Hammerstein posted:

Not bitching about Paradox but about German laws. Sorry if that came over as weird, but it's a touchy subject where I live.

Frosted Flake posted:

The OOB and TOE could be fleshed out. Military formations without artillery would have been unthinkable in 1916, let alone 1936.

Frosted Flake posted:

I understand that artillery is available as an attachment.

What is surprising is that it is not a default attachment for all nations, and all divisions in 1936, and also that it costs XP to get organic artillery (within a regiment) that lowers Org, and is also not a default in 1936.

It's just weirdly anachronistic.

Frosted Flake posted:

DD's plus all the World War Wednesdays.

Danial is playing France in 1936 right now, and French Infantry Divisions start without artillery. That's mind mindbogglingly inaccurate.

Frosted Flake posted:

No regimental artillery.

I think earlier in the playthrough there was no divisional, but it's hard to find it on youtube.

French Division 1940

Frosted Flake posted:

They're not part of a division, that would be the big difference.

Pharnakes posted:

A tank corps in HOI terms is surely just multiple tank divisions operating close to each other? Has there been any detailed info released on how the chain of command is going to work this time round?

StarMinstrel posted:

As a newbie that only played bits of HOI2, how will tanks differ from one country to the other if a medium tank technology is the same for everyone? Is it going to be through National focuses, doctrines and advisors bonuses?

I'm just curious of how much it is possible to specialize in one field.

Psychotic Weasel posted:

The Germans can also create variants of their Übermensch once you get far enough into the tech tree.

Hammerstein posted:

I dunno, but since Germany produced more Stugs than Tigers&Panthers combined, then it might be worth modeling that weapon system. See also: Soviets and the SU- and ISU series....

Democrazy posted:

What would be the purpose of adding an assault gun into a division, in gameplay terms?

Phi230 posted:

Came in to see like 40 new posts

All about loving assault gun drama

Fantastic, keep up the good work. Almost 7 days left! Gotta poo poo up the thread even worse until release day.

Gamerofthegame posted:

apparently

and i say apparently with the flattest tone ever conceived by man

but apparently they took it down because it lead to a dude's nazi channel except the channel wasn't pro-nazi at all it just kinda looked that way from the titles and people got all frowny because of that

apparently

the mod itself is bad tho

Frosted Flake posted:

Something less expensive than a tank with tank armour and a tank gun is pretty obviously distinct from either expensive thinly armoured indirect fire weapon systems, or dedicated tank destroyers.

ArchangeI posted:

You don't think a high armor, high soft attack vehicle would fill a different niche from a high armor, high hard attack vehicle and a low armor, high soft attack vehicle?

GaussianCopula posted:

Assault guns would be cheaper than tanks, would have a huge bonus defensively against tanks but a malus offensively against tanks while at the same time hardening an infantry division against other infantry divisions.

ArchangeI posted:

For facing infantry with good At weapons, which would destroy SPART in short order?

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

There's two different types of damage, soft damage for anti-infantry, and unarmoured vehicles and hard damage for armoured targets.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Except there's two types of defence too? Hard vulnerability and soft vulnerability. Which is what the damages check against.

e:Just to be clear I couldn't give a single gently caress about Paradox modelling assault guns, or not, but the niche they'd apparently fill would be able to be modeled with HoI's stats.

dtkozl posted:

Historically they were used for taking out fixed fortifications like bunkers so they should get a bonus to that.

Kaza42 posted:

Probably a low Breakthrough. That seems to be the ability of an attacking unit to reduce damage

Spiderfist Island posted:

What's the NATO symbol for Airship Carriers / Airship Bombers? We're going to need one if only for the inevitable WWI / Crimson Skies mods that add them as units.

dtkozl posted:

I think a game where we have 5 different abstractions of tanks isn't one that is strict on only having a single unit fill a niche. Having something that provides the engineer bonus plus hardness wouldn't be a bad idea.

ExtraNoise posted:

Wait, is this what you nerds are talking about when you say "assault guns"? Every time the words are brought up my eyes glaze over and I skip the post, but I was pretty sure you guys were bitching about those shooty things you hold that Obama wants to steal from your cold dead hands.

wukkar posted:

Obama looks whiter than Paul.

LostCosmonaut posted:

Get a 25 tile Gaia planet adjacent to my home system, so naturally the game compensates by having an anomaly blow up my science ship a year later. Still, think I came out ahead.

Phi230 posted:

HoI4 has no supply, resource consumption, or HQs to speak of.

So how is it a wargame?

Tuskin38 posted:

Huh, there are supplies and resources.

bewbies posted:

Any realistic depiction of military logistics would very quickly change a piece of software from "game" to "work you don't get paid for".

Top Hats Monthly posted:

Whens the embargo up?

Top Hats Monthly posted:

The Narrator posted:

Was there ever actual relationship effects between (say) a Leninist country and a Radical Leftist country in previous HoIs? For that matter, was there ever potential for interesting effects from having ministers that weren't aligned with your party (e.g. a National Socialist country having a Paternal Autocrat minister)? The party popularity/organisation in HoI3 also seemed like it could've been interesting and fun, but there was never really much way to interact with the system, so it was mostly fun for the computer to process it.

That poster also can't seem to consider that a country's "democratic" party popularity can just be broadly representative of those countries' Social Democrat-Social Liberal-Market Liberal-Social Conservative parties anyway.

Also I'd argue that the game reducing things to "axis vs allies" [vs comintern] helps the theme in the same way it does in Twilight Struggle.

ExtraNoise posted:

HoI4 modern mod question maybe you guys can help me out with:

Should I stick to using the three ideological factions of World War 2 (fascism, communism, and democracy), or should I consider basically name-swapping to three different ideologies for the early 21st century? And, if so, what should those ideologies be?

I was considering doing something along the lines of replacing fascism with religious autocracy, democracy with secularism, and communism with ??? (as to reflect the rise of radical religious governing bodies, particularly in the Middle East), but I can imagine this would open a huge can of worms that might result in the death of the internet.

Maybe stick to just swapping fascism/fascist with nationalism/autocracy and calling it a day?