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xyigx
Nov 6, 2012


totalnewbie posted:

I think just the way McCree is designed, people who have exceptional aim (aka pros) will always make him a bit OP compared with his performance in normal play. If you balance him for competitive in mind then he becomes too weak in the hands of normal players. If you balance him for normal play then he becomes a bit too good in competitive.

Why would these pros with exceptional aim need a low cool down button that makes people stop moving? The fan roll fan combo poo poo out insane amounts of damage. Seriously all they need to do to mcree is just make the full stun area smaller to reward aim and give us a way to counter it like say looking away from the flash bang. Right now it's either a free kill button or a get out of jail free button. all of this makes mcree a low risk high reward character. There should be some counterplay to it not just flashbang = dead nontank. I mean sure flash my face you got me, but if the drat thing bounces off my back the stun should be minimal at worst.

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Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!



Cross-posting from the last thread: is ranked mode not in for release? I was under the impression it was set considering it was a disabled option in previous betas.

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008


Brave. Loyal. Great hugs.




can't wait to play games with my dad, soldier: 76, and my best robot buddy, bastion, and his best bird buddy, ganymede

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house


Gauranga#21958

Best Zenyatta Plays EU

Also the vast majority of McCree players will be doing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceG3nrGsRSI#t=34s

Don't be one of them. Use your primary fire.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

ive decided, Mei first character to play when I load in, then McCree/Mercy/Genji

LordVonEarlDuke
Jun 24, 2011



Video games are good. I will play zarya for my first game

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

In Rodd we Bust





Ddraig & Brannock in the Last Thread posted:

Words of Wisdom:


* McCree's flashbang has a 10 second cooldown.
* Fan the Hammer is a terrible way to kill people. Don't rely on it.
* There are numerous ways for Hanzo to know where your team is:

1. Sonic Arrow
2. Hit markers on his team mates.
3. The objective moving/being contests (like that would ever happen)

When he fires his stupidly loud, incredibly telegraphed ultimate it's going to be at your team. If you die to it, you're bad, he doesn't need to be nerfed.

* Neither does Bastion.
* Winston counters Genji, Tracer and Widowmaker. All have a hard time getting away from him, are squishy, and none of their defences work against him.
* Switch loving characters if you're getting wrecked.
* If you hear French, the enemy can see you.
* Don't Gaze into the Iris, you can't do poo poo against it, regroup and wait for it to end before pushing.
* The Payload doesn't stop moving unless you stand next to it.
* The Payload doesn't move unless you stand next to it.
* Points don't get captured unless you stand in them
* Stand on the loving objective.


I work until 9 PM tonight, but luckily because overwatch doesn't have an archaic leveling system and as a result i won't be over run by my 5 hour lag into the game!

I'll have to settle for everyone having doper tags than me...

slydingdoor
Oct 26, 2010

Are you in or are you out?

biznatchio posted:

It's almost here, guys!!!!!

Chin Strap
Nov 24, 2002

I failed my TFLC Toxx, but I no longer need a double chin strap

Pillbug

So what is the worst hero, so I can master it and be butthurt about their weakness and that Blizzard is ignoring us?

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house


LordVonEarlDuke posted:

Video games are good. I will play zarya for my first game

Zarya is a good choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyagvwmuko0

She is the Hedgehog Dilemma in human form.

Chin Strap posted:

So what is the worst hero, so I can master it and be butthurt about their weakness and that Blizzard is ignoring us?

D.Va

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 27, 2006


TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK

LordVonEarlDuke
Jun 24, 2011



Ddraig posted:

Zarya is a good choice.

I think she will be even better in the early days when people will shoot the hell out of her shield bubble

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot


Let us compile a list of heroes that are robots / mechs / power armor / or cyborgs that I can play.

1. D.Va
2. Pharrah
3. Geji
4. Zenyatta
5. Reinhardt
6. Bastion

E:
7. McCree
8. Soldier 76
9. Lucio
10. Torbjorn
11. Junkrat

Microwaves Mom fucked around with this message at 15:38 on May 23, 2016

Kaysette
Jan 4, 2009






Microwaves Mom posted:

Let us compile a list of heroes that are robots / mechs / power armor / or cyborgs that I can play.

1. D.Va
2. Pharrah
3. Geji
4. Zenyatta
5. Reinhardt
6. Bastion

McCree

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

LordVonEarlDuke posted:

I think she will be even better in the early days when people will shoot the hell out of her shield bubble

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 27, 2006



By this logic, Junkrat.

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot



Hmmm yes... McCree as well excellent.

What else do we have? There must be more.

Mr. Bad Guy posted:

By this logic, Junkrat.

Junkrat has a pegleg McCree has a robot arm.

Elerion
May 31, 2011


Microwaves Mom posted:

Let us compile a list of heroes that are robots / mechs / power armor / or cyborgs that I can play.

1. D.Va
2. Pharrah
3. Geji
4. Zenyatta
5. Reinhardt
6. Bastion

McCree and possibly Soldier 76 and Reaper are part robocop. Though Reaper seems more likely to be kept alive by BLACK METAL MAGIC than cybernetic implants.

e: Oh yeah Junkrat

Elerion fucked around with this message at 15:34 on May 23, 2016

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house


Lucio literally runs around in a powered speaker system so maybe him.

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot


Not gonna go with junkrat he has a peg leg its not cybernetic in any way.

Ddraig posted:

Lucio literally runs around in a powered speaker system so maybe him.

This I can see.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta



Ddraig posted:

Zarya is a good choice.

She's like the least played tank but she's so good.

Kaysette
Jan 4, 2009






Microwaves Mom posted:

Not gonna go with junkrat he has a peg leg its not cybernetic in any way.

idk man, pretty sure his leg and arm are robotic

but that's your call

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.



Microwaves Mom posted:

Let us compile a list of heroes that are robots / mechs / power armor / or cyborgs that I can play.

1. D.Va
2. Pharrah
3. Geji
4. Zenyatta
5. Reinhardt
6. Bastion

E:
7. McCree
8. Soldier 76

Junk rat
Symmetra

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008


Brave. Loyal. Great hugs.




Mei technically has a little robot buddy

Torbjorn has a robot arm

Lucio has robot legs

Hanzo has lights on his shoes

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 27, 2006


Microwaves Mom posted:

Junkrat has a pegleg McCree has a robot arm.

Bruh.

Mr. Bad Guy fucked around with this message at 15:38 on May 23, 2016

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx


Fallen Rib

Chin Strap posted:

So what is the worst hero, so I can master it and be butthurt about their weakness and that Blizzard is ignoring us?

http://www.planetoverwatch.org/11-overwatch-hero-meta-report-the-grand-beta-review

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

I feel like zarya is pretty excellent on king of the hill

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house


I imagine Lucio can't actually walk properly without his suit because he's actually pulverized his bones into fine dust with his speaker legs.

Elerion
May 31, 2011


Kerrrrrrr posted:

Hanzo has lights on his shoes
Tracer has a light on her chest.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house


I think Zarya is the only person who doesn't have some form of cybernetic enhancement because she's a super Robo-bigot and hates all robots.

I guess her suit may count since it's doubtful she'd be able to lift her weapon properly without it.

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot


Okay I looked at Junkrat he does have a robot arm.

So Torb Junkrat

but how is symmetra robotic in any way? She wears like a visor and has an autism gun.

Elerion
May 31, 2011


Ddraig posted:

I think Zarya is the only person who doesn't have some form of cybernetic enhancement because she's a super Robo-bigot and hates all robots.

I guess her suit may count since it's doubtful she'd be able to lift her weapon properly without it.

Roadhog is all meat.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!


Ddraig posted:

I think Zarya is the only person who doesn't have some form of cybernetic enhancement because she's a super Robo-bigot and hates all robots.

I guess her suit may count since it's doubtful she'd be able to lift her weapon properly without it.
Uh, have you seen those guns

resistentialism
Aug 13, 2007



Microwaves Mom posted:

Okay I looked at Junkrat he does have a robot arm.

So Torb Junkrat

but how is symmetra robotic in any way? She wears like a visor and has an autism gun.

nanovaccines

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009



Brainamp posted:

She's like the least played tank but she's so good.

I wonder how it would affect the play stats if you switched Zarya's character model with DVA or something

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot


Help Im Alive posted:

I wonder how it would affect the play stats if you switched Zarya's character model with DVA or something

She'd get played more. I guarantee it.

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009





Microwaves Mom posted:

Okay I looked at Junkrat he does have a robot arm.

So Torb Junkrat

but how is symmetra robotic in any way? She wears like a visor and has an autism gun.

She has a robo-arm doesn't she?

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house


theshim posted:

Uh, have you seen those guns

She's the world's strongest woman, but the gun is heavy even to her. Her Deadlift pose is her struggling to lift it. I doubt even she'd be able to keep it operational without some form of assistance, probably from her suit which is definitely linked to the gun.

e: Likewise, the only person who has anything approaching the kind of hardware Zarya carries around is Winston, and he's a literal gorilla so that's nothing to him.

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 27, 2006


Microwaves Mom posted:

but how is symmetra robotic in any way? She wears like a visor and has an autism gun.

Dude what is it with you and your robot arm blindness?

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Ulvirich
Jun 26, 2007




That caused cyberautism.

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