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Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011




I'm guessing we need to open a TIME hole and talk to the girl in the flashback.

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FishOnAPiano
Oct 9, 2012


Things I have learned from this LP

-It's "Draw the line, and turn the time" not "Draw the line, and turn the tide"

-EVERYONE IS NAMED AFTER NUMBERS HOW DID I MISS THAT WHEN I PLAYED

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!


Ethan's last name apparently translates to "The right time" as well.

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

without love it cannot be seen


Update 5: ...Why have you gone away?



We search around for Emily for a while, and eventually find her at the station.



*Conversation: Emily*
: Emily?
: Huh...!?
: Looking for Ashley, huh?
: Er, y-yes, I am. But how did you know my name...?
: What? What do you mean?
: (Huh...? Doesn't she remember talking to me earlier?)
: You must have heard it from Ashley, when the two of us were talking about your present. Isn't that right?
: Oh, er...yeah. Something like that.
: (Wait a minute...It's not that Emily doesn't remember our conversation...)
: (it's that our conversation never even happened!)

: It's...
: It's all my fault that Ashley went missing...
: Your fault? Why?
: Well...er...
: (I should ask Emily about that flashback.)



*Question: Did something happen to Ashley?*
: We were saving up for your present...But when it came time to buy it, Ashley said she didn't have the money.
: I'm sure she must really have lost it somewhere, like she said... B-but I...I didn't believe her...and I called her every name in the book.
: And you pushed her away, right?
: !? How did you know...!?
: Oh, uh...I just figured it was something like that...
: You're right. That's exactly what happened. Then Ashley got angry and ran off somewhere...





First time we've gotten more than one new option at once. Let's take them in order.

*Question: Where did you two argue?*
: It was in front of Chronos, where everyone puts their bikes.
: Chronos, eh...
: (That's our usual hangout.)

*Question: When was this argument?*
: It was the day before yesterday... Right around 7 at night.

: I think I've got it. Thanks.
: (So she doesn't know where Ashley went...)
: ...Ashley...
: Don't cry, Emily. Ashley'll be back.
: I know...I know she will...But still...
: Why don't you wait at home for any news? You'll just catch a cold crying out here all day.
: You're right...thank you, Ethan.

And she leaves.

: (Looks like that conversation Emily and I had never happened.)
: (Wait a second--so that means...the present I got "yesterday" would have disappeared, too...?)

Our new information lets us clear up that flashback.

Flashback: Chronos Argument posted:



Ethan: (...Now I know what happened to those two, thanks to Emily. ...Isn't there anything I can do?)

It's worth noting that we can head over to the Chronos bike area to start a Digging session, but Ethan won't let us open a Hole there because he has nothing he can do.

So off we go to his room to check on the status of our erstwhile present.


*Outside Ethan's House*
: (Hey, I should go see if it's still in my room...)

*Ethan's Room*


*Empty Shelf*
: (I knew it--my present is gone.)



: (The past has transformed...into a world where I never got that clock. ...A Pen that can change the past...)
: (What will this Hollow Pen let me do...?)
: (I might be able to do something if it were glowing.)
: (...I have to make things right, or Ashley might...)





Fun fact: I actually got stuck on this for a bit due to not investigating enough the first time. We need a way of contacting Kori. There's been one mentioned, so let's go there. But first, let's check on the other members of our search party. Ben's in the Station, and Morris in the courtyard.



: Aw, Ben...
: I heard Ashley's friend was around here...The one with the glasses. You know her, don't you?
: (He must mean Emily.) Emily? Yeah, I talked to her a little while ago.
: You did!? What did she say?
: She has no idea where Ashley went.
: Oh...okay...
: Ben...
: Let's look around just a little more--what do you say? I'll have to go home eventually, but until then...
: Sure--I'll poke around some more too.
: Sounds good. See ya!

*School Courtyard*
: Hey, Morris--any luck in the classrooms?



: Got it.

We head to where the paper with Kori's contact info was.

*Bulletin board note*
: Here it is--Kori's contact info.
: (Kori's presence means the past has changed. She might know something after all.)
: (...What should I do...?)
: (...Less thinking, more doing, Ethan. Call her already!)

There's the sound of some numbers being punched, and a dial tone.



Ethan: Kori? This is--
Kori: Ethan, right? I recognize your voice.

Never mind that she's only heard us once.

Ethan: Er, yeah. This is Ethan Kairos.
Kori: What do you want?
Ethan: I, um, wanted to ask you a few things about the memo you left on the bulletin board.
Kori: Oh, that. Are you still at school?
Ethan: I'm right in front of the bulletin board.
Kori: I'll be there in a sec.

She hangs up.

: (Phew...)
: (Doesn't sound like the friendliest girl on the block...)

===

: Here she comes!



: Whatever "fell out", was that the day before yesterday?
: Yeah, at lunch.
: Do you know who dropped it?



: She bumped into me and dropped it. She was racing through the hall at the time.
: (Sounds like Ashley...)
: And what was inside the envelope? Money, right?
: ...Yeah, money. I didn't know what to do.
: I could have given it to her, but I didn't know where she went.
: So I posted my contact info here.
: (Definitely Ashley.)
: That envelope belongs to a friend of mine. But she hasn't been at school lately...
: ...? The girl everyone's been talking about? I heard she went missing or something.
: Yeah. Or something. Can I give her the envelope?



: I REALLY am.
: (She doesn't trust me. Can I prove it to her somehow?)

And who better to look to for proof than her brother?

*Vin's House*
: ...What is it?
: Oh...nothing really. (Vin's taking this hard...)
: ...You wanna see something?
: What is it?
: A picture...Ashley's picture.
: Oh, sure...let me take a look.
: Here.
: Wow...you sure have a lot of them.
: I guess...Which one's her best?
: Wow, I couldn't choose...
: (It's like he's getting ready for a memorial service...)

{Soundtrack: Silence}





: What?
: It's just...I'm in this one. Me and you and Ashley...



: (This is just the proof I need!)
: Hey, Vin...mind if I borrow this picture for a while?
: ...Go ahead.
: Thanks. I promise I'll give it back.
: Whatever...



Ashley's Photo posted:


With proof in hand, back to Kori we go.



: Oh, yeah...that's her, all right. So she's Vin's sister, huh?
: Uh-huh. Things are really tough for Vin right now, so if I could have that envelope...
: ...All right. I'll call if anything comes up. Can I reach you at this number?

There's the sound of...something. I think it's supposed to be Kori punching the number into her phone.

: Yeah, sure. Just give me a ring.
: So...it'd be a good idea if she were to find this, right?



Envelope posted:


: Uh-huh. Thanks.



Ethan: ...Huh? What do you mean?

And she just up and leaves.

Ethan: (Rats...I'll have to talk to her again later. First I've got to do something with the envelope Kori gave me.)
: (It would be better if Ashley had never dropped this envelope.)
: (If I could give it to the Ashley back in the past...)
: That would have to change something, right...?)

With our envelope, that now lets us fill in the last piece we need for our school lockers flashback. We got the time from random male student, and the details from Kori. We're all clear now.

Flashback: Ashley at Lockers posted:


Ethan: (It was an envelope Ashley was looking for.)


I guess it's time for a vote. We have two spots where our Pen glows, so I need to know which one we're going with and (technically) what we're doing. Here's what we've got:

*Hole: Chronos Argument*
: This is where Ashley and Emily had their argument...And all over my missing birthday present money. ... Wish I could do something for her...)

*Hole: Lost Money at School*

Make your choice.

Cyouni fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Mar 16, 2017

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich


Chronos argument. Stopping a dumb argument about a person not being able to buy a gift because of bad circumstances seems like a pretty worthwhile thing to do.

Keldulas
Mar 18, 2009


Not going to vote since I seen at least up to here in the previous LP. Just chipping in that it's nice to see an LP of this again.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011




Lost money

She finds the money, she doesn't have the argument, she buys the clock, time fixed, crisis averted.

mateo360
Mar 20, 2012

TOO MANY PEOPLE MERLOCK!
ONLY ONE DIJON!


Cyouni posted:

EmilySurprise: Huh...!?

Not sure if this is on purpose but this happens quite a few times in the first half of the update with Emily and Ben

also your quote for Ashley's Photo just says <Item4>

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

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mateo360 posted:

Not sure if this is on purpose but this happens quite a few times in the first half of the update with Emily and Ben

also your quote for Ashley's Photo just says <Item4>

Apparently my find/replace missed a few things. Fixed.

WFGuy
Feb 18, 2011

Press X to jump, then press X again!


Toilet Rascal

So it looks like Kori knows something about the time travelling/dimension muckery, because that was a very specific way of phrasing "It's all my fault."

I'm going to vote Lost Money. It's possible that the male student could intentionally cause problems if we try to fix it there, but it's significantly before the argument, and they might be so invested in the argument anyway that returning the money at that point doesn't help much.

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

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Update 6: Cookie Counter

And the choice has been made. Let's see how it turns out.

*School Lockers*
Ethan: (All right! The Pen's glowing!)



===





Oh, if you somehow screw up 12 times this early and run out of Time as a result, you do get a Game Over. It's not very spectacular, so I'm not showing it off - just a black screen and a one-liner before you're kicked back to the main menu. I assume this happens all the time, but it's boring to test and so easily avoidable that it's not really ever going to happen, especially since your Time bar fully refills between chapters.

But before we get to time-fixing, let's quickly mention one other thing. The idea has been thrown around that you can open a Hole and talk to someone on the other end. Unfortunately, this is impossible. Why?




Yep. While a Hole's open, time's frozen, leaving Ethan the only one who can move around freely. So there's that. There's another reason, but we'll talk about that more later. Now let's do what we came here for.





: (It's after school the day before yesterday on the other side...)
: (Now if only Ashley would find that envelope...)

And we're done. We close the Hole, and...

Ethan: Whoa!

===



===

{Soundtrack: Silence}



: (What's going on?)

The window slides open.



: Mrowr!
: Oh, it's Sox.
: Look, if you're going to open the window, close it when you're done. ...Probably too much to ask.
: (Hey, it's Vin!)
: Vin!



Ethan: Huh...!?

===


{Video: Vin and Ashley}

===



: (Chipper as always, I see. ...Thank goodness.)
: (Oh, yeah--whatever happened to my present...?)



Cookies posted:


: (So this is what it wound up turning into, eh?)
: (I guess they found the envelope too late to do any shopping.)



Ethan: (I'm just positive it can help my parents too... If I collect all the clues I can find and go in search of more flashbacks...)
Ethan: (...!)
Ethan: (I get it! The Pen starts to glow once I gather all the clues together!)

If you haven't figured it out by this point, this means it requires all the details of a relevant flashback to be confirmed. This is the other reason we couldn't talk to Emily in a flashback - the only flashback she was in was the one we needed to ask her about the details.

Ethan: (So if I get enough clues... I should be able to bring Mom and Dad back home...!)



I time-travelled to the future to clean up some things.

Flashback: No Argument posted:


Ethan: (Where Ashley and Emily DIDN'T get into an argument...)



Flashback: Cookie-Baking Duo posted:


Ethan: (But it was so late in the day, they wound up giving me a different present after all.)



Flashback: Birthday Gift posted:




Cyouni fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Mar 17, 2017

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011




Well we didn't get a fancy as gently caress clock, but I'm sure Ethan can appreciate home made cookies. I'm guessing that hut was where Ashley was being held.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011



Next up, Ethan will resolve who ate the last icecream left in the freezer.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!


Cyouni posted:

Oh, if you somehow screw up 12 times this early and run out of Time as a result, you do get a Game Over. It's not very spectacular, so I'm not showing it off - just a black screen and a one-liner before you're kicked back to the main menu. I assume this happens all the time, but it's boring to test and so easily avoidable that it's not really ever going to happen, especially since your Time bar fully refills between chapters.

There's also something else that prevents you from running out easily, though I've only ever seen it rarely. I'll spoiler tag it in case you intended to bring it up later.

When you're wandering around, you'll sometimes find Sox and he'll find some item or something, I can't remember what it's called, that refills your time gauge a little.

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

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Hobgoblin2099 posted:

There's also something else that prevents you from running out easily, though I've only ever seen it rarely. I'll spoiler tag it in case you intended to bring it up later.

When you're wandering around, you'll sometimes find Sox and he'll find some item or something, I can't remember what it's called, that refills your time gauge a little.

Yep, that's a required scene in Chapter 2, so I'll reference it more when we get to that point.

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

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Update 7: Dropped Off





: (Now, where can I get info on Mom and Dad...?)

There's the sound of running in the background.



: Whoa!



: C'mon, Ethan!
: Wh-where to?
: Where else?
: B-but I...
: Oh, come on, already!
: ...Okay, but not for long.
: Roger! Let's hit the road!

There's the sound of bells as we screen-change.



???: Hello!



Ben: Much obliged. And I'll have my usual, Olivia.
Olivia: Everyone want the usual?
Vin: You bet.
Morris: Yes, please!
Ethan: I-I guess so. Sure, why not.



: (This is the Chronos cafe--our favorite hangout. Why this place? Well...)



: Crepes and milk for Ben, coffee for Vin and Ethan...

There's the clatter of plates as she sets stuff down.

: ...and hibiscus tea for Morris.



: Yes! Finally!
: (We come here because Ben has a crush on Olivia. Plus, the coffee is cheap and tasty--and bottomless too.)
: (Uncle Derek's coffee is all right, I suppose... But you just can't beat a specialty shop like this one.)
: (...... I'll only stay a little longer. I know there aren't any clues for me here.)

*Man reading newspaper*


Ethan: (Are we too loud? I feel like we're bugging him.)

*Woman at counter*


*Conversation: Ben*


Ben: But I'd be careful walking home alone at night dressed like that. How about I walk you to the train station? If this place closes at 8:30... ...and I'm out front waiting for you at 8:40...
Vin: .......
Morris: ...Give it a rest.
Vin: Must be Olivia's bike--you know, the orange one parked outside.
Ben: C'mon, guys! It was a joke! What's wrong with you, anyway?

*Conversation: Vin*


*Conversation: Morris*


Olivia comes back just after we're done examining the place.

: Listen to this, Ben--I had a brush with death yesterday!
: Wha-a-at!? D-did someone attack you...?
: You mean, like a stalker? Me? Ha! C'mon, as if. So anyway...

I dunno, you might want to watch out for Ben...

: Yesterday on my way home, I saw a truck lose its load right in front of me, like--BANG!
: Then what?
: I squeezed my bike's brakes, like--screeeeech! Finally I managed to stop,
: but all that stuff still came tumbling down, like boom--KaBoom!
: Yikes!
: (I don't really understand what she's getting at, but it sounds crazy! So that means the bicycle outside must belong to Olivia.)
: Good thing your brakes worked, eh?
: If they didn't, I'd be working at that big cafe in the sky!
: And you guys would be at my funeral right now! Ha ha ha! Oh, that's terrible!
: I don't even want to think about that!



: ...

And Mr. Newspaper heads out the door, the bells clanging as he does so.

: Thank you very much!
: ...Might be time to tone it down a little, guys.
: (Gee, ya think?)
: Olivia, could you clean up that table, please?
: I'm on it!
: (I'd better be on my way... I'm not gathering any info by sitting around this place.)

{Soundtrack: Silence}

: (...!!)



===


{Video: Chapter 2 Opening}

===



===





*Chronos door*


: I got a call from the owner... There was an accident yesterday... Olivia... She said... that's why... they're closed today...
: Olivia...?



: Did...did she get into an accident on her bike?
: Don't ask me! How am I supposed to know?
: Calm down, Ben!
: Calm down!? How can you expect me to calm down at a time like this!? In fact, why are YOU GUYS so calm, huh?
: Hey, Ben...
: ...I mean...I'm just a kid!

Again, left to right.

*Conversation: Vin*
: Why her? Why Olivia...?

*Conversation: Ben*
: Dammit...!

*Conversation: Morris*
: ......
: (Morris is taking it pretty hard too...)

: (I'd be upset myself--if I didn't have the Hollow Pen, that is. I know a future where Olivia lives. And if the Pen starts to glow... I can make it so that the accident never happened.)
: (Maybe I should straighten out the details first...)
: (Olivia's accident happened at the intersection. I should check it out.)

When we head back to the town map, a new location's available. We're heading straight there.



*Intersection*
: (This is it--where yesterday's accident was. It's already been cleaned up.)



Ethan: (If only I could do something at the time of that flashback...)
???: A little...late, aren't you, to be changing this place?
: !!
: K-Kori...





: You can't very well expect to help someone in that condition.
: What are you talking about...?
: ...!! (I get it! The Olivia that's beyond the Hole is already...)
: ...Then...what should I do?
: What, indeed.
: Maybe poke around even further back?
: Further...back?
: You know--sometime before the accident ever happens.
: Oh...right...
: (I've got to find another way to fix this...)

While he's thinking, Kori walks off.

: Thanks a lot, Kor--eh?
: (She's gone...)

Cyouni fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Mar 17, 2017

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!



Cyouni posted:

: Good thing your brakes worked, eh?
: If they didn't, I'd be working at that big cafe in the sky!
: And you guys would be at my funeral right now! Ha ha ha! Oh, that's terrible!

===



That's a bit on-the-nose, isn't it?

E: Oh right the game doesn't actually stop there does it. The LP format does funny things to VNs.

AlphaKretin fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Jun 6, 2016

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

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I added a quick update to move the end to a better place to stop.

I'm also going to actually update the characters post, since it became significantly more relevant as of now.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!


AlphaKretin posted:

That's a bit on-the-nose, isn't it?

She might as well have mentioned that she was two days away from retirement.

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

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AlphaKretin posted:

E: Oh right the game doesn't actually stop there does it. The LP format does funny things to VNs.
It actually does stop there, I just added that extra part to give people a chance to guess at the solution before I play through it.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

She might as well have mentioned that she was two days away from retirement.
"When I get back, I'm going to get married."

Cyouni fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Jun 6, 2016

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011




You know, I kinda wish you didn't tell me that the Shadow of Destiny guy made this because I can sure as poo poo see the parallels. So our antagonist will be the white-gloved man,

poo poo

I can't really make SoD jokes because I bet most people haven't played it so I would be ruining the story if I say anything.

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

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SSNeoman posted:

You know, I kinda wish you didn't tell me that the Shadow of Destiny guy made this because I can sure as poo poo see the parallels. So our antagonist will be the white-gloved man,

poo poo

I can't really make SoD jokes because I bet most people haven't played it so I would be ruining the story if I say anything.

There's a LP to solve that problem.

HenryEx
Mar 24, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...


Grimey Drawer

A bigass newspaper and white gloves, huh? Way to make yourself stand out, idiot.


No one wears gloves in a cafe


edit: There's also a pretty good retsupurae of Shadow of Destiny, or whatever you call it. Makes the game hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo4M1tlpv9rupsbxLuYHnfJ7oW3d5R05r

HenryEx fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jun 6, 2016

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.



Clapping Larry

I was going to bust out with this big dramatic speech about how you go your entire life without ever hitting time travelers, but then I realized, if you couldn't, and you met them, would you ever know?

HenryEx
Mar 24, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...


Grimey Drawer

Glazius posted:

I was going to bust out with this big dramatic speech about how you go your entire life without ever hitting time travelers, but then I realized, if you couldn't, and you met them, would you ever know?

Only if the time traveller explicitly wants to show you that they do, i guess.


I actually just rewatched the first episode of the retsupurae Shadows of Destiny playthrough, and i was wrong: It doesn't make the game hilarious, the game already was.
Eike is just about the biggest idiot ever gifted with time travel powers. I mean, Ethan sure isn't the most efficient problem solver given what he can do, but he's a regular Stephen Hawking compared to Eike. (Also Ethan tries to prevent the death of others, while Eike just tries to prevent his own death)

if you don't believe me, just watch the last 90 seconds of the first video, from 40:10 in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBBUQPn3dyU#t=2410s

WFGuy
Feb 18, 2011

Press X to jump, then press X again!


Toilet Rascal

I like that Ethan has already started to jump into this time-hole business with both feet. He's not going "Oh no, what a tragedy, we will miss her," he's immediately planning - in his fumbling, novice way - how to 'fix' the problem and doing the legwork to make it happen.

It's a shame that the only two other people aware of time travel right now are a cat and an overly-cryptic teenager with a Batman-vanishing complex - he could do with someone to talk to about this.

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.


WFGuy posted:

I like that Ethan has already started to jump into this time-hole business with both feet. He's not going "Oh no, what a tragedy, we will miss her," he's immediately planning - in his fumbling, novice way - how to 'fix' the problem and doing the legwork to make it happen.

Yeah, I appreciate the lack of moping in the game so far. He sees a problem and is like, "Alright let's screw with Time and fix this poo poo, yee haw".

GilliamYaeger
Jan 10, 2012

Call Gespenst!


Cafe lady talks about how she almost died in a traffic accident the night before.

White gloved man leaves immediately after overhearing that.

Shortly afterwards we're booted to a timeline where she died in a traffic accident the night before.

I think we've got a time traveling serial killer here.

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

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Update 8: Unexpected Consequences



So our first order of business is to find a helpful flashback that we can work with. In order to qualify, it must be: a) related to Chronos, and b) before the accident. There's only one that fits the bill.

Flashback: No Argument posted:


Ethan: (Where Ashley and Emily DIDN'T get into an argument...)
Ethan: (Emily's accident was last night, after the cafe closed... So if I open a Hole at the time of this flashback, I might be able to prevent it.)



The naming error is in the game's text, not mine. But we're missing one piece to do work with that Hole. That's the time. So we need to find someone who'd know about the time for that.

The two we're looking for are outside the Library. According to its description, it's also a popular meeting place.


*Library*


: (...It's Ashley and Emily...)



I'm pretty sure this is the only spot these portraits are used, making this a minor hassle.

*Conversation: Ashley/Emily*
: Say, about that present you gave me...
: Oh? Yes?
: Something wrong with it?
: Were you two...talking about something in the Chronos parking lot the other night?
: Y-you mean, you saw us?!
: We were discussing your present.
: How could you spy on us like that? You should have said something!
: Anyway...do you remember about what time that was?
: What, don't you know? You were there, too!
: Well, actually...
: ...Hmm...I'd say we were there until about 7:10 PM.
: (She remembered!)
: Seriously?
: Really?
: Yes, really. It got so late while we were talking that we couldn't go shopping...



: Uh-huh. That's why we were so flustered...
: (7:10 PM, eh?)
: Thanks. That's really helpful.
: Huh? Is that all?

Now, I would be remiss if I went without mentioning a feature that could make your life easier (that I totally didn't realize existed until I checked for the sake of this LP). If you talk to Emily/Ashley again...



*Conversation: Ashley*
: Emily's been into some weird fortune-telling stuff lately.
: Stuff like pinpointing places that seem especially fateful...

*Conversation: Ashley, reprise*
: Emily's fortune-telling is surprisingly accurate...

*Conversation: Emily*

: Location-wise, I'd say...um... Near Chronos...maybe... ?

It's so accurate, in fact, that it can tell you where the Hole you need to open is. I'm not sure how long this lasts, but while it's available it's a pretty nice feature that you can take advantage of.

So, armed with our new information, we fix up the flashback and move on to the Hole location near Chronos.


Flashback: No Argument posted:


Ethan: (If I do something at this time, I might just be able to save Olivia...)





===





: (Even Ben and the rest of the gang...)
: (What a sight--right out of a movie or a comic book!)
: (...Never mind that. Got to find out what caused that accident.)

While we're poking around, we make a bit of a mistake.



*Examine*




Emily's Glasses posted:


Let's try that again.



*Examine*
Ethan: (This is Olivia's bicycle, I'm sure of it. ...Huh?)



Ethan: (A nice clean cut too. This was no accident. If it was just a prank, it's a pretty lousy one!)
Ethan: (What should I do? I can't fix the brakes. I've got to find another way to keep her off this bike... I shouldn't damage it more just because I don't want her to ride it again...)



It's even got a dog pig hanging off it.

Ethan: (Hey, I know...I'll just pocket the key. If I've headed off the accident, I should be all set.)



Bicycle Key posted:


And then all that's left is to close the Hole.

: (She shouldn't be able to ride the bike like this...)

And we're all fine and dand-

===



===

Hrm. That didn't look quite right.





: Did you hear? There was an accident yesterday--at the intersection.
: I was walking home yesterday when it happened, like-- bang!
: (That's Olivia's voice. She sounds just fine! Phew...)
: You mean a traffic accident? W-were there any fatalities?
: Yeah, a dog... I saw it with my own eyes...

{Soundtrack: Silence}

: !?
: Huh?
: A dog?
: ...A...dog...



: (Wait just a second... Did...did I do that?)
: This truck lost its load--and that's when disaster struck.
: This kid was hurt, and the dog he had with him was killed.



: ...A dog...was killed...
: ...Ben...
: I know you're all thinking about Shiloh right now.
: Let bygones be bygones, Ben. That wasn't your fault.
: C'mon--it's ancient history.
: Easy for you to say! It wasn't your turn to watch him!
: Huh? What're you talking about?
: (This never happened...before. Looks like I didn't fix it properly. I've got to do something!)
: Sorry, guys--I gotta go.

*Town Map*
Ethan: (I can't believe I actually caused a DIFFERENT accident...! ...I have to make sure this one never happened too.)

Flashback: No Argument (No glasses version) posted:


Flashback: Truck in Alley posted:


Flashback: Dog Accident posted:


===

So now we also have a new choice to make: what should we do with Emily's glasses? Return them, or hold onto them?

This vote will remain open a little longer than the last - probably a bit into the next chapter.

Cyouni fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Mar 17, 2017

Glaive17
Oct 11, 2012

What is there left to discover about donuts...?


Pillbug

I say Keep Them. I'm sure nothing can go wrong with stealing glasses off of someone's face while they are in the middle of a conversation.

I really like this game, I haven't played it in years, though.

HenryEx
Mar 24, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...


Grimey Drawer

Just keep them. What's a time-traveling teenager that doesn't use his powers to play a prank or two on his friends?

I mean, what's the worst that could happen?

Crepuscule Adepte
Feb 21, 2008

Why is my hair purple? It's from the blood of everyone that lost a bet against me.


Come on, don't be a dick. As a glasses wearer, losing your glasses is like a nightmare and you're constantly stuck trying to remember where you put them and questioning "what the hell did I do to lose them?" But nope, it turns out it's just some jackass stealing them from beyond time and space. It's not like anyone but the wearer can use them comfortably in today's era of prescription glasses.

Return them.

...And while I'm at it, how do you accidentally pull the glasses of someone's head? The frames wrap around the ear!

Crepuscule Adepte fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jun 9, 2016

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

without love it cannot be seen


Crepuscule Adepte posted:

...And while I'm at it, how do you accidentally pull the glasses of someone's head? The frames wrap around the ear!

Intentionally, that's how. It's hard to get a good image of it, but if you read quickly the text for the Examine says "It should be easy to get them".

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011




Return them because come on. Don't be a dick to Emily.

Maybe we should sabotage the truck. That should solve all the problems, at the expense of the poor delivery guy.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.



Keep the glasses because it's funny

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

REAL TOP DOG SHIT
We Have Unlocked Woke Junpei Mode
Fuck Up Cops 2020
Beloved Forums Poster
Evolved Heightened Level Junpei
Junpei Is Not Ironic And That Is Why He Is Good

Return the glasses. Not cool, man.

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

without love it cannot be seen


Update 9: Memory Check



Maybe the intersection has some clues this time.



Let's look at the memorial first, then talk to the kid.

*Memorial*


*Conversation: Boy*
: (Could that be...?)





: Say, did you hurt your hand in a traffic accident yesterday...?

I haven't really brought it up before, but Ethan really has a thing for using flashbacks to obviously know more than he should.

: I'm not supposed to talk to strangers.
: Oops--sorry about that. I'm Ethan Kairos.



That was...easy. That kind of invalidates the whole point of "don't talk to strangers".

: Okay...Jacob. Were you in an accident here yesterday?
: Uh-huh...and my dog Lucky died. So I was bringing him some treats.
: (This is the boy, all right--the same one from my flashback.) Jacob, do you remember what kind of car caused the accident?
: Nuh-uh.
: Oh, okay...
: But it had a refrigerator on it.
: It fell on top of Lucky.
: A refrigerator, huh...?
: (Loaded onto a flatbed, maybe? So it might have been a truck...)
: That truck carrying the fridge--do you know which way it came from?
: ...Ummm...

: (So it must have come right through there... I seem to remember the road was kind of on a slope...)
: Got it. Thanks, Jacob.
: Sure. I'm going home now. Bye.
: Bye!

Jacob leaves. Now, I don't know about anyone else, but this confused me for a while, as I thought this meant there's a new spot on the town map. Turns out it's just another screen hidden inside the Intersection area.





: (Maybe one of the people from my flashback can tell me.)

This is pretty easy. Who do we know was near the scene of the accident?

On our way there, we run into this at the Intersection:




: Mrowrrrr...
: (Huh? That cat has the same markings as Sox.)
: Mrowr!
: Wait a second...Sox? Is that you?
: Mrowr.

I miss Trails in the Sky's cat-dictionary.

: (What's Sox doing all the way out here?)
: Mrowrrrr!!
: What is it? Hey...what have you got there?



Ethan: (That light--the color... It looks just like the Hollow Pen! Where could Sox have found something like this, anyway?)
Sox: Mrowrrrr...
Ethan: !!!



Ethan: Whoa! What the--!? (Where'd it go?)
Sox: Mrowrowr.
Ethan: That ball of light--did...did it get sucked up into the Pen?
Sox: Mrowr.

Here we're introduced to the 'chrons'. These are noted as falling out when someone uses the Pen to change the past, and they refill one of your Pen's twelve uses. This is the last reason it's hilariously easy to avoid losing, because these can be farmed pretty easily so long as you know the standard locations.

The trick is that it's always outside, and it may be more likely at Hole locations. Standard spots to collect them are outside Ethan's house, the garbage dump, Chronos bike rack, the intersection, and the alleyway. I think the park's available as a location as well, but it's been a while so I may be wrong on that. Regardless, it's not hard to find him if you're specifically looking, though you may need to do a quick camera pan to make sure he's not hiding. With this, we have basically infinite Pen uses to do whatever we want.


: (Hey...I feel...a little lighter, maybe?)
: ...Mrowr.

Sox runs off.

: Hey, Sox...?
: (Where'd he go...?)

Not pictured: me refilling my other use of the Pen at the Chronos bike rack. Detour aside, we get back to our original task.



*Chronos*

: Oh, er...I just...
: Your friends have all gone home.
: They sure did look bummed out. What happened?
: (Bummed out...? Oh--because I changed the past...)
: ...Bummed out, eh?
: So? What's up?
: Actually, Olivia, I need to ask you something...
: Ooh! You want to know if I like you?
: N-no! That's not it at all!
: Ha ha ha! Gotcha! Aw, you're blushing! How cute is that? You don't have to be shy around me. C'mon, what is it?
: ...Um, so...I'd like to ask you...



*Question: Do you know about the accident at the intersection?*
: I mean, you told us about it. I'm just checking to see if you forgot.
: Oh, yeah--the accident yesterday. The one where the dog was killed.

*Question: Do you remember seeing a truck in the alley?*
: A truck? In the alley?? Ummmm...
: (Doesn't look like she remembers much at all.)
: (Let me ask her something else.)



*Question: Do you remember seeing a person in the alley?*
: A person? In the alley? Last night?
: Yes--she had a sweatshirt with hearts on it and her hair tied up like this...
: ......!
: Aha! That's who it was! Sara!
: Huh?
: Sara Tenneson. She works at the library. That's right--we passed each other in the alley last night!
: (Sara, from the library...I should talk to her.)
: Thanks a lot, Olivia.
: Huh? That's all you wanted?
: Yep, that's all. See you later.
: Okay! Come again!

She probably thinks we're crazy now. Oh well. To the library!



*Outside Library*


: (Oh, yeah...I should give Emily her glasses.)

We'll be prompted like this (and get the option) every time we enter this area from the map.



: (It's Sara...)
: (At least, that's what Olivia said. ...Better talk to her.)
: Er...
: Yes?
: Yesterday, at this intersection...
: Yes, there was an accident.
: And it involved a truck...
: Yes, that's right. Did you see it, too?
: (I knew it! She's the woman from my flashback!)
: (Totally not what I pictured, though.)
: ...Actually, I'd like to ask you a few questions.



*Question: Do you know about the accident at the intersection?*
: Just making sure you don't have extremely short-term memory.
: Of course I remember. A refrigerator fell off a truck, right?

*Question: Do you remember seeing a truck in the alley?*
: I saw that truck before the accident happened.
: I wish I'd been able to warn the driver...



*Question: Do you remember what time that was?*
: It happened just as I'd gone out to buy more soy sauce...
: I'd say about 8:40.
: 8:40, eh? (Got my time!)
: Thank you very much.

Thus informed, we clear up our flashbacks, especially the relevant one.

Flashback: Traffic Accident (Dog) posted:


Ethan: (This accident only happened because I changed the past...)



Flashback: Teetering Fridge posted:


Ethan: (Now that all the info's in place, I should be able to handle the rest.)



So let's solve our problem. To the alley we go!

In the intersection on the way there, we find someone surprising.




*Conversation: Morris*
: Morris...?
: Oh, hey, Ethan.
: What are you doing here?
: I heard about it at Chronos and, well...
: You mean...about the accident?
: Uh-huh... That poor dog...
: ...... Did everyone go home already?
: Yeah, pretty much right after you left.
: Oh...
: I'd better head home, too. See you around.
: Yeah, see you.

And he leaves. Back to the alley we go.

{Soundtrack: Silence}



: (And the Pen is glowing too. I should be able to do something!)



: (I'm going to save Jacob's dog!)



: (...That's what it said in that letter--the one that came with the watch. The holder must have the Time... So that's MY Time. Will I lose my Time by using the Hollow Pen...?)



: (...But Jacob's dog would still be alive if it weren't for me...)



===







*Examine*
: (So this truck's carrying a refrigerator, eh?)



Ethan: (Someone out there is moving--someone besides me!)
Ethan: Wh-who's there!?

Cyouni fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Mar 17, 2017

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011




Oh good needless resource management to power your time machine! It really is like Shadow of Destiny!

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!


Having a game over from a game mechanic in a visual novel is a little silly, I'll admit, even if it is hard to trigger. I'd understand more if it was a choice that led to branching pathways.

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Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

I say keep the glasses.

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