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Jun 5, 2020 00:48
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:like, goddamn, do any of the Discovery or Picard characters have hobbies? have they ever been shown to play games (chess, space racquetball, fizzbin) with each other? They're all hooked on that stupid VR game with the funnels, they just never show it onscreen
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Jun 5, 2020 00:48
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Rise up from hate Don't tempt fate Learn to love Then kiss the dove Now we begin healing End all the killing God bless
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Jun 5, 2020 00:53
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Edgy Trek would have been transgressive in the early 00s. But now everything is edgy. Don't do retrotrek again either, though. Do something new. Surprise me.
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Jun 5, 2020 00:53
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Have a glass of water Think of your father Eat a good snack Take a long nap Now you are ready to drink some more
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Jun 5, 2020 00:57
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oh but seriously I posted:Edgy Trek would have been transgressive in the early 00s. But now everything is edgy. Don't do retrotrek again either, though. Do something new. Surprise me. gay trek. For real this time !
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Jun 5, 2020 01:00
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Pick posted:gay trek. For real this time ! DO IT YOU COWARDS
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Jun 5, 2020 01:01
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Gay Dax solves crimes in the future. Millions of dollars sitting right there and all you have to do is pick them up.
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Jun 5, 2020 01:07
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i'm still glad that they don't seem interested in anything from ds9 except section 31. i don't think i could handle a very special episode about a trip to bajor with the lesson of how colonialism is actually good. that one episode of picard made it very clear that's what the current writers actually believe.
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Jun 5, 2020 01:12
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Do they know what colonialism is?
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Jun 5, 2020 01:14
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Tighclops posted:Do they know what colonialism is? That’s when you found a colony on an uninhabited planet, right?
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Jun 5, 2020 01:51
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Its the Maquis *tiptoes out Grinchenly*
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Jun 5, 2020 01:58
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lol remember when internet snobs would be all "heh, now that we are in the ~*golden age of television*~, no longer shackled by the tyrannical constraints of old customs like making over 20 episodes a season or having to start shows in the fall, writers will have the time needed to artisanally craft the most elegant serial plot arcs ever seen Man, I learned that lesson with LOST. Have not gotten to ANY show with " oooh mystery" hooks because, more than likely, they are still just pulling poo poo out of their rear end goddamnit, I am still made about LOST
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Jun 5, 2020 02:28
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the old school writers were often no better than the schmucks we have now, but the difference is that they were writing star trek. In documentaries the TNG writers complain about the no conflict utopianism so much and all the tricks they had to pull to sneak in conflict under the rules, trying to make the rules sound quixotic and pointless. But it always seems as though the creativity and attention to characterization came out via response to those constraints, especially since whatever original idea they mention lamenting being rejected sounds like dogshit cliche TV.
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Jun 5, 2020 02:29
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Breakfast All Day posted:In documentaries the TNG writers complain about the no conflict utopianism so much and all the tricks they had to pull to sneak in conflict under the rules, trying to make the rules sound quixotic and pointless. But it always seems as though the creativity and attention to characterization came out via response to those constraints, especially since whatever original idea they mention lamenting being rejected sounds like dogshit cliche TV. I hate the idea of censorship, but god drat if some of the best stuff from the 90s didn't come out due to creativity squeezed out from the pressure of censorship.
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Jun 5, 2020 02:38
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Johnny Aztec posted:I hate the idea of censorship, but god drat if some of the best stuff from the 90s didn't come out due to creativity squeezed out from the pressure of censorship. Breaking Bad and GoT made it so easy for shows to just go for the R rated shock value for plot hooks, I really hope this trend fizzles out soon.
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Jun 5, 2020 03:25
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I don’t know which dropped plot thread from tng is more infuriating, the gross bugs from Conspiracy or the progenitor aliens from The Chase. Probably gonna go with the latter
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Jun 5, 2020 04:45
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Gonna be honest I didn't much care for the progenitor thing.
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Jun 5, 2020 04:50
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Yeah I don't really give a poo poo why there's so many bipedals running around the galaxy because it's a space opera and we're already not gunning for realism here.
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Jun 5, 2020 04:53
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Johnny Aztec posted:Have not gotten to ANY show with " oooh mystery" hooks because, more than likely, they are still just pulling poo poo out of their rear end This kind of cynicism really grinds my gears. There's tons of good mystery in 'prestige' tv! Take, for example, the spiral shape that the white walkers used in Game of Thrones that was built up over seasons and then Um. Oh.
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Jun 5, 2020 05:02
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The first season of Westworld was a perfect example of prestige mystery box tv done correctly.
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Jun 5, 2020 05:08
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Why not just have Raffi smoke weed. Why did it have to be space weed?
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Jun 5, 2020 05:47
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Cause they go to space obv 
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Jun 5, 2020 05:52
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Kirk and McCoy at the space disco in their disco suits doing line after line of Andorian mind-snow
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Jun 5, 2020 05:58
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Why not just have Raffi smoke weed. Why did it have to be space weed?
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Jun 5, 2020 06:48
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Why not just have Raffi smoke weed. Why did it have to be space weed? Because then the coalition of concerned christian moms would protest and boycot because the star traks is teaching kids to become criminal drug addicts.
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Jun 5, 2020 08:14
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that picard poo poo sucked and he should be dead like the showrunner's talent. Raffi be dead too because i hate her
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Jun 5, 2020 08:22
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thanks again youtube recommends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJUt8k9zQ0o
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Jun 5, 2020 08:30
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infernal machines posted:They're all hooked on that stupid VR game with the funnels, they just never show it onscreen I always wanted to see footage from that episode with Pokemon Go edited in as the game when that craze was around Facebook Aunt posted:Because then the coalition of concerned christian moms would protest and boycot because the star traks is teaching kids to become criminal drug addicts. They could have made her a holodeck addict since that was actually established in star trek. She's in the middle of the desert because she wanted to separate from society completely. Her home is a simple box because that's all it needs to be to function. She role plays as if she never lost her job because she can't cope with the failure of losing status in a society where prestige is the only currency. A simple adjustment like that would maintained what they wanted to do with her character while also fitting in with the canon. Lister fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Jun 5, 2020 |
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Jun 5, 2020 09:44
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Re-watching Transformers Prime and I never noticed Kurtzman was involved on it. I can't help but think the rest of the team made the show loving excellent in spite of him.
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Jun 5, 2020 12:11
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the old school writers were often no better than the schmucks we have now, but the difference is that they were writing star trek. Picard is a better Star Wars installment then all real Star Wars installments since Return of the Jedi. However, just like the newer SW films, Picard is just a collection of nostalgia crammed onto screen with no storyline. It's like my TV grew arms, jumped off the wall and started shaking me by the collar screaming "HOLY gently caress DO YOU REMEMBER SEVEN OF NINE AND DEM TITTAYS FROM WHEN YOU WERE 15?!?!?!"
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Jun 5, 2020 12:32
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Lister posted:They could have made her a holodeck addict since that was actually established in star trek. She's in the middle of the desert because she wanted to separate from society completely. Her home is a simple box because that's all it needs to be to function. She role plays as if she never lost her job because she can't cope with the failure of losing status in a society where prestige is the only currency. See goddamnit this is what I'm talking about! This is great but some knucke-dragging UCLA grad decided "hurr durr brown people smoke weed so space weed!" is the appropriate way to go. Can we abolish cops AND Hollywood this year?
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Jun 5, 2020 12:37
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:that picard poo poo sucked and he should be dead like the showrunner's talent. Raffi be dead too because i hate her She didn’t even sing Banana Phone
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Jun 5, 2020 14:38
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Lister posted:I always wanted to see footage from that episode with Pokemon Go edited in as the game when that craze was around Holy poo poo that would have been incredible. Like, her intro scene could have been her in command of a starship during a tense situation. To the audience it appears like a real situation until there’s a knocking sound and the screen door swings open onto the bridge.
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Jun 5, 2020 15:12
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Applewhite posted:Holy poo poo that would have been incredible. Like, her intro scene could have been her in command of a starship during a tense situation. To the audience it appears like a real situation until there’s a knocking sound and the screen door swings open onto the bridge. yeah that was a pretty sick moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6tWmSckE40
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Jun 5, 2020 15:45
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Applewhite posted:Holy poo poo that would have been incredible. Like, her intro scene could have been her in command of a starship during a tense situation. To the audience it appears like a real situation until there’s a knocking sound and the screen door swings open onto the bridge. Exactly, I'm just writing fan fiction here, but when I imagined it, Raffi would be introduced with Picard visiting her in her ready room on the ship she's in command of. Raffi is in good spirits and talks about how Picard is lucky he caught her just as she's docking at Earth because she's got another mission to go out to soon. Picard stifles frustration and explains he needs a ship from her. She's called to the bridge and it's because a klingons/cardassians/ferangi battlefleet is making a surprise attack on Earth. Raffi calls for red alert and starts spouting cliches like "Evasive sequence delta! Fire photon torpedoes!" When the ship is hit, she and the bridge crew jostle with the camera shake while Picard stands still. He gets to his limit and says "Computer freeze program" then Raffi's attitude completely shifts and they start having the same argument as they did in the show. They walk outside and you see her home is entirely a holodeck.
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Jun 5, 2020 18:45
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The thing is they have 1,000 producers and all of them are cowards who will never make anything good
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Jun 5, 2020 19:20
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Lister posted:Exactly, I'm just writing fan fiction here, but when I imagined it, Raffi would be introduced with Picard visiting her in her ready room on the ship she's in command of. Raffi is in good spirits and talks about how Picard is lucky he caught her just as she's docking at Earth because she's got another mission to go out to soon. Picard stifles frustration and explains he needs a ship from her. She's called to the bridge and it's because a klingons/cardassians/ferangi battlefleet is making a surprise attack on Earth. Raffi calls for red alert and starts spouting cliches like "Evasive sequence delta! Fire photon torpedoes!" When the ship is hit, she and the bridge crew jostle with the camera shake while Picard stands still. He gets to his limit and says "Computer freeze program" then Raffi's attitude completely shifts and they start having the same argument as they did in the show. They walk outside and you see her home is entirely a holodeck. This ALONE would have raised my opinion of the show by like, several universal respect units.
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Jun 5, 2020 19:27
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oh but seriously I posted:The thing is they have 1,000 producers and all of them are cowards who will never make anything good it's extremely telling that any random person posting in these threads can spend 30 seconds of thought time and come up with more compelling poo poo than the highly paid professional writers and producers
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Jun 5, 2020 19:41
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Tighclops posted:it's extremely telling that any random person posting in these threads can spend 30 seconds of thought time and come up with more compelling poo poo than the highly paid professional writers and producers But can that same basement nerd, when dropped into the TV production machine, stand their ground against the army of studio executives who won't stop loving with things because "According to focus groups it won't sell in the midwest market" or a bunch of corporations just paid 20 million ad bucks to the studio so now you have to graft in a scene with your characters riding around in a Dodge Ram explicitly commenting on how great it is and how easy it was to pair their tricorder Apple iTunes app with it.
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