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kdrudy posted:Yea, you could just mandate transporter usage before every away mission to back people up. Oil monster kill your security chief? Just print a new one. It was called out in the technical manual that they very much didn't want to deal with those kinds of things so they wrote it in a way that it couldn't be done. Then they did it anyway for Thomas Riker, sorta kinda. And the DS9 thing was weird because the computer stored like, their minds and sent the rest of the pattern to the holosuite. So even then the computer could only hold a small part of each of them. (we just won't talk about how the holosuite doesn't materialize things normally)
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I really liked the Enterprise episode where the creator of the transporter accidentally banished his son to a hell of half-existence lol
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:How much merch is Trek even selling these days? Like I know there's some, but it's definitely nowhere near the 90s heydey. 
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HD DAD posted:I really liked the Enterprise episode where the creator of the transporter accidentally banished his son to a hell of half-existence lol Big shout out to whoever decided on the title of that episode. Masterful trolling on their part.
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Watching voyager episode where neelix is killed before the credits ran. Hoping it's permanent but I know it's not Edit: 0.7777 just showed up to ruin the day
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:How much merch is Trek even selling these days? Like I know there's some, but it's definitely nowhere near the 90s heydey.
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FlamingLiberal posted:They have to actually put out some to sell it I keep getting ads for the mobile games they have on Android and I think the MMO is still going. There's probably other games for other platforms I don't know about. Would be interesting to know how much they get in licenses / kickbacks from all those games.
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FlamingLiberal posted:They have to actually put out some to sell it There's plenty of knockoff Discovery poo poo on aliexpress these days
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So was Tuvix double density? What happened to the extra bits of Neelix and Tuvok that didn't make it into Tuvix? Should there not also have been a Neelok? Was it  away?
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CainFortea posted:It was called out in the technical manual that they very much didn't want to deal with those kinds of things so they wrote it in a way that it couldn't be done. For the DS9 one if I recall the episode right they weren't materialised, the patterns for their bodies were stored in the holosuite active memory and it overwrote parts of a running program. The problem wasn't that their "real" bodies were running around at risk of being "killed", the problem was they couldn't risk the holosuite entering a state where it cleared down the cache. Meanwhile four or five people's mind scans took up an entire space station's memory so storing them every time you transport wouldn't be practical. You want real dumb transporter stuff implications look at the tng episode where they casually revert polaski to an earlier template, memories and all. Splicer fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Apr 12, 2021 |
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Apr 12, 2021 09:21
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Really they should all be functionally immortal.
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Apr 12, 2021 09:27
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Honestly at this point "transport you but you come out taller, in better shape, and aged back to 25" seems like it could be something people are offering somewhere.
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Splicer posted:Honestly at this point "transport you but you come out taller, in better shape, and aged back to 25" seems like it could be something people are offering somewhere. The twist is that the "improved-you transport beam" textually and verifiably kills the original, rather than it being a mere semantic or philosophical possibility. The crew is suitably horrified, &c.
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Vim Fuego posted:The twist is that the "improved-you transport beam" textually and verifiably kills the original, rather than it being a mere semantic or philosophical possibility. The crew is suitably horrified, &c. Command staff guy: <long thing about ethics etc> Villain: No I mean from an engineering standpoint, where are the actual mechanical differences between this machine and your transporter? Engineering staff guy: <nervously sidles out of the room>
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Rascals is an incredibly dark story when you think about it.
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Vim Fuego posted:The twist is that the "improved-you transport beam" textually and verifiably kills the original, rather than it being a mere semantic or philosophical possibility. The crew is suitably horrified, &c. Can they just beam my butt then
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MikeJF posted:Can they just beam my butt then Yea but you might end up with your rear end on backwards
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Vim Fuego posted:The twist is that the "improved-you transport beam" textually and verifiably kills the original, rather than it being a mere semantic or philosophical possibility. The crew is suitably horrified, &c. This is what I would have liked Altered Carbon/Broken Angels/Woken Furies to have explored. The people in that world just aren't bothered by the stacks just being copies, like at all. Though Soma (the game) did a bang up job tbh. Like were the people controlled by the mind copy in the stack and the brain still contains the original mind, they have no control, but are totally aware. That would have been a nice twist, but I guess the author didn't want to go there.
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Splicer posted:Honestly at this point "transport you but you come out taller, in better shape, and aged back to 25" seems like it could be something people are offering somewhere. uh chief, id like more length. no, its girth is fine.
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Collateral posted:This is what I would have liked Altered Carbon/Broken Angels/Woken Furies to have explored. The people in that world just aren't bothered by the stacks just being copies, like at all. Though Soma (the game) did a bang up job tbh. Well yeah, it's completely antithetical to the whole concept of Stacks for one thing. Altered Carbon's deal is subjective immortality, and Kovacs does actually touch on it in the books a few times. He tries very deliberately not to think about it because he knows it's not gonna go anywhere good for him after two-hundred-odd subjective years across who-knows-how-many Sleeves.
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Splicer posted:Honestly at this point "transport you but you come out taller, in better shape, and aged back to 25" seems like it could be something people are offering somewhere. It's on the same black market as the use of the Turnabout Intruder body-swap machine.
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Just watched the DS9 finale. That was quite the ride.
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Hellblazer187 posted:Just watched the DS9 finale. That was quite the ride. Did you know that Sisko comes back in the books to divorce Cassidy Yates also all the changelings all die of sadness
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Rectal Death Deft posted:Did you know that Sisko comes back in the books to divorce Cassidy Yates Also, Kira becomes Grand Nagus.
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Jake goes on to write Pakled erotica. Worf sulks.
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Rectal Death Deft posted:Did you know that Sisko comes back in the books to divorce Cassidy Yates lmao. Are the relaunch novels worth reading? Are any of the novel series worth reading? Hellblazer187 fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Apr 13, 2021 |
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O'Brian goes on a mission to hunt every copy of himself and end their suffering. When he finally succeeds he smiles in relief for the first time as he puts a phaser in his mouth. Before he can pull the trigger he hears a screeching voice yell "Miles!". His relief never comes.
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Hellblazer187 posted:lmao. also most of what they ended up doing with Sisko was not very good It's not going to matter soon, because it appears there is going to be one final trilogy coming out this fall that is going to end the last two decades of continuity because of the conflicts with the novelverse and the continuity created by Star Trek Picard.
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Stanley Tucheetos posted:O'Brian goes on a mission to hunt every copy of himself and end their suffering. When he finally succeeds he smiles in relief for the first time as he puts a phaser in his mouth. Before he can pull the trigger he hears a screeching voice yell "Miles!". His relief never comes. I don't get it. Who has a screeching voice? Definitely not Bashir.
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Rascals is an incredibly dark story when you think about it. Rascals already has a weird tonal dissonance where some really awful poo poo is happening - like, the dialogue for the pirate attack makes it sound like the Enterprise is about to be blown the gently caress up, heavy casualties - but the music and directing is so blasé it's like "oh, huh, this is kind of a problem, i guess?" And then most of the crew is beamed down to a planet to be enslaved, but the kids and Riker are having a bouncy adventure outsmarting the pirates. I know people like to bag on the first two seasons but I honestly think it would have worked better as a second season episode. Rascals really suffered from the stuffiness of late TNG. Farmer Crack-Ass fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Apr 13, 2021 |
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PJOmega posted:I don't get it. Who has a screeching voice? Definitely not Bashir. Keiko O'Brien.
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Rascals was a Ron Moore script so mark up another reason he's on my poo poo list. It boggles me that he thought having a couple of busted old birds of prey knocking down the Enterprise was a better approach than, say, having the Ferengi fake a distress signal to lure them in and then sucker-punch them. Also hilarious that supposedly mean ol' Rick Berman had to really wring his hands over "space pirates" in Gambit because ~~*~the Great Bird of the Galaxy~*~~ decreed "thou shalt not write space pirates in My Star Trek" meanwhile not so much as a peep a year earlier when a bunch of space pirates literally board the Enterprise and enslave its crew.
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PJOmega posted:I don't get it. Who has a screeching voice? Definitely not Bashir. Neddy Seagoon posted:Keiko O'Brien. can we loving not
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Rascals was a Ron Moore script so mark up another reason he's on my poo poo list. It boggles me that he thought having a couple of busted old birds of prey knocking down the Enterprise was a better approach than, say, having the Ferengi fake a distress signal to lure them in and then sucker-punch them. Also hilarious that supposedly mean ol' Rick Berman had to really wring his hands over "space pirates" in Gambit because ~~*~the Great Bird of the Galaxy~*~~ decreed "thou shalt not write space pirates in My Star Trek" meanwhile not so much as a peep a year earlier when a bunch of space pirates literally board the Enterprise and enslave its crew. Hah, that episode was given to Moore and he was not happy with the premise at all. He says he did his best but has acknowledged that the Ferengi/Birds of Prey was a pretty lovely handwave in an episode full of handwaves.
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they weren't pirates, they were privateers
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Apr 13, 2021 04:56
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That's like the opposite of a pirate, basically.
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I mean Rascals was never going to be a good episode. I don’t think anyone could have saved it.
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infernal machines posted:That's like the opposite of a pirate, basically. it's a huge difference but not one a lubber would understand
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I enjoyed Rascals, just for child Guinan taunting child Ro. Also, I like that child Guinan's actress already played a child version of Whoopi Goldberg in Sister Act (which I enjoyed more than Rascals).
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