third Reich, The Holy Roman Empire, The British, Cops Voiced By: Robin Atkin Downes  Name: Luc Gaudin Occupation: Author Favorite song: We're not gonna take it by Twisted Sister Favorite quote: "Espèce d'enfoiré de merde!" Voiced By: Andre Sogliuzzo  Name: Jules Rousseau Occupation: Notable skills: Whining, Complaining, Moaning Favorite Car: Red Voiced By: Andre Sogliuzzo  Name: Veronique Rousseau Occupation: Annoying sister, Part-Time Photographer Role Model: Tascher de la Pagerie Other: Mastered the 1,000 yard stare at a young age Voiced By: Karen Strassman  Name: Vittore Morini Occupation: Italian Favorite Bedtime Story: Il Duce and the 7 Blackshirts Notable Relatives: Victor Sullivan Voiced By: Jim Ward  Name: Kurt Dierker Occupation: The Bad Man Best Pickup Line: "Want to see my Schnitzel?" Source of Inspiration: Hulk Hogan (nWo) Voiced By: Mischa Pfister  Name: Sylar Occupation: Possible Love Interest Favorite Mix: Business and Pleasure Favorite Toy: Heartstrings Voiced By: Kari Wahlgren  Name: Franziska Occupation: 'Personal' Bodyguard, Part-Time model for Hugo Boss Relevance to the plot score: 0 Henchmen: The Otto Triplets Voiced By: Karen Strassman  Name: Ludivine Occupation: Owner of The Belle De Nuit Favorite Hobbies: Knitting, Pole Dancing, Drinking Fun Fact: Once did 30 pushups. In a row. Voiced By: Rajia Baroudi  Name: Gaspard Occupation: Man Total on-screen time in-game: <5 minutes Notes: Goes to confessional on a daily basis Voiced By: Steve Blum  Name: Santos Occupation: Black Marketeer Likes: To live dangerously, The 3 Musketeers Allergies: Bananas, Owing people favors Voiced By: Zev Esquenazi  Name: HAVOK ENGINE Occupation: Beach Volleyball Simulator Loves: Bouncing boobs Hates: Car physics Voiced By: My internal screaming  Name: Le Crochet Occupation: Avatar of Vengeance Favorite Delicacy: Crocodile Meat Notes: Lost his hand in a Bingo game Voiced By: Nolan North   Name: Bishop Occupation: Favorite Boardgame: Mousetrap Notes: His secret hideout, the Church, has a sign out front that reads "No Irish Allowed" Voiced By: John Noble  Name: Wilcox Occupation: Lackey Favorite Childhood Toy: Mr.McPotatoface Notes: Keeps unloaded shotgun for home defense. "Racking the slide is enough to scare any man." Voiced By: Graham McTavish  Name: Father Denis Occupation: Ordained Priest Likes: Crank calling God Notes: Convicted felon using Priesthood as a means to eliminate people who have slighted him in the past Voiced By: Steve Blum  Name: Margot Occupation: Crotchety Old Lady Wants: You to get off her lawn Hates: Young whippersnappers Voiced By: Cynthia Songe  Name: Dr.Kessler Occupation: Likes: The Theory of Relativity Hates: How that bastard Einstein beat him to it Voiced By: Phil Proctor  Name: Duval Mingo Occupation: Token Black Guy Good Idea: ERROR 404 - FILE NOT FOUND Bad Idea: "Hey guys, let's hold a secret meeting out in the open under the watchful eye of an AA gun!" Voiced By: Hakim Kae Kazim  Name: Dr. Kwong Occupation: Token Asian Guy Likes: Dressing up in women's clothing and hanging out in bars. Dislikes: People dumber than him, so Sean. Well, especially Sean. Voiced By: Matt Yang King Q&A with Lead Writer Tom Abernathy  Tom Abernathy was the Lead Writer for The Saboteur for most of its development. Currently, he is working on Infinite Arms. He was very happy to answer my bad, and crow's good, questions regarding The Saboteur. If you'd like to follow Tom, you can find him on twitter. quote:Tom contributes his creativity and storytelling experience to Jumo™ as the day-to-day creative lead for Infinite Arms™. In bringing to life the immersive world of the game, Tom uses his skills and expertise as an award-winning writer and narrative designer to craft new characters and propulsive storylines to create a thrilling ongoing journey for Infinite Arms™ fans. Question #1 What was your involvement with "The Saboteur", how big of a role did you play in its development? Answer: I was lead writer for 1st 3 years. Played major creative role almost from beginning, developing world & characters. Question #2 Did the untimely demise of Pandemic Studios rush the project out the door? Was there any planned DLC for post-launch content? Answer: No. Game was finished before studio was shuttered. 1 could make case the delay of project from 3 to 4.5 years+ played role in EA choosing 2 shut down Pandemic. (Mercs 2 as well) But that's just speculation. Don't know about DLC. Certainly there were plans for a sequel. DLC was just becoming a thing at that point, so not sure about that. Question #3 Were there any plans for a bigger role for General Eckhardt? The 3rd act feels rushed, is this intentional? Answer: The script underwent some revisions after I left, especially in the 3rd act. (Although rule of thumb in game dev is that you put a lot more work into beginnings than endings, bcs only maybe 1/3 of players play to the end. I can't speak to the "rushed" part. Originally there were 2 main villains, Dierker & Eckhardt. Think Vader & Emperor. Dierker was cut after I left project. Eckhardt was always meant to be more power behind scenes, a la Emp Sidious, so it's possible the loss of Dierker accounts for any sense that Eckhardt isn't around as much as you'd expect. Edit: Question 3.5 "You say that Dierker was cut, but he was still the main villain. Don't you mean Eckhardt was cut, affecting Dierker?" Answer: Sorry, yes. That's what I meant. :-) Question #4 Who's your favorite character in the game, and why? Answer: This is SUPER hard, because I love them all. Aside from Sean, bcs duh :-), probably Skylar Sinclair. Lots of great 1s cut too. Fav of those: Georgia Parker, inspired by Josephine Baker. Cut from game. Question #5 What's your fondest memory from the development of "The Saboteur"? Answer: 2 things come to mind. For my 1st 6-9 months the design team was lead des Tom French & me. Blissfully productive. More specifically, working w concept artist to develop Skylar's plane. 2+ wks of convo & iteration. End result: A plane that evokes Skylar, both her look & her personality. Thrilling example of cross-disciplinary collaboration. Question #6 Do you think "The Saboteur" will ever get a sequel? Would you want to go back to it, and where would you have it set? Answer: Hard to imagine. Highly regarded but low sales, bcs no support from EA at the time. Whole team is gratified that so many fans have discovered it & are passionate about it. I'd do another in a heartbeat. Plan was to go to Berlin. Question #7 If you had the choice, what time period of Berlin would you set it in? Near the end of the war? During 'His' rise? Answer: Never got that far, at least while I was there. Original plan was to end 1st game w Allied liberation of Paris, but we were asked not to go that far, so as to preserve part of the war in Europe for a sequel. Question #8 Was it a deliberate choice not to mention Hitler, or most/all of the people who actually participated in the war? also ties into Question #10 Was it also deliberate to skew the timeframes a bit? What was the inspiration for terror troops, zeppelins, and wulf tanks? Answer: In general, we were making a stylized version of occupied Paris; historical accuracy mattered but wasn't paramount. To do a Medal of Honor-type historical game would've meant too many limitations. We were aiming more for Raiders of the Lost Ark feel, w a little James Bond in there as well. Don't recall ever discussing whether or not to mention Hitler specifically; wasn't germane to what we were doing. Once you introduce him, you've reached apex antagonist. We were more interested in a microcosm of the war, with our own characters as the focus. Although Devlin is loosely based on 3 real Grand Prix drivers who worked for SOE. It was their experience we were concerned with depicting, & none of them ever met Hitler. Not having been alive during the war, I can't say how often Hitler was discussed in everyday conversation. So just wasn't a big issue for us. Other inspirations: Where Eagles Dare, The Train Not aware of any skewing of timeframes. We were specific about starting the game just before the Paris occupation and it ends before the liberation. There were some historical inspirations for the things you mention, but again we wanted to give ourselves as much artistic license to imagine as possible. & zeppelins are just awesome. :-) Question #9 Who named the various vehicles so I know who to blame?  You spoke of Skylar's plane, did you use blueprints of the P-61 or stock photos for the design?Answer: No idea who named vehicles. Can't speak to blueprints of specific referents. TONS of research done, though. NineGearCrow's Questions Q: Was the subplot of the "glowing thing in the trunk that's totally the Ark of the Covenant/Holy Grail" that Bishop has you recover originally going to go somewhere or pay off? Or was is just a fun nod to Indiana Jones-style Nazi mysticism plots? A: Kinda both. Obvious nod to Raiders (& Pulp Fiction), but was originally meant to pay off more. But fine as is, too. Q:What inspired the choice to have the protagonist be an Irishman in a predominantly French setting? A: Great Q. The version of the player character in the original demo made by Scott Warner & Tom French et al using the Mercs engine was an Englishman, a Jude Law type. General consensus in studio was that he came off a little foppish. Making him not just Irish but working class, a mechanic, deliberately broke with the 3 real life drivers' lives, but we felt it would make him a little more obviously masculine & relatable. We wanted him to be an earthy barroom brawler type; almost what you might expect if he were an American. Just felt more relatable to players in our minds. Q: What is your favorite line of dialog from the game? A: Honestly, enough of my script was rewritten that I couldn't say what lines I recall were in released game or not. I loved the stuff with Jules in the interrogation, some of which is mine. My two favorite scenes, 1 Sean/Skylar & 1 Sean/Georgia, were cut. They were very much in mold of Raymond Chandler - Maltese Falcon, BIg Sleep, Key Largo. Q: And lastly, Skylar and Veronique seem like the Betty and Veronica of The Saboteur. Who would you prefer Sean ultimately wound up with between the two? A: Very true & no accident. One thing I discovered in my research was the extent of distrust SOE came to have for the French Resistance (& vice versa). Great movie called Veronica Guerin, w Cate Blanchett, that fictionalized the life of a couple of real female SOE agents in occupied France & dramatizes that dynamic. Also Verhoeven's Black Book. I created Véronique (obvi nod 2 Veronica Guerin & also Kieslowski's Double Life of Veronica) & Skylar (sky! Pilot!) to personify those two poles, groups who started out working in concert but over time started working at odds. (Especially SOE; as war was starting to swing, Allies didn't want communists getting power in postwar France, so they started double-crossing the Resistance. Again, see Veronica Guerin.) I wanted those points of view to be given voice, & for Sean to be torn between them. So it was intentional that at 1st, like Betty/Veronica or Mary Jane/Gwen the more glamorous one might seem more appealing, but the girl-next-door charms of the other became more appealing over time. Also bcs I ultimately come down more on the side of the Resistance, who I think were betrayed by SOE. Skylar is amazing in so many ways, but she's also a spoiled rich kid who's never gonna make a long term thing work. That's not how she's built (she has a bit of Lara Croft in her). Véronique is less flashy but has more substance. Having said that, Sean wouldn't end up w Skylar bcs no one would; she'll never settle down. So Véronique is only option between the two. Whether Véronique would ever decide to try and settle down w Sean is another matter. She might be too smart to believe a guy like him would ever settle down either. Dunno. Would have loved to find out. :-) Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Sep 10, 2016 |
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The Saboteur Fan-Art and Thread Contributions "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furry!" -Brought to us by Chitoryu12  Chitoryu12 shows us cut content that didn't quite make it into DLC  CROW! CROOOOOOOOOOW!  Crow tells it like it is! Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Oh man, I hope you folks are ready for an explosive ride, this is gonna be good.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:As a bonus for those who pre-ordered this game, a DLC was included which allowed the player to turn on nudity. For whatever reason, the DLC is still available when you purchase the game via Origin. But if you bought it at release for Xbox it came on a card with an expiration date, which is This is one of my favorite games, and I look forward to seeing how you go about things. I kept trying to stealth obvious non-stealth sections. e: Wait, Jules and Luc have the same VA? Huh, he's good. Although I guess it's primarily the accents that keeps it from sounding like Oblivion and the whole "Wait, didn't I just talk to you?" thing. Dareon fucked around with this message at 16:35 on May 18, 2016 |
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Dareon posted:But if you bought it at release for Xbox it came on a card with an expiration date, which is Hahaha, did it really have an expiration date? What a dick move! I remember playing the hell out of this on my PS3 but I don't think I pre-ordered it. I end up saying it a few times in future recordings, for all its faults, Saboteur is written in a way I love and has some genuinely good art design and arcadey gameplay. Any frustrations I've had with this game are usually caused by one of three things: How you're punished when you die (outside of a mission), and some shenanigans with combat at the higher/highest difficulty. The third? The game has ~1,000 collectibles/destructibles, and getting them all is a serious test of endurance. Otherwise, this is a really good title and you should definitely get it when it goes on sale.
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Saboteur! This game needs a sequel so much.
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anilEhilated posted:Saboteur! This game needs a sequel so much. The great thing about The Saboteur is that you don't even need to have the same characters. All you need to do is pick literally any major city that came under German control during WW2 and voila, you've got your venue, time to write some characters! And no, it doesn't have to make sense historically, as we're going to find out very soon (3 months earlier!).
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Finished this game two days ago. Who would have thought endless explosions and killing Nazi's would get so tiring? I am so proud of Pandemic.
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May 18, 2016 17:53
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Is it on Origin? I'd have bought it already if I knew that!
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Hell yeah! I'm glad to see this one's finally off the ground. This game looks actually pretty fun to play, like a WWII-era Assassin's Creed or what not.
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nine-gear crow posted:Hell yeah! I'm glad to see this one's finally off the ground. This game looks actually pretty fun to play, like a WWII-era Assassin's Creed or what not. This is basically what it is, in every conceivable way.
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So I have to ask - the nudity mod/dlc - is it female-only or are men and women in their unmentionables? Or is it the usual "showing a penis will scare our audience away but tits now there's your market segment!"?
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May 18, 2016 23:27
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As far as I can tell, it's just for the women in the strip club.
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What it SHOULD have done was just made every single person in the game world nude all the time, like a nudist colony civil war.
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Luc can't even pronounce "Espèce d'enfoiré de merde !" correctly. I liked this game. It has definite gameplay flaws but it was still enjoyable.
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double nine posted:So I have to ask - the nudity mod/dlc - is it female-only or are men and women in their unmentionables? Or is it the usual "showing a penis will scare our audience away but tits now there's your market segment!"? ChaosArgate posted:As far as I can tell, it's just for the women in the strip club. Basically, this. It removes the pasties, and I didn't care to check if anyone else might be affected other than in The Belle de Nuit. pylb posted:Luc can't even pronounce "Espèce d'enfoiré de merde !" correctly. I didn't want to harp on it in the video, but you are correct. :chuckle: As for it being a flawed, but good game...  
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Exactly what tank was that? It looks like a 1930s French or Italian design, or maybe an overgrown Renault FT.
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chitoryu12 posted:Exactly what tank was that? It looks like a 1930s French or Italian design, or maybe an overgrown Renault FT. It's supposed to be a Char B1.  This is impossible because: 1. It is a French tank 2. The prologue occurs "3 Months Earlier", supposedly before the war began (more on this in a later video) and thus they could never have captured any examples. 3. They never purchased any.
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The fact that the gazillion collectibles actually involve blowing poo poo up and fighting the Nazis makes them a lot more tolerable than the collectibles from a lot of other games. Honestly I think the only "bad" collectible was kissing fifty women for that one trophy.
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I would understand if this was a Xbox title, but the whole thing looked, felt, and played like a beta version. It might have been better if it had variety, but I will go easy on it since the fun is starting.chitoryu12 posted:Is it on Origin? I'd have bought it already if I knew that! That bartender you beat up was actually Dierker hiding like a pussy.
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May 19, 2016 08:28
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Scalding Coffee posted:That bartender you beat up was actually Dierker hiding like a pussy. But then, who was the bartender? 
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Seyser Koze posted:The fact that the gazillion collectibles actually involve blowing poo poo up and fighting the Nazis makes them a lot more tolerable than the collectibles from a lot of other games. Yeah, but "fortunately" that's one you can grind in at least one specific spot. It was boring and I'm glad I never have to do it again. The Saboteur is the only game I've platinumed that wasn't just "Completed the storyline? Good, you get all the achievements." and that one achievement was the only one missing for a few months.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:It's supposed to be a Char B1. edit: Seriously, if there ever was a design screaming "French tank"... anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 11:13 on May 19, 2016 |
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I was always under the impression that the vehicles weren't attempting to be historically accurate, just taking the general theme of "German tank, French sports car, bread delivery truck" and filing off the identifying marks. I could easily be wrong, though. I just know there's one tank in the game that's explicitly identified as French, and it looks much more like that Char B1 than the tank you drove by does.
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Dareon posted:I was always under the impression that the vehicles weren't attempting to be historically accurate, just taking the general theme of "German tank, French sports car, bread delivery truck" and filing off the identifying marks. I could easily be wrong, though. I just know there's one tank in the game that's explicitly identified as French, and it looks much more like that Char B1 than the tank you drove by does.  Pretty cut and dry  There's another tank we'll be seeing shortly that is also based on real life. I can't recall if they call it by name or not.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Oh, and for the sake of those who have not experienced this game, let's KEEP SPOILERS TO A MINIMUM. I don't want to stop or kill conversations, but I feel that this game is a largely forgotten title. The Allies win the war.
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Blind Sally posted:The Allies win the war. Mods?!
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So, why is the French Resistance game about an Irishman? The color idea is really neat.
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double nine posted:So I have to ask - the nudity mod/dlc - is it female-only or are men and women in their unmentionables? Or is it the usual "showing a penis will scare our audience away but tits now there's your market segment!"? It's definitely the first one. I got this for free with my used PS3, opened up the case, saw a DLC code for "TOPLESS CONTENT". Then I closed it and played Mass Effect 2 instead. Despite that...skeeviness, this game still does look interesting, historical fiction is cool, looking forward to watching the LP.
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Night10194 posted:So, why is the French Resistance game about an Irishman? Presumably because you need a english-speaking tough guy? I honestly don't know. What's even weirder is that, apparently, Sean Devlin is based off of one William Grover-Williams (A gamespot interview where this is explicitely stated) who happens to be... French. Suffice to say, I don't think the devs ever explained just why he's Irish.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Presumably because you need a english-speaking tough guy? I honestly don't know. Looking over the wiki page, it mentions an Irish painter also named William Orpen. Brought Grover-Williams along during his racing career, who married the girl Orpen broke up with. Possible someone in the writing team got confused for a moment, then decided among themselves 'oh, an irish man will sell better to western audience. Americans love the irish!" That's just my guess though.
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Drakenel posted:Looking over the wiki page, it mentions an Irish painter also named William Orpen. Brought Grover-Williams along during his racing career, who married the girl Orpen broke up with. William & Williams would make for a great buddy cop movie. I also assume having someone Irish or english-speaking was to try and sell more copies.
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Night10194 posted:So, why is the French Resistance game about an Irishman? I bet they asked Downes to do a French accent and it came out even worse than the current companion.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:
Yeah, you're right. I got confused by the battle damage in the file photo and thought there was supposed to be another cannon on the left-hand side of the Char.
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Night10194 posted:So, why is the French Resistance game about an Irishman? Kibayasu posted:I bet they asked Downes to do a French accent and it came out even worse than the current companion.
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Dareon posted:Yeah, you're right. I got confused by the battle damage in the file photo and thought there was supposed to be another cannon on the left-hand side of the Char. It's okay, you're right about another tank. It just doesn't look like the Char B1 
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Kibayasu posted:I bet they asked Downes to do a French accent and it came out even worse than the current companion. A major problem I have is mentally mixing up Robin Atkin Downes with Rowan Atkinson in my head, and I always end up envisioning Mr. Bean voicing whatever roles he's doing.
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chitoryu12 posted:A major problem I have is mentally mixing up Robin Atkin Downes with Rowan Atkinson in my head, and I always end up envisioning Mr. Bean voicing whatever roles he's doing.
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