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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:I kinda wonder if the 1070 or a polaris card will do that as well. Fury Nano? It's faster (and shorter!) than that 970. The 970's a great card, but it doesn't win in the **FPS per inch** category.
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Prescription Combs posted:Ouch. $260 USD is awfully steep. The 3M PCIe riser cable is a good part of it alone.
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JBark posted:It's absolutely crazy how much power consumption has come down the past couple years. Not if you still buy AMD products! An FX 9590 and a 295X2 would cause your power meter to spin like the scene in Christmas Vacation in which Clark turns on his decorations. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 09:03 on May 31, 2016 |
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JBark posted:What's that come out to be, anyway? Somewhere up near 800W? I really, really want to see someone cram a setup like that in a tiny mITX case now. I can find a few close examples online, but nothing that uses an AMD CPU. Seen a system with a 295X2 and 4770K consume ~600W in a game here, and a system with an FX-9390 in it consume (using a Linpack benchmark) ~330W here. Conveniently, the second link also has the 4770K performing the same test. The 4770K consumes 160W less in the same test. So, although it's not accounting for the exact gaming load in the first test with the 295X2, if we add the 160 to the original tests 592, we are at 752W. There's no way you'd want to have an 800W PSU, because you are way too close to the limit there, running a CPU benchmark and some GPU intensive benchmark at the same time would probably see you kiss 800. So this limits your theoretical build to a case that can fit a full-sized ATX PSU with a rating of at least 850 watts. No SFX PSUs for that build! HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 14:04 on May 31, 2016 |
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VulgarandStupid posted:I think the moral of this story is avoid ATI/AMD whenever possible for SFF builds. I didn't want to say it implicitly in the OP, but I think we all know... Eh, CPUs, yes, graphics cards, not so much. The Fury Nano is pretty much the ultimate in tiny graphics cards. That said, most cases are designed for full length cards, making that trait.. not so useful.
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Zero VGS posted:I know how to make a 3D printable ITX case that's smaller than any design on the market, including the Dan A4 and everything else, I just can't model in CAD to save my life. Not personally fond of the huge, questionable quality laptop brick idea. I also wonder of the validity of a claim of being smaller, but ignoring the PSU. (see Xbox 360 vs PS3).
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Zero VGS posted:Besides, even with a full size laptop brick, you can have it down on the floor near the power strip or wall outlet. Out of sight, out of mind. It's kinda spergy to say "Well actually the case is much bigger if you count that!". Do we count the volume of the power cord too? I don't have any cables trailing from my PC onto the floor, I attached my outlets to the table they sit on, so they're out of the way. A power brick would have to sit near the case (then, in that case, why not in it). I guess it can differ from one desk set up to another, but I don't see how it's "spergy" to point out there's another box you need to find space for. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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Lungboy posted:I'm thinking of going SFF with my next PC, purely because my current ATX tower is massive and I never use more than 1 pcie slot so it seems a huge waste of space. I'm looking at the Nano S, but I haven't seen anyone else in here talk about it. I realise it's large compared to lots of ITX cases, but is that the only reason? I don't need the absolute smallest case on earth, and things like the M1 are out of my budget, so the Nano looks good to me. It's been mentioned a few times in the build thread, and I'm sure it has in here too, could be wrong. Plenty of good reviews out there. Either way, it's a good case, nothing wrong with it. It's just a little larger than the guys that want to cram everything into the smallest box are looking for. I'd definitely go for it if I was building a mini ITX box, especially if you have a GPU that needs room to breathe.
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Zero VGS posted:This poo poo has been vaporware for years but I've had my eye on their webpage and it looks like we might finally see some of these spinning-heatsink coolers: Wow, did that idea ever take a long time to come to market.
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Bass Bottles posted:Very close to jumping on this build. First ever PC building experience, and doing it SFF is scary, but an interesting challenge. I've watched multiple build videos on YouTube using this case, too, so I pretty much know exactly what to expect with it. Yeah, nobody should be building with a new 970 at this point. Wait for the custom 480s or 1060s.
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snuff posted:My Mini-ITX build There's something strangely satisfying about seeing that small odd corner being used so well.
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necrobobsledder posted:Speaking of last gen card heat, I got rid of my GTX 970 (read: no discrete GPU now) in my i7-4790k based Core V1 machine and my CPU doesn't throttle anymore when I throw video to transcode in Handbrake for days on end. I'm a monster for using the stock Intel cooler on it, but I didn't really think that there was that much heat to deal with when playing games or anything else intensive. But the thing that's strange is that the GPU hardly ran when I did a lot of my CPU-intensive tasks - they were mutually exclusive I figured. I guess that's just how finely balanced (crap) the stock cooler is on a 4790K. Can't even have an idling GPU in the same case without throttling. Poor thing is crying out for a decent cooler! HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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El Scotch posted:Yes, but it can't be set lower than 33% speed, at least for my card. You could run it from a motherboard header and use speedfan to control it based on GPU temp. That'd work down to 0%.
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:I just built a system in a Nano S and can't recommend it enough. If you're passionate about getting as small as possible it's not your pick, but if you just think the lingering ATX trend is silly it's a great simple choice that saves you some space while still being stupid easy to work in and shop parts for, and it's quieter than an almost identical build I have in my own R5. The only thing you have to worry about is that the PSU will block one of your GPU fans, so go for a blower or a triple fan. We used a double and it works fine, but the overclock was slightly reduced. I kind of feel like Fractal should have made the Nano S 3-slot, so then you've got an extra bit of space between the GPU and PSU, and you could also freely add a fan controller or some other I/O plate if you so desired, but it of course means extra size. Actually, better idea: if the PSU could be moved to the front of the case with a power extension to the back, that would also resolve it without changing the size of the case at all.. You could also have floor intakes blowing directly on the GPU that way. vv My guess is the only reason they don't currently design it that way is because they want to leave the front clear for giant watercooling radiators, but it would be really nice if they supplied the extension cable, a rear plate to cover the PSU hole (with power receptacle) and some mounting holes up front for the PSU so you could decide where you want it HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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Bag of Sun Chips posted:Does anybody know if the DANCASE can fit bigger GPUs like the MSI GTX 1070s in them? A friend of mine made the mistake of getting a MSI GTX 1070 with Twin Frozr fans and it wouldn't fit in his M1. It absolutely will fit. In a Linus Tech Tips video, they stuff an EVGA Classified 1080 in there, which, at 150.88mm tall, is larger than the MSI 1070 GAMING card.
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NihilCredo posted:Out of curiosity, what are some good case options for a small file server? Or, in other words, which cases have the best [volume] : [number of 3.5" drive slots] ratio? Fractal Design Node 304. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Oct 9, 2016 |
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Thanks Ants posted:cube I'm not sure what part of that is cube-like. Hell, even the "cube" style cases which aren't actually cubes at least look vaguely like one. This just looks like a dumpy tower. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Oct 10, 2016 |
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japtor posted:Isn't that basically like the Ncase M1 at that point? But with soundproofing and no top vents unless you really want them, which makes it more attractive to me, at least.
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Scott Forstall posted:Fractal announced the Define C and Define C Mini. The mini is still 33L in volume which doesn't feel that small, especially as it's mITX only. I'd want something sub 25L for that. Mentioned it earlier, the Mini is microATX, just like the older Define Mini, not mini-ITX. For that, there's the Define Nano S already. vv Yeah, it's not a small case, but I was just pointing out the Nano is the mini-ITX version, not the Mini. Ah, naming schemes. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Node 304 will take up to 6 drives, a full ATX PSU and a full length card if so desired. Be mindful of the PSU size and card length if you go that route, though. The problem is width, "cube"-style cases aren't actually smaller in any reasonable use case at a desk than a narrower tower
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Photex posted:i'm curious does AMD/ATI do Mini ITX versions of their cards? What about the Fury Nano? The origin of FPS/inch! HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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jokes posted:I'm at a crossroads. I really like using a small case that is VERY silent (100% silent at rest) that can run video games at very high resolution, so everything is already an uphill battle. If you're looking for silence you need a case that has a decent amount of space for cooling and decent sound proofing, the Nano S is a good option, even though it's not a really small case. 2560×1440 @ 144Hz is a hard task, a Titan XP won't be wasted in that situation, but it's a lot of money to spend, and it definitely won't run silently.
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Lolcano Eruption posted:Any changes making a case "roomier" is objectively bad. I guess you didn't watch the video
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garfield hentai posted:Eh well looks like my CPU (2500k) is bottlenecking the 1080ti pretty significantly so that's as good an excuse as any to blow even more money on even more upgrades and go mini ITX while I'm at it. I recently built a machine in a Node 202, and I came to the conclusion that the Noctua NH-L9i with a NF-A9 PWM fan swap was pretty much the best I could do. So that's exactly what I went with. The NH-L9i comes with longer screws to allow installation of a 25mm thick fan.
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garfield hentai posted:That's pretty much the same fan but a bit thicker, right? Does it make that big a difference if I don't plan on overclocking (although I did end up getting a K CPU over my initial plan of an 8400 since the 8600k was $230 at Microcenter but still eh I dunno) Yeah, it's pretty much the same fan but thicker, so it pushes more air for the same amount of noise (or less noise for the same amount of air). It's probably not necessary at all; I was just trying to optimise the cooler as much as possible, seeing as options are pretty limited.
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Llamadeus posted:Most GPU enclosures are basically the same size and price as the DAN Case, so I don't see the benefits outweighing separating the GPU and downgrading the processor to a NUC class CPU. So much this. NUC + external GPU makes no sense vs a mini-ITX build in an Dan A4. The NUC solution would be much more unwieldy; use non-standard parts, and be slower.
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Moey posted:It seems Intel consumer chips have had this poo poo IHS problem for a while now. Your next step up for 8th gen is an i9 for like double price. Still not soldered 
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Full Copper Cryorig C7: http://hexus.net/tech/news/cooling/117383-cryorig-c7-cu-full-copper-heatsink-cooler-released/ I just wish they'd stop using that non-standard fan mounting.... It'll be interesting to see how it stacks up, anyway. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Apr 22, 2018 |
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stray posted:I wish there were more good Mini ITX server boards; AFAIK ASRock Rack is the only one who makes them. SuperMicro
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Salted_Pork posted:There's a brand that makes something called the puck, which uses an mxm gpu, and is much smaller than normal egpus, but considering the gpu is about half the size of a dancase any normal sized egpu is going to be about half that. I'm surprised there are no 17 cm gpu egpus, since thunderbolt connection is the limiting factor. It was actually listed in that link:- Sonnet is the make. However, it costs £516. For a Radeon RX 560.
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Yeep posted:I built most of a Dan-A4 system late last year and when my old graphics card died and I was running off the Intel iGPU it was basically silent. The Noctua NH-L9i is quieter than the WD Red spinning disk in my passively cooled fileserver in the same room. Thank you for buying a Radeon VII. Fighting the good fight. We need competition, after all. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Feb 16, 2019 |
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:What's the best air cooler, at or below 145mm height? I can see the Streacom DA2 has a side panel with holes... a Noctua NH-C14S might be a good fit - pulling cold air directly from the side down onto the CPU
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:It's definitely not "SFF", and I'm not crazy on the aesthetics, but this ATX in Micro-ATX case design is exactly what I'd like to see become more popular going forward. For those of us who don't care about water cooling, I think there's a lot of wasted space in your average ATX/Micro-ATX tower, especially with NVME drives becoming so cheap there's just no need for so many drive mounts. A Micro-ATX version of this would be smaller than many mini-ITX cases. Yeah you're restricting CPU air intake somewhat at the front, but imo I prioritize airflow to the GPU more as I'm not a huge overclocker. I'd also like to see Micro-ATX boards be the absolute norm, Mini-ITX be readily available, and ATX be relatively niche. There's usually no call for a lot of PCIe slots, but at least with Micro-ATX, one has space for a wireless card, for example, and has space for potentially more NVMe slots than Mini-ITX. I find it puzzling that so many builds use full ATX boards with nothing but a graphics card.
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Tab8715 posted:Every time I see a pc case with mesh top panels I feel as if I’m going to spill Mountain Dew all over in it. Vented top panels aren't for me either. It's just an extra risk That said, some of the smallest designs wouldn't really have airflow without it HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Feb 5, 2020 |
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Stickman posted:Working Intel cpus and motherboards fetch decent prices on ebay! This can't be understated. It's mental what people will pay for a 3770K or even a 2600K, let alone a 4790K.. basically, if it's less than 10 years old and is overclockable, there's a market.
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Lungboy posted:The new Fractal Era looks interesting and I was hoping that coming from Fractal it would be reasonably priced but nooooope. It doesn't have appreciable ventilation on the bottom, where the GPU could actually breathe. It basically ruins the case. I don't know why they did that. Such a shame, because I really like the look of it, especially with the wood panel.
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Maxwell Adams posted:Seems like you could just stick some feet to the bottom to fix it. I bet GamersNexus will do that in their review. It doesn't have any real area for intake on the bottom, though; you'd need a perforated bottom panel. It only has tiny slits along the lower edges.  I don't understand it - fractal have been great about having case floor ventilation before, and some models have those great full-length filters that can be accessed from the front. Would have been perfect here. orcane posted:the 80mm fan is completely inadequate It doesn't help that the grille is incredibly restrictive. It's pretty ugly. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Mar 19, 2020 |
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Stickman posted:That and/or drill some exhaust ventilation in the Node 202’s GPU chamber... Yeah, that's the main issue with the node 202. I really like it, though. I've made a real effort in mine to remove restrictions - no 2.5" drive cage, very neat cable routing and so on. Some decent intakes with good static pressure like the Noctua A12x25s as I have then can ram the air over the gpu (which I've totally removed the shroud and fans from) and through the gaps and out the top by the CPU (I have it standing upright, the only way a node 202 can really be used)
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denereal visease posted:And they decided to cool the 3950X with an NH-L9A Yeeeah, I replaced mine for a larger cooler (ID Cooling IS-60) in my node 202 because the nh-l9a wasn't great for a 3600, let alone a 3950x
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HappyCapybaraFamily posted:Aww man, I also currently have a Node 202 and am considering a 3700X to upgrade, and the NH-L9a is my current cooler choice Don't get me wrong, it worked, and was OK, but it had to ramp up quite a bit, and I figured with a better heatsink I'd get a bit more boost headroom. Arzachel posted:Some guy replaced the CPU vent filter with a 140mm Noctua fan but it looked like it was holding on just the rubbery tabs through the vent mesh which might be a bit flimsy. Alternatively, there's a 3d printable duct model available for the NH-L9a so it gets fresh air instead of recycling GPU exhaust. Yeah, I also have the Noctua on mine, I didn't consider using the fan that came with it. Shame the mounting hardware on the IS-60 isn't anywhere near as nice as the Noctua NH-L9a, but it performs better. Back to the NH-L9a duct suggestion; 3D printable ducts are a bit over the top - when looking at the NH-L9a packaging, I was inspired - the foam insert in the box of course has a 92mm square cutout, and. It happens to have enough thickness to bridge the gap between the fan on the NH-L9a and the side of the Node 202. Just cut off some of the excess with some scissors, and it fits. No 3D printing needed, one perfectly fitting custom duct for free. It is a good idea, because it stops hot air recycling. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Oct 5, 2020 |
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