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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Hollismason posted:

What's up with the weird beds in DS9. Bashir has a kind of normal one but Sisko's has triangle pillows.

Anything three-sided on DS9 is leftover Cardassian poo poo.

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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




FuturePastNow posted:

Do you think Borg drones still have to poop?

They have a dereplicator in their colon.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Hollismason posted:

Worf is such a hypocrite.

In general

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Didn't they confirm that ages ago?

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Okay now I see why they have to confirm its not the living witness one again and again and again

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Endless Trash posted:

Well it should’ve been! Confirming they’re dipshits again and again and again!

"Hey it's your beloved character returning but missing the back half of his story for a gimmick reference"

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




It's amazing this is meant to be the same time period as

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YEKVwww02s

And all the stuff in there was just century-old leftovers.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I like the part where they have to do a baryon sweep to remove any baryons on the ship. Which would include the ship and everything on it.

Failed Imagineer posted:

As a biologist I would say mostly no, lol

Wanna do a watchthrough of all of the episodes about genetics?

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Dec 10, 2025

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




The Wonder Weapon posted:

Wait academy is supposed to take place in 3300 or something?

It's a year after Discovery ended (epilogue aside) so 3192?

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




DavidCameronsPig posted:

One thing Star Wars has done right is that they purposely tried to limit what they did in CGI to what would have theoretically feasible with model work (or, at least, feasible to do with model work if you had infinite time and budget), and I think it looks far better for it.

Lower Decks did that too with their animated stuff, although they tended to push a little further as the show went on and they developed their own identity, but there was initially a mandate to do their animated space shots and camera motion as it would've been designed by a live-action model house in 1995. Although in their case that's more obviously because they're trying to so strongly tie to that era and interact with it.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Big Mac posted:

Maybe they finally decided that ejecting the warp core was actually a goated tactic and wanted to make it easier

If only we could just make some kind of torpedo that's got antimatter in it like the warp core does and then just launch that at the enemy instead.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




CainFortea posted:

It is implied that holograms work by function in the very nature of the holographic emitter technology.

Like when the EMH contacts the bridge he's on a video screen because the cameras are picking up his holographic projection. He's not creating a virtual image and then broadcasting it

That's because modern human-like holograms are all based on the Bynar humanoid hologram software framework which is tightly designed around interacting with the world through the projection itself as a proxy for the sensorum and can't easily be adapted into a general-purpose AI which can directly interface with digital systems :techno:

(But also you're right that it's implied that the projection itself seems to have something to do with the way they operate, the we heard a lot about the doctor's 'optronic' elements being part of the simulation process and also his physical self?)

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Dec 13, 2025

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Regarde Aduck posted:

no they're not you just made that poo poo up

I made 50% of it up.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Mulaney Power Move posted:

I can only think of one time Sisko intentionally does the self destruct and that's when the Jem Hadar take over the Defiant. I guess he can't really blow up the Bajoran station with his son on it.

Those Jem Hadars end up POWs by the way. How does that even work? Do you just put each in solitary while they run out of white so they don't kill the person next to them before they die of withdrawals? Maybe they get frozen. Maybe this will be explained in on the academy show. There's a planet of frozen Jem Hadars, stacked like cordwood.

They mention in Rocks and Shoals that the Jem'Hadar POWs are placed in stasis. I assume Jemmy POWs are pretty rare though.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003





I'm reminded of how Lower Decks explicitly didn't clear that up, or similar things when revisiting old shows, out of respect to the original showrunners, as they didn't feel it their place to just change up the chosen ending of the show for a quick bit of nostalgia when they wouldn't be actually continuing a story properly.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




In the shortest possible terms, the Prime Directive is that you must respect a civilisation's right to self-determination.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Ghostlight posted:

They announced Oceania would get it a few years ago and then just didn't bother.

It definitely exists in Australia but I think like three people in the country subscribe and two of them were accidental.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Acoustic Radiation posted:

do any of the federation ships have a pool? can the holodeck make a pool?

People swim on the holodeck but usually they just simulate an impossibly perfect ocean instead of a boring pool.

Pretty sure the galaxy had a pool, though, they had pretty comprehensive gym stuff. And yeah people can go swimming in CetOps, we saw pool parties there on the Cerritos.

The old Franz Joseph blueprints for the TOS Connie had a small lap pool for exercise.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




CainFortea posted:

Also that klingon's face is so poorly photoshopped on

It looks like someone took a bit of time and effort to use MSPaint

MikeJF posted:

It might just be poorly put on.

(Or maybe just whatever material they're using as skin on the prosthetics reflects badly and doesn't look real when under a promo photo lighting rig.)

From a bit back, but looking at another picture... I really think it is just disconcertingly badly put on.



Maybe it's an attempt to do klingon makeup that doesn't take four hours.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Neddy Seagoon posted:

I love how the Cadet uniforms are slowly migrating back to horizontal colour patterns because they learned the hard way in Disco why the vertical stripe was a bad idea that shouldn't have gotten past a camera test and had to invert it. (The colour stripe disappeared very easily at certain angles. Whoops!)

Except , it looks like they still hosed up, as if you look in the background the jacket is all-grey on the back so you have hosed the visibility of your character's profile for any characters facing away from the camera in a crowded shot.

They should never have gone away from main-body-of-the-uniform-is-color, really. Even switching to "the shoulders are color and the body is black" for DS9 and Voyager, while it may have looked a bit less goofy, also means that everything below the screen's head height is just a whole lot of boring black bodies (and black makes them all pretty indistinct, too)

I still maintain this is the best-designed star trek uniform layout of that whole TNG and later family from that 'looks good and is also well-functional for storytelling and shooting' point of view.



Just needs a little tailoring refinement on the look of the seam and the way the badge sits.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Dec 18, 2025

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




TheDeadlyShoe posted:

difficult to replicate that much water, so the ocean just feels like a sea of hands holding you up

The replicator probably doesn't actually replicate things like water, it just beams it from the ship's tankage verbatim.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Wii Spawn Camper posted:

Is there a canon reason why being beamed doesn’t cause excruciating pain? Do they beam out your nerves first?

:techno: Your whole body is quantum entangled together as a single system during the beam so that even as your particles are shooting across space they're still acting and reacting against each other as if they're all in once piece, with the famous 'spooky action at a distance' of quantum entanglement (wherein entangled particles still affect each other as if they're right next to each other when separated) so your body can basically continue operating as a normal single system even as its particles are ripped apart and moved, and your nerves don't notice anything wrong, and that's why you stay alive and you're even conscious mid-transport. :techno:

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




On a basic level all your atoms are only probably where they are anyway so :shrug:

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Lowen SoDium posted:

So the holodeck can create a space that is effectively much larger than the actual holodeck by using conveyors and perspective tricks. Multiple people can be inside a simulated space that feels like they are completely distant from each other even though they are only a few feet apart

How many sqft per person does a holodeck need?

It's pretty clear that the technology rapidly evolves over the course of the TNG era. Probably at the start it wasn't all that good at simulating multiple spaces for more than a few people.

By Lower Decks they've got holopods that are basically just too big to touch the walls, which presumably just suspend you in a fake-inertia treadmill effect forever.



so a larger deck by then can probably do as many people as they could fit this much room around people

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Dec 19, 2025

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Admiralty Flag posted:

I haven't seen this ep of LDS but I assume there's a non-trivial chance that I'm not making a joke but reiterating the joke in the show, probably about Boimler.

There is actually a gag in the episode where one of the holopod crew evaluation scenarios is way too sexual (the scenario based on the Naked Time/Naked Now) and Mariner just immediately throws herself out an airlock and scores 0%. So yeah, kinda the opposite.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Dec 19, 2025

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I love billups, being probably asexual, just sitting naked in back reading a PADD and ignoring everything going on.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Another Bill posted:

Does anyone here play Star Trek Online? I dl it last night and am thinking of going badly where no man has gone before

there's a thread here. It's some fun nostalgia where you play space Barbie with your spaceships, but it can be confusing as hell because of like 15 years of built up crud so the thread might help get started.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Eeyo posted:

You might be right, but I always read his character as chastity being something forced on him by external pressures and not necessarily him being asexual to begin with.

But I haven’t watched the last season yet so there could be more.

I saw the opposite; I read the character as being happy with the enforced chastity situation because he doesn't have any interest in sex anyway.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Wii Spawn Camper posted:

Edit 6 this episode has Harry Mudd dose the crew with a love potion but he very clearly explains it can’t make you gay, it only works on hetero pairings. But Spock and Kirk get awfully touchy-feely later, and earlier, and in later episode, and in earlier episodes, and throughout TOS.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Sweaty IT Nerd posted:

Star Trek TAS is a trip if you are a Niven reader.

And then 50 years later there's an episode of Lower Decks where a Kzinti ensign is part of the away mission to a ringworld. :allears:

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




One of the potential reasons for Garak's exile that's given is that towards the end of the occupation he allowed a number of Bajoran children to go free who were due to be needlessly executed. That detail's there in a few different versions of the story and if it's close to the truth it might explain why the Bajoran government let him stick around.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




They got mentioned in one of the SNW short treks, they were simulating a Tholian attack. Just a verbal mention.

davidspackage posted:

Tholian: don't move your ship okay, this is gonna take a while

In ENT, at least, they show that Tholians can produce webs very quickly when they come from links in between multiple tholian ships, although those need to be actively maintained.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Dec 28, 2025

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Eeyo posted:

Edit: other than ensign Ro in her first episode and some other starfleet ensigns. The “no jewelry” uniform thing never made any goddamn sense. You’re telling me a multiplanetary, cosmopolitan federation pseudo-military couldn’t handle loving religious earrings for some of its staff? Just absolute nonsense.

There's lots of examples of people wearing cultural stuff with their uniforms, the general interpretation is that Ro never bothered to apply and get a formal exemption because she's not that kind of person and would just wear it or get verbal approval, so Riker was a dick to her about it.

Probably as more Bajorans joined Starfleet a standing exemption for Bajoran earrings would've been put into the uniform code.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I'm sure the Kazon went extinct a long time ago.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Plus Prodigy is Voyager season 8 and 9 but now with improved character development and serialisation.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I'll show you a strange new world.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




in my pants

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Hollismason posted:

I know there's going to be a lot of crying in Star Trek Star Fleet Academy. Happy Crying, Sad Crying, Angry Crying. 90% of the shows character moments will be crying.

The Klingon will cry.

The Jem H Dar will cry.

They'll probably cry together.

At least this time they're like 19 so crying a lot over minor things is actually pretty accurate.

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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Sweaty IT Nerd posted:

Huh. They are Buddies because they are descendants of the titular Bud from Air Bud.
  • Air Bud (1997)
  • Air Bud: Golden Receiver (1998)
  • Air Bud: World Pup (2000)
  • Air Bud: Seventh Inning Fetch (2002)
  • Air Bud: Spikes Back (2003)
  • Air Buddies (2006)
  • Snow Buddies (2008)
  • Space Buddies (2009)
  • Santa Buddies (2009)
  • The Search for Santa Paws (2010)
  • Spooky Buddies (2011)
  • Santa Paws 2: The Santa Pups (2012)
  • Treasure Buddies (2012)
  • Super Buddies (2013)
  • Air Bud Returns (2026)

I believe Air Buddies is when the dogs gain the ability to speak

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