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Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

pentium166 posted:

That seemed pretty nice until that I saw that it has no SATA and a non-replaceable cooler

I hadn't even noticed that it was m.2 only. I guess I just assumed that even a mitx board would squeeze a minimum of like... 2 ports.

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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Mental Hospitality posted:

I hadn't even noticed that it was m.2 only. I guess I just assumed that even a mitx board would squeeze a minimum of like... 2 ports.

These kinds of boards are basically just meant to be mini PCs you can put in your own case with a PCIe slot and regular RAM slots instead of laptop ones. It's a cool idea for people who want the aesthetic of ITX but without all the other headaches of ITX.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

what about a M.2 to 6x SATA adapter?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

ask me about nix or tailscale

that’s probably not what I want for a NAS, I assume, because it’d put everything through the same PCI lanes? or maybe not, I guess each drive just needs one or two lanes (I have the weird double-platter drives for my new build)…

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

That $30 adapter has 2 lanes of PCIe 3.0, which isn't that terrible for 6 disks. I'm sure it'll saturate the 2.5G nic.

e: yeah don't try to make a monster NAS with this mobo, it has many limitations

ryanrs fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Oct 4, 2024

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

ask me about nix or tailscale
Oh there’d be a Connect-X going in the PCI slot.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

wrong mobo for that build then

M31
Jun 12, 2012
Depending on the support, you might be able to put one of those (pretty cheap) gen3 x8 + dual m.2 bifurcation risers.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
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Aren’t Intel chips better for NASes if you want transcoding?

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

They are yes.

That thing could be a pretty decent SFF virtualisation host, I wouldn't use it for transcoding though.

JammyB
May 23, 2001

I slept with Mary and Joseph never found out
I've got an old SFF PC that would do for a server, except that it idles at 35W. It's a HP Compaq 8200 Elite SFF and the CPU is an Intel G630 (Sandy Bridge).

My question is, if I swap this out for a T-variant Sandy Bridge CPU with the same socket 1155, e.g. the G645T, 1) is this going to reduce the idle power consumption significantly? 2) I've installed CPUs before.. is this just a straight swap or am I likely to hit incompatibilities?

Ideally I'd like to get down to around 15-20W use since it'd be running 24/7, and UK energy prices are ridiculous.

My worry is that unless I buy a complete T-variant low power system then other stuff like the motherboard and PSU will not be efficient enough to get the power use down. I'm not against buying something new (ex-business on ebay) but I've spent quite a while researching, and all of the T-variant low power systems on ebay seem to be tiny/micro form factors so no 3.5" drive space.

JammyB fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Oct 24, 2024

Hasturtium
May 19, 2020

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JammyB posted:

I've got an old SFF PC that would do for a server, except that it idles at 35W. It's a HP Compaq 8200 Elite SFF and the CPU is an Intel G630 (Sandy Bridge).

My question is, if I swap this out for a T-variant Sandy Bridge CPU with the same socket 1155, e.g. the G645T, 1) is this going to reduce the idle power consumption significantly? 2) I've installed CPUs before.. is this just a straight swap or am I likely to hit incompatibilities?

Ideally I'd like to get down to around 15-20W use since it'd be running 24/7, and UK energy prices are ridiculous.

My worry is that unless I buy a complete T-variant low power system then other stuff like the motherboard and PSU will not be efficient enough to get the power use down. I'm not against buying something new (ex-business on ebay) but I've spent quite a while researching, and all of the T-variant low power systems on ebay seem to be tiny/micro form factors so no 3.5" drive space.

The biggest impediment is that idle power for pre-Haswell chips does not implement C6 low power states. If that CPU wasn’t busy when you measured, 35W is probably your baseline regardless of whether you’re running a T-series chip, as that governs max thermal dissipation, and doesn’t impact as much when the system is essentially staring off into space waiting for something crunchy to do. An Atom N100 ITX board running a laptop DDR5 SO-DIMM would idle at maybe a quarter of that, would be faster, and has the advantage of being installable into any case you like. Of course, that’s a bigger purchase than a secondhand T chip…

JammyB
May 23, 2001

I slept with Mary and Joseph never found out
Thanks for that, ok that sounds like a no-go with the old HP system.

I was hoping to find an ex-business off-the-shelf thing but that's a good thought about putting together an N100 based system. Cheers.

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jink
May 8, 2002

Drop it like it's Hot.
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Hasturtium posted:

The biggest impediment is that idle power for pre-Haswell chips does not implement C6 low power states. If that CPU wasn’t busy when you measured, 35W is probably your baseline regardless of whether you’re running a T-series chip, as that governs max thermal dissipation, and doesn’t impact as much when the system is essentially staring off into space waiting for something crunchy to do. An Atom N100 ITX board running a laptop DDR5 SO-DIMM would idle at maybe a quarter of that, would be faster, and has the advantage of being installable into any case you like. Of course, that’s a bigger purchase than a secondhand T chip…

Fantastic to know! Thanks for sharing.

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