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OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
Whenever i think of chicago i think of that secret torture prison the police ran and how the head guy was this grizzled korean war vet who was an expert at electrocuting peoples balls and anuses with one of those hand cranked generators and an electric dildo and i thank god im not young abd black in chicago

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Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Mange Mite posted:

Whenever i think of chicago i think of that secret torture prison the police ran and how the head guy was this grizzled korean war vet who was an expert at electrocuting peoples balls and anuses with one of those hand cranked generators and an electric dildo and i thank god im not young abd black in chicago

Whatever happened to that totally not a place, place?

SOME PIG
Aug 12, 2004

Hittin' Switches,
Twistin' wigs with
Phat Radical Mathematical type Scriptures

Mange Mite posted:

Whenever i think of chicago i think of that secret torture prison the police ran and how the head guy was this grizzled korean war vet who was an expert at electrocuting peoples balls and anuses with one of those hand cranked generators and an electric dildo and i thank god im not young abd black in chicago

It may be time for me to move up north

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Darth123123 posted:

Whatever happened to that totally not a place, place?

i think this is the last i heard about it:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/13/homan-square-chicago-police-records-secret-interrogation-facility-new-documents-lawsuit

and from before:
Earlier this month, the city of Chicago paid out $5.5 million to victims tortured by former Police Commander Jon Burge. Between 1972 and 1991, Burge and his men forced confessions out of more than 200 people by torturing them with suffocation, beatings, and genital electrocution. After costing the city over $100 million in legal fees and settlements, Burge continues to receive a $4,000 monthly pension from the city.

bonus:
Former Chicago homicide detective and Guantanamo Bay interrogator, Richard Zuley, faced multiple lawsuits alleging he coerced confessions, threatened suspects’ family members, planted evidence, and committed torture. After retiring from the department, Zuley was placed in charge of the interrogation of Guantanamo detainee, Mohammedou Ould Slahi. According to Slahi’s testimony, Zuley tortured him, subjected him to mock executions, and threatened to bring Slahi’s mother to Guantanamo to rape her.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

The Sicilian posted:

tldr on Chicago:

Breaking up the big gangs has led to splintered "blocks," or small scale street gangs that spring up on a specific street (e.g. 87th st. Satan's Disciples). the problem is, when the larger gangs were around the leadership was all about the money and reduced violence. If you hurt or killed an innocent you'd be dealt with internally.

Now the blocks are splintered and have social media beefs. A 92nd st. Satan's Disciple member could very well have beef with one on the aforementioned 87th st. The net result is exploding violence in the south ad west sides.
Joan Rivers said once that organized crime is better than disorganized crime. She was right.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
According to police documents, at least 11 people observed by investigators for the Recording Industry Association of America selling bootleg CDs and DVDs (including Jay Z albums and Marvel’s Iron Man movie) were “taken to Homan Square for processing”. A woman was “transported to Homan Square for processing” after police observing a fencing location for stolen goods found her with “2 cans of Tasters Choice decaffeinated coffee with Walgreens anti-theft stickers”.

“Very frequently”, someone arrested at Homan Square will not be subsequently charged with a crime, said Kilroy, the senior narcotics officer, adding: “They convert into a cooperating individual.”


loll

Roylicious
Feb 21, 2012

Braver than the cops
ain't afraid of no chaps
If they steppin up on me
I just start bustin some caps

Mange Mite posted:

Whenever i think of chicago i think of that secret torture prison the police ran and how the head guy was this grizzled korean war vet who was an expert at electrocuting peoples balls and anuses with one of those hand cranked generators and an electric dildo and i thank god im not young abd black in chicago

Same.

It kind of blends with Detroit in my mind a bit too as I imagine a rusted urban hellscape.

Mange Mite posted:

“They convert into a cooperating individual.”

Gotta get your confidential informants somehow I guess.

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot
I will convert you all into my friends.

*pulls out a cat-o-nine-tails. after shackling you to some chains hanging from the ceiling*

china bot
Sep 7, 2014

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Plaster Town Cop
i moved to chicago from the detroit area, and detroit is better

i was white in both cities, AMA

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
Im just laughing at the idea of a guy getting tortured at the behest of the mpaa for pirating iron man

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


Bro Dad posted:

other places are worse than karachi/johannesburg/juarez/chicago, stop freaking out about terrorists/robberies/kidnappings/murders you sissies :smug:

Johannesburg and Juarez are way worse off than Chicago.

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

Mange Mite posted:

Im just laughing at the idea of a guy getting tortured at the behest of the mpaa for pirating iron man

respect copyrights

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


Bro Dad posted:

oh cool, the same exact same excuse everyone who lives in a third-world shithole gives

I'm not saying it's fine, i'm saying that overall it's not as bad as a lot of people claim. But it still gets way more attention for crime that other US cities that have much worse crime rates.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Rah! posted:

I'm not saying it's fine, i'm saying that overall it's not as bad as a lot of people claim. But it still gets way more attention for crime that other US cities that have much worse crime rates.

Bro Dad posted:

oh cool, the same exact same excuse everyone who lives in a third-world shithole gives

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Mange Mite posted:

i think this is the last i heard about it:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/13/homan-square-chicago-police-records-secret-interrogation-facility-new-documents-lawsuit

and from before:
Earlier this month, the city of Chicago paid out $5.5 million to victims tortured by former Police Commander Jon Burge. Between 1972 and 1991, Burge and his men forced confessions out of more than 200 people by torturing them with suffocation, beatings, and genital electrocution. After costing the city over $100 million in legal fees and settlements, Burge continues to receive a $4,000 monthly pension from the city.

bonus:
Former Chicago homicide detective and Guantanamo Bay interrogator, Richard Zuley, faced multiple lawsuits alleging he coerced confessions, threatened suspects’ family members, planted evidence, and committed torture. After retiring from the department, Zuley was placed in charge of the interrogation of Guantanamo detainee, Mohammedou Ould Slahi. According to Slahi’s testimony, Zuley tortured him, subjected him to mock executions, and threatened to bring Slahi’s mother to Guantanamo to rape her.

The USA: Literally wartime Syria

E: wait no that's too harsh to syria which is working to brutally control its population whereas the US just had too much bureaucratic inertia to tell Chief Psycho to cut back on his hobbies

Strategic Tea fucked around with this message at 23:17 on May 24, 2016

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

I remember reading an article about a Chicago woman found dead tied up to a chair and showing signs of torture but it wasn't classified as a "murder" because police weren't sure what happened.

All these aggregate stats measuring variables with millions of people involved have issues...especially ones that are intertwined with R vs. D politics. There's also the gigantic problem that statistics are measured in different ways in different cities (and across years/decades). It's even worse and more divergent when looking at stats from other parts of the world.

And that's not even getting into the dumb human errors people make with numbers (excel spreadsheet errors etc.)

The Sicilian
Sep 3, 2006

by Smythe
http://kollegekidd.com/news/little-chicago-boy-says-f-the-police-during-arrest-i-shoot-at-yall-for-a-living/



Kollege Kid posted:

Footage shows the little boy screaming at his arresting officers.

“F**k CPD,” he said. “I shoot at y’all for a living.”

Welp.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot
I live on the Southside of Chicago

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot
I have yet to see a dead body, also I never saw a tornado while in the suburbs so I am all around disappointed

SOME PIG
Aug 12, 2004

Hittin' Switches,
Twistin' wigs with
Phat Radical Mathematical type Scriptures

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I live on the Southside of Chicago

How's the boy?

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx
Chicago is a member of that elite cadre of great American cities that rigidly segregates its murderers from its non-murderers

priveleged whites can handwring all they want but there is precisely zero chance they'll ever actually find themselves in englewood by design or by accident

Illavick
Sep 15, 2012

WHENA MINA RENA VATIVE

Well on the bright side, now that he's in police custody he will finally get the help he needs.

TEAH SYAG
Oct 2, 2009

by Lowtax

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I live on the Southside of Chicago

Ah, the deep Shitcongo

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot
The violence is all based around control of drugs and the most violent places are located on shipping routes for the drug trade

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot
ANd then you think, if you legalize drugs, what do these angry, disaffected youth with no hope and no prospects with loads of firearms do now that they have no way to make money and no reason to infight

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

ANd then you think, if you legalize drugs, what do these angry, disaffected youth with no hope and no prospects with loads of firearms do now that they have no way to make money and no reason to infight

march on the suburbs?

naem
May 29, 2011

Internaut! posted:

Chicago is a member of that elite cadre of great American cities that rigidly segregates its murderers from its non-murderers

priveleged whites can handwring all they want but there is precisely zero chance they'll ever actually find themselves in englewood by design or by accident

I made a wrong turn and took an exit in the NYC area to turn around on the expressway and a cop literally ran me off the road with his car and yelled "NO, get back on the expressway, you DONT use THIS exit, don't drive on this street, get OUT of here MOVE" and forced me back onto the on ramp

Like, a cop sits in a bad neighborhood 24/7 making sure nice people don't get off at that exit, ever

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

naem posted:

I made a wrong turn and took an exit in the NYC area to turn around on the expressway and a cop literally ran me off the road with his car and yelled "NO, get back on the expressway, you DONT use THIS exit, don't drive on this street, get OUT of here MOVE" and forced me back onto the on ramp

Like, a cop sits in a bad neighborhood 24/7 making sure nice people don't get off at that exit, ever

Wtf, are you messing with me?

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

ANd then you think, if you legalize drugs, what do these angry, disaffected youth with no hope and no prospects with loads of firearms do now that they have no way to make money and no reason to infight

Get jobs at the weed factory?

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

naem posted:

I made a wrong turn and took an exit in the NYC area to turn around on the expressway and a cop literally ran me off the road with his car and yelled "NO, get back on the expressway, you DONT use THIS exit, don't drive on this street, get OUT of here MOVE" and forced me back onto the on ramp

Like, a cop sits in a bad neighborhood 24/7 making sure nice people don't get off at that exit, ever

ya The Man is always watching out for His own

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Wamdoodle posted:

Wtf, are you messing with me?

He isnt. This happened to me when I was in Chicago on business.

Cartouche
Jan 4, 2011

Anyone have the link to Bugs Bunny sawing off Illinois?

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Cartouche posted:

Anyone have the link to Bugs Bunny sawing off Illinois?

Id eather have one where he blows up rahm emmanuel with dynamite

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Snatch Duster posted:

He isnt. This happened to me when I was in Chicago on business.

Yah because the only reason white people get off there is to buy drugs so he was doing a vehicular stop and frisk

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
Dude was just driving against the grain and the cop was being cool and nice

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

naem posted:

I made a wrong turn and took an exit in the NYC area to turn around on the expressway and a cop literally ran me off the road with his car and yelled "NO, get back on the expressway, you DONT use THIS exit, don't drive on this street, get OUT of here MOVE" and forced me back onto the on ramp

Like, a cop sits in a bad neighborhood 24/7 making sure nice people don't get off at that exit, ever

I've heard of this happening in Camden New Jersey too. The cops will escort white people back to the freeway since they either genuinely got lost in a bad neighborhood or are only there to buy drugs.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

naem posted:

I made a wrong turn and took an exit in the NYC area to turn around on the expressway and a cop literally ran me off the road with his car and yelled "NO, get back on the expressway, you DONT use THIS exit, don't drive on this street, get OUT of here MOVE" and forced me back onto the on ramp

Like, a cop sits in a bad neighborhood 24/7 making sure nice people don't get off at that exit, ever

what the gently caress exit did you take

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
He went against the grain and the traffic cop was being nice and turning him around nothing to do with race

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Beloved 'Walking Man' badly beaten on Lower Wacker Drive with baseball bat
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-walking-man-attacked-20160525-story.html

This could start WWIII...

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Sep 7, 2014

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Zogo posted:

Beloved 'Walking Man' badly beaten on Lower Wacker Drive with baseball bat
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-walking-man-attacked-20160525-story.html

This could start WWIII...

I've gotten punched in the back for passing someone wrong the crosswalk, so yup

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