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ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Reposting for posterity.

Agean90 posted:

We were somewhere around Berlin when the drugs began to take hold

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ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Even if they release Hitler DLC™ geo-locked, I'm confident that within 48 hours someone will have an unofficial patch in the form of a mod that contains the unlocked graphic file. And the type of people bitching are also probably the kind that can figure out how to install a mod. It's really no big deal and people need to chill the hell out.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

ThaumPenguin posted:

Germans using mods the Hitler portrait cannot get achievements in Ironman.

It's gonna happen.

Couldn't they just get the Hitler portrait .DDS file from the international version from a friend/associate and replace it with the one in the game's base files, then? I don't know if this would alter the checksum and/or if this is what disabling achievements checks.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Hot drat, almost 100 posts in this thread since I last checked? I bet something really cool happened!


.... oh.


Fellblade posted:

Having Devs posting on the forums is great but it sure sucks when some random amateur historian thinks they know game development better than somebody who has been making games every day for years.

No, but see, you just don't get it. If they don't make tanks the best thing ever then that won't lead to research to give me gundams!!! Tanks are literally superior to every other form of warfare ever made and can only be made better by putting legs and wings on them, which is pretty obviously where Hitler was going before the war ended. The only reason those German tanks broke down invading Russia is because they didn't have ENOUGH wings and legs!!!! Any idiot can see this. Paradox should hire me for history consultation, obv.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Mortabis posted:

Who actually calls it that? Other than cranks on the internet.

I had a friend who lived in Shreveport and referred to it that way. He also went on to explain to me that the South had blacks in their armies and that they volunteered to fight, so the South couldn't possibly be racist and there was no way the Civil War was fought over slavery.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Gamerofthegame posted:

whether or not it's good or stellaris'd again?

It will be Stellaris'd. But that's okay, it's still going to be a great game.

I'm going to play as the US during my first game so I can chant U! S! A! over and over while I steamroll Shermans across Germany. As was historically accurate.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

The modding stream was pretty helpful.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Arrhythmia posted:

i'm the shadow president of the rest of the world

Fun fact: I used a silhouette of George W Bush for that one!

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

The Narrator posted:

drat, the filters end up getting those images pretty nice/consistent with HoI4's art style.

Yeah, I spent a long time trying a bunch of different things to get it to "look good". I have a huge guide I wrote myself to go through each step of the process now. I've been using Photoshop professionally for almost twenty years and it still was a challenge, but I'm really happy with the end result.

Edit: Now to automate it with an action!

ExtraNoise fucked around with this message at 06:51 on May 23, 2016

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

The system that appears to be in place now is a happy medium. I don't want to spend so much time setting up each of my armor divisions that I never actually send them into battle.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Phi230 posted:

Let me remind everyone that HoI4 comes out in 2 weeks so we only have 14 days to :goonsay: this thread into the ground so we have stuff to complain about when the game comes

Its really frustrating that they use the same model of the StuG III ausf G43 variant in 1936 while we're expected to believe that it's also in use instead of the StuH 42 ausf G/H while invading Russia. How ridiculous. It really pulls me out of the game.

NATO counters would solve all of this, fwiw.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Some ex-grog on reddit posted:

Hey there, r/paradoxplaza.

Something strange has happened to me.

I've logged thousands of hours in CK2, Vicky II, EU3, EU4, and 50 already in the incomplete mess that is Stellaris (reminds me of when CK2 came out, so I know there are great things ahead) but I think my time with Paradox games might be through.

See, I was recently diagnosed with OCD. My shrink said it was the root of a lot of problems I've been having with obsessively collecting and organizing, and was worried that it could grow into hoarding if left unchecked. So he took me off the meds I was on and started me on something called Luvox.

I felt great. I feel great. But when I sat down during some of my downtime and booted up Stellaris... I couldn't get into it. I played for about half an hour, but the micromanagement wasn't fun anymore, the gameplay felt clunky and stressful. So I closed out of Stellaris and booted up that old standby, CKII. And wouldn't you know it--the same thing. I couldn't get into the big picture and found no joy in the small-scale tweaking. It wasn't disappointment I felt, it was more of a huh, isn't that the queerest thing.

So then I tried Football Manager, which I've been playing much more than I should for a decade. If you haven't played it, you should know that it, too, is heavily based around spreadsheets and micromanagement. And I couldn't even get into that, I found myself simming the game until game day when before I'd be making little tweaks and changes every day.

What I think is going on is that in treating my OCD, this new drug has shown me that my escape games, the ones I dive into for hours at a time unable to pull myself from--that kind of gaming is a symptom of a greater mental health issue. It was playing into my obsessiveness, my determination for detail, my goalless clicking away just to have some kind of control and organization. It's weird, I'd never considered before that these games played into some mental quirk of mine, just that I found solace in them.

I think what it comes down to is managing, organizing, putting into action all of these tiny little things in Paradox games played right into my OCD, and with the medication there is no joy in it anymore.

I'm still pretty confused about the ins and the outs of why this happened and why they're related, and I'm going to miss the hours meticulously micromanaging my empires, but if this is what being mentally sound costs I'll gladly pay the price.

Thanks, Paradox, for being a source of solace in what has been a very noisy, confusing, stressful world.

Now, if you don't mind, I'm off to play Stardew Valley.

https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/4k7thl/yall_might_be_crazy_or_grand_strategy_games/

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Zaodai posted:

It's just weird to read both this thread and the wargame thread. In the wargame thread they joke about the grogs on various official forums for the "real" grog games because they're pedantic autistic lunatics, and then in here there's the same kind of bitching because HoI4 too casual or not realistic enough. The variant system seems to let people make an approximation of what they want, even if they don't get hyper-realistic OOBs and little decorative nameplates for which of the 34 real life variants of whatever tank it was.

If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, and it goes good with soy sauce, it's probably close enough to a duck you can tweak a variant to your liking for dinner.

If it makes you feel better, I had never seen the grogginess here at SA that has been displayed in this thread, and I've reading Paradox threads for years now. Sure, there will be little bursts of spergin', but generally those people are dissuaded by emote quoting posts (which hasn't been happening lately). This really picked up a couple of months ago in the Stellaris thread and then it migrated to here. I don't know what's going on and can only assume the grogs have search filters that let them know as soon as anyone mentions the StuG IIIF/G 1943 Variant 2.

Long story short: I blame everyone registered after 2007.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

PleasingFungus posted:

aw, c'mon, you left out the best part.





look at this thing. look at this ridiculous tank

Wait, is this what you nerds are talking about when you say "assault guns"? Every time the words are brought up my eyes glaze over and I skip the post, but I was pretty sure you guys were bitching about those shooty things you hold that Obama wants to steal from your cold dead hands.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Enjoy posted:

Yeah they are self-propelled guns with lots of armour. Gun being another name for a big cannon. They are basically tanks without rotating turrets.

I know, I was making a joke. For further reading, please refer to my other poorly-made jokes on previous pages, generally mentioning StuG IIIs.

Speaking of StuG IIIs, jesus what a shithouse tank in Warthunder. You think it would be pretty good since its low to the ground, but you'd be wrong.

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Edit: Instead of double-posting, I will edit my post. Continued work on the modern leader heads:

ExtraNoise fucked around with this message at 07:28 on May 27, 2016

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Groogy posted:

This post is awesome. Wished I could add the S-tank to Hoi4 :(


Where is Göran Persson or Ingvar Carlsson? Or even more importantly Olof Palme? :colbert:



You have selected Sweden.

Did you mean: Denmark


WilliamAnderson posted:

Kim Campbell, whyyyyyyy.

Planning for the mod to start on 1 July 1993.


Groogy posted:

I grew up in Sweden and these prime ministers are from long before I was born so I only know the ones Swedish grown ups talked about :saddowns:

jesus i feel old.

ExtraNoise fucked around with this message at 08:00 on May 27, 2016

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

V for Vegas posted:

You have to do Hawke and Keating as well now :australia:







?

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Dreylad posted:

This strikes me more as a gameplay balance thing that helps minors compete than anything else. Only reason I can think of.

This is probably exactly what it is but that's not going to stop the grognards.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Continued work on the modern mod, US holiday special edition. I have no idea if HoI4 has an election system in place (probably not) or if I can get away with just using events (please please please include a way to change leader portraits, Paradox) but I went ahead with creating the potential portraits for the United States presidents.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Funky Valentine posted:

I want to play as Kim Il-sung liberating the Korean people from the barbaric yoke of the Japanese devils.

Glorious Leader Kim Il-Sung will be in the mod, but you'll have to hurry in your effort to make Korea great again because he dies a year after the mod starts.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Phi230 posted:

HoI4 has no supply, resource consumption, or HQs to speak of.

So how is it a wargame?

lol

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

HoI4 modern mod question maybe you guys can help me out with:

Should I stick to using the three ideological factions of World War 2 (fascism, communism, and democracy), or should I consider basically name-swapping to three different ideologies for the early 21st century? And, if so, what should those ideologies be?

I was considering doing something along the lines of replacing fascism with religious autocracy, democracy with secularism, and communism with ??? (as to reflect the rise of radical religious governing bodies, particularly in the Middle East), but I can imagine this would open a huge can of worms that might result in the death of the internet.

Maybe stick to just swapping fascism/fascist with nationalism/autocracy and calling it a day?

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Technically a fourth exists as neutral states.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Puella Magissima posted:

A page late but I'd say make it nationalist/liberal/socialist with somewhat cross-ideological factions, assuming that doesn't break everything. For example, NATO is liberal with some nationalist democracies (socialists would probably want to withdraw), CIS is mostly nationalist dictatorships/dominant-faction democracies, Cuba and pals are socialist dictatorships and democracies, Arab League is a mix of nationalists and sometimes socialists, and so on. That would probably be pretty general and uncontroversial, and I doubt there's a good way to map three ideologies to three factions in the modern world, especially considering you probably want most countries to have at least some internal factional conflict.

These are some great points. Thanks for making them. To clarify, you are using "liberal" in its classical sense, yes? I'm wondering if there is terminology that I could map to these ideologies without making them too politically volatile. (A part of me thinks that this is probably one of the big reasons Paradox has never done a modern simulation - the nationalists and politically sensitives are going to lose their minds no matter what decisions I make. Good thing I don't have to give a poo poo.)

I really need to get my hands on the game so I can start diving into the game files. Waiting four days to pour over .txt files is excruciating!

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Pharnakes posted:

Hype threads are bad.

This is like the opposite of a hype thread.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

More modern mod leader portraits. This is most of them and thought you guys might like to see (I put these together so I can balance the colors). So many, many more to do.



Edit: Props to the Paradox guys (if you read this) for the modding streams. I can't say thank you enough.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

sudo rm -rf posted:

Don't have name for fascist United States yet, though.

For the modern mod, I went with "The Federal States of America" ("Federal States" on the map).

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Enjoy posted:

I was in the beta

:(

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Tuskin38 posted:

Wow, so leader portraits, are 156x210

Which is not a multiple of four, so the Nvidia DDS plugin for Photoshop won't save it.

Tuskin38 posted:

eh, I just increased the height by 2 pixels, it looks fine



This is pretty much the way to go if you're using Photoshop. If you add pixels to make a multiple of 4, apply them to the bottom and right of the image, as I believe Paradox base their image origin at 0,0 (top left corner). Everything outside of that will just not exist. This can get a little weird if you're doing stuff with transparency, though, like interfaces. You've been warned!

Alternatively, I think Paradox uses Paint.Net, of all things. You could just use that if you want.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Gail Wynand posted:

Am I a nazi if I install a realistic Nazi flag mod, I just want a realistic flag :-(

You're probably okay as long as you don't leave a comment on whatever flag mod you subscribed to either condemning the inaccuracy of said flag or something like "14/88 ;)".

Probably.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

I'm seeing all these complaints about portraits in the game and I'm thinking to myself I should put aside my modern mod for a couple of weeks and use the Photoshop action I cooked up to make a bunch of leader portraits. Would you guys like ones that looked similar to this proof of concept?



They wouldn't be color (let's face it, the Paradox artists knocked it out of the park and a single guy couldn't rapidly reproduce work at that level) but they would have a certain aesthetic that I think would look nice if all portraits were done in this style.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007


This sounds like reddit is leaking. They are being awful hard on the game over some pretty stupid poo poo.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

A little more work on the additional leader portraits mod.



Still not quite sure this is something I want to take on. I created a spreadsheet for all the portraits that need to be done and went through all the country files listing the leaders in them. Got A through E and have over 140 portraits to do. Still a lot of other country files to go through.

Fuligin posted:

I really want a WW1 mod.

YES.

The art for the new Battlefield 1 game would make great loading screens:

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Popete posted:

The only similarity is a lack of Peter Dinklage.

Now I want a War of the Five Kings total overhaul mod.

Chump Farts posted:

I don't see a consensus in the OP so I'll ask... is this game... good?

I've been playing map games since literally the first europa universalis. This game is probably the best map game ever made.

(Has some oddities. Things will get better. My praise above doesn't mean this game is perfection. It's just the best.)

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Do we know what happens when two nations with nukes go to war with each other? It hasn't come up in my game yet, but I'm curious.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Tindahbawx posted:

Look at this post on the Paradox forums about how the AI just makes terrible, terrible decisions:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/why-japan-suffers-some-ai-observations.948356/

I feel like SA is the only objective community. We recognize the game has some faults and some things we'd suggest doing a little differently, but we're not losing our minds over PREORDER CANCELING BROKEN GAME BUGS. I attempted to wade into the reddit circlejerk today on just this and it went over about as well as you'd expect:

Some reddit dude posted:

It's called, people having a different opinion than you, nothing baffling about it. What is baffling however, is that you are under the impression that people aren't allowed to criticise games they have problems with.

Because, yes, that's what I said. I, the one guy saying "the game's not that bad guys" is the one who is forcing my opinion down other people's throats and saying they aren't allowed to disagree.

Yeah, okay.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Raenir Salazar posted:

Has Paradox AI development moved beyond spaghetti code of if-else trees? I remember in Hoi2 when I was modding it the code was kinda just a massive if tree of "Is it 1936? Is it 1937? Are we at war with the US? Have we taken 80% of our phase 1 war goals?" Etc etc.

It's totally different now. Now it includes "Is it before 1936?" as well.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

I want to share this because it's taken so much work just to get here. But it works, it works!



Edit: Ofaloaf, I dug through the ideas files and what you have there SHOULD work. Maybe try removing the do_effect and ai_will_do declarations?

ExtraNoise fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jun 16, 2016

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Arrhythmia posted:

I'm the ghost of Osama Bin Laden looking lovingly at 9/11.

that's not a ghost its a giant, mate

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ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Triggerhappypilot posted:

I think you mean "tenets", not "tenants," unless Liberty and Justice are just renting the place for the summer.

Indeed! Thanks.

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