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Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011


xtal posted:

It sounds like you are living in a different world from everybody else's experience. I actually addressed this early on because it's a core part of ELO hell. Lower ranks have more punishing variance due to casuals.
You're the only person I see getting banned every season.

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Pattonesque
Jul 14, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

basically any individual game may be decided by factors outside of your control but overall if you can't climb that's on you bro

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

daef


like I don't even know how someone could believe in smurfing and elo hell at the same time lol

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9nkzaOPP6g

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


xtal posted:

On the other hand, if you tell them all to go to quick play, you don't need to use up your limited avoid slots on people who shouldn't be playing ranked. It might even spare future people the trouble.

Here's my hot take: Going into ranked and playing like poo poo, is far more offensive to your teammates, than your teammates telling you you're poo poo. Queueing ranked is an agreement not to be poo poo. It's fair to be angry at people to betray that agreement and waste your time and SR.

Blizzard either needs to make avoid permanent or remove the restrictions on how many people you can avoid at once, current form of the system is completely useless

Also in my own personal experience(and what's led me to give up on Overwatch entirely till 2 comes out so I can switch over to only playing the PvE content ever again) with bad teams it's less that I'm magically better than my teammates at the parts of the game involving shooting and killing enemies(I'm probably on the lower side of average at best), it's more often that it seems like I'm the only person on my team who is 1) actively trying to play the objective instead of focusing solely on kills, and/or 2) the only person on the team who has any understanding of team composition

Which is probably why towards the end I was mostly playing Mystery Heroes even though I hate the way it's currently balanced, as it generally just felt like the least frustrating PvP mode to play cause at least there I could throw the blame more at the RNG and the enormous balance issues that mode has than getting mad at my teammates for playing like morons(I mean they usually were anyways, but I could at least pretend that it was from other reasons instead)

denimgorilla
Jan 24, 2008

Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

I was excited for new overwatch news! Turns out itís just people feeding the troll.
New skins are cool and good though! Really like that Zarya one. I usually come back to OW for events and then fizzle back out but itís fun for a while!

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007



drrockso20 posted:

Also in my own personal experience(and what's led me to give up on Overwatch entirely till 2 comes out so I can switch over to only playing the PvE content ever again) with bad teams it's less that I'm magically better than my teammates at the parts of the game involving shooting and killing enemies(I'm probably on the lower side of average at best), it's more often that it seems like I'm the only person on my team who is 1) actively trying to play the objective instead of focusing solely on kills, and/or 2) the only person on the team who has any understanding of team composition

People not playing the objective is a real problem at lower ranks (just watched a pretty funny gold game where the players won two team fights but forgot to cap the point, eventually losing because they missed out on probably 50% of objective progress), but unless you're Master or above I wouldn't worry too much about team comp. Just let people play what they're good at, even if it's a bit wonky or off-meta. The bigger problem I've encountered isn't people playing bad comps, it's someone completely and totally losing their poo poo because another player picked the "wrong" hero and inevitably throwing because they decide to spend half the match tilting over it in chat.

People tilting and throwing over dumb poo poo like hero choices is actually the biggest thing that keeps me away from comp these days and dipping into MH instead. If I could queue up and just listen to/make some shot calls and have a fun match it would be one thing, but sooner or later (unfortunately, it's probably sooner) you're going to get someone on your team who's pitching a fit because people aren't playing up to their exacting, obviously GM-level standards and now you're in a 5v6 situation. The negativity and toxicity kind of sours the whole experience for me. At least in a dumb mode like MH everyone on both teams laughs at tilters for being babies.

headcase
Sep 28, 2001



denimgorilla posted:

I was excited for new overwatch news! Turns out itís just people feeding the troll.

Seriously. That can't be a real person's understanding of the world they live in.

Elo hell is being able to see some of your teammates' weaknesses, but staying oblivious to your own. That is all. Overwatch's matchmaking is very good at moving you toward a 50% win rate, which some people's brains just can't handle.

Mr. Locke
Jul 28, 2010


Maybe the real ELO hell is the friends who's Overwatch experience xtal ruined along the way.

I mean, these days I mostly play Arcade Classic 6v6 with a couple friends and one of their kids because I don't care enough about OW's ranked system with 7+ minute queue times despite being low Plat at best (and far, far worse then that these days, more then likely.) But, y'know, I do agree that ELO Hell exists as long as xtal is there to create and enhabit this prison of their own making.

Malcolm Turnbeug
Mar 21, 2018


FAUXTON posted:

*dying as reinhardt trying to flank the other team* is this elo hell?

Feeling real called out by this!

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


Wicked Them Beats posted:

People not playing the objective is a real problem at lower ranks (just watched a pretty funny gold game where the players won two team fights but forgot to cap the point, eventually losing because they missed out on probably 50% of objective progress), but unless you're Master or above I wouldn't worry too much about team comp. Just let people play what they're good at, even if it's a bit wonky or off-meta. The bigger problem I've encountered isn't people playing bad comps, it's someone completely and totally losing their poo poo because another player picked the "wrong" hero and inevitably throwing because they decide to spend half the match tilting over it in chat.

People tilting and throwing over dumb poo poo like hero choices is actually the biggest thing that keeps me away from comp these days and dipping into MH instead. If I could queue up and just listen to/make some shot calls and have a fun match it would be one thing, but sooner or later (unfortunately, it's probably sooner) you're going to get someone on your team who's pitching a fit because people aren't playing up to their exacting, obviously GM-level standards and now you're in a 5v6 situation. The negativity and toxicity kind of sours the whole experience for me. At least in a dumb mode like MH everyone on both teams laughs at tilters for being babies.

I'm not even talking about super exacting team composition, just common sense ones like not using Widowmaker against a team running multiple Shield heroes or running Pharah against a team with lots of hitscan heroes, or of course the classic one where you really shouldn't normally have more than one Sniper on your team

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Anyway instead of 9 wins a week to finish the weekly challenges for this event, you need 30 of the stars awarded at the end of PVE events, with Uprising providing double stars. So if you just want to get the challenge unlocks, five normal Uprisings a week will do it.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?


Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

Feeling real called out by this!

If you die its feeding.

If you kill everyone its flanking.

Malcolm Turnbeug
Mar 21, 2018


I also saw that Jayne video of the Gold team where they steamrolled the other team and never capped and then got wiped and tbh as a silver player it was deeply disturbing

Guigui
Jan 19, 2010
Winner of January '10 Lux Aeterna "Best 2010 Poster" Award

Add some community dances, like the conga in tf2 - then change ult generation so that it only goes up while you dance - moreso the more people you are dancing with.

...Should make the game interesting!

xtal
Jan 9, 2011



Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I also saw that Jayne video of the Gold team where they steamrolled the other team and never capped and then got wiped and tbh as a silver player it was deeply disturbing

This happens all the time. Gold is all tank diff.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011



Ravenfood posted:

You're the only person I see getting banned every season.

Lol if only you knew more about the thing you were complaining about.

headcase
Sep 28, 2001



Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I also saw that Jayne video of the Gold team where they steamrolled the other team and never capped and then got wiped and tbh as a silver player it was deeply disturbing

Link?

Malcolm Turnbeug
Mar 21, 2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H24zSWP-Uyo

I'd timestamp it but its the first map on the first match they play

cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
VISIT THE STICKIED GOON HOLIDAY CHARITY DRIVE THREAD IN GBS.

Goons are changing the way children get an education in Haiti.

Edit - Oops, no they aren't. They donated to doobie instead.

xtal posted:

Lol if only you knew more about the thing you were complaining about.

If everyone you would blame were to quit playing you would be bronze because that is the lowest rank. Hope that helps.

headcase
Sep 28, 2001



Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H24zSWP-Uyo

I'd timestamp it but its the first map on the first match they play

Oh man that was funny.

Xarbala
Feb 13, 2011






Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H24zSWP-Uyo

I'd timestamp it but its the first map on the first match they play

lmfao

pointlessone
Aug 6, 2001

The Triad Frog is pleased with this custom title purchase.

Overwatch: Electric Light Orchestra Appreciation Station.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.



Gravitas Shortfall posted:

I get warnings about chat bans because I am relentlessly negative about my own performance and that of my team when we lose, and I am incapable of changing.

Whoops, actually got banned for three weeks. No Bioshock Zen for me.


EDIT: tbf I deserved it, serves me right for being terminally sadbrain on text chat. might disable it when I come back.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!


Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Whoops, actually got banned for three weeks. No Bioshock Zen for me.


EDIT: tbf I deserved it, serves me right for being terminally sadbrain on text chat. might disable it when I come back.

You sure you're not just stuck in Elo Hell?

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.



Macaluso posted:

You sure you're not just stuck in Elo Hell?

I don't play comp

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

daef


Gravitas Shortfall posted:

I don't play comp

I'm sure they think it follows them to qp and arcade

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?


Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Whoops, actually got banned for three weeks. No Bioshock Zen for me.


EDIT: tbf I deserved it, serves me right for being terminally sadbrain on text chat. might disable it when I come back.

Instead of typing it, just turn on push to talk and say it without pressing the button.

I'd call my teammates loving morons constantly without pressing the button, but then after I'd actually push the button and try to organize a push

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

Old school? New school?
Shit, I didn't go to school



xtal posted:

Lol if only you knew more about the thing you were complaining about.

yes.. if only you did

Malcolm Turnbeug
Mar 21, 2018


and people have the nerve to say that there's no teamwork in Ranked Silver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA1Vu__QzsY

Xarbala
Feb 13, 2011






Elo Hell Multipass

Robot Arms
Sep 19, 2008

R!

Is there a reason Lucio is a magnet for Rein pins? I love playing Lucio, but I feel like I get pinned more often (and often randomly) as Lucio than any other hero.

Billy Jo Robidoux
Nov 15, 2000


Lucio works best at the center of his team? The internal calculus of even the most basic aggressive rein charging at the center will figure out the timing on when they see you?

I was pined as Lucio earlier this week :-(

Time Crisis Actor
Apr 28, 2002


I sexually identify as a fat tinder girl,

Yeah lemme just clean my pannus first.

These candles smell amazing btw


If you're getting pinned as Lucio it means that you are somewhat near the ground, which is absolutely haram.

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Robot Arms
Sep 19, 2008

R!

Time Crisis Actor posted:

If you're getting pinned as Lucio it means that you are somewhat near the ground, which is absolutely haram.

You're not wrong, but it feels like if I get anywhere near the ground, there's Rein charging in blindly from Narnia to pin me. I guess I need to go back to the fundamentals: get to the skybox, go fast, get carried.

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