|
I'll play
|
#
¿
May 25, 2016 00:19
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ Apr 26, 2024 17:21 |
|
|
I am a real person, thank you very much
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2016 03:09
|
|
|
suicide4sexbots posted:So that was quick and i got some free bread, but its not rye its five grain but it does make one think about how far hes come in this game so far Nobody tells me what to do!
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2016 03:20
|
|
|
Hal Incandenza posted:This seems backwards No, if it were backwards it'd be this: Truth Quark posted:.tniop siht ta nwot demrifnoc hcum ytterp s'eh os sis-lana esahp ekoj ssensuoicnoc fo maerts suoires otni pmuj yletaidemmi t'ndid esondiuQ
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2016 03:31
|
|
|
A flock of homeless people probably improves your property values.
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2016 03:56
|
|
|
CapitalistPig posted:in so I can annoy Jedit ##vote CapitalistPig
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2016 04:38
|
|
|
suicide4sexbots posted:This might be a good fight, but I'd like to hear Hal's opinion first. Why put faith in anyone at this point?
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2016 16:10
|
|
|
Jedit posted:I'm in the UK. You were all talking poo poo at 2am my time and I've been at work since this morning. American time is the best time.
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2016 17:22
|
|
|
Some thoughts: S4SB: Seems scummy to me. The two posts below are I think the most egregious: suicide4sexbots posted:I'm gonna give everyone a pass who has voted so far, because after the fiasco of last night, and what I had to suffer at the hands of Target Loss Prevention, I think everything prior to this morning should be taken with big, fat, slug-melting grains of salt. That's not to say I'm salty... I'm not. Except with AR who I feel (personally) has not done enough drinking today. suicide4sexbots posted:ok but there better be drank The first post looks like classic D1 scum trying to lynch a lurker, because there's no controversy in lynching someone who hasn't posted. The second one looks like bandwagoning. Either way, seems fishy. But if this is really their first game, I'm not so sure if the bandwagoning is egregious. Poidma: Podima posted:I'm really confused about what you're referencing here, since he never did that - can you provide a quote? This post is terrible. Metagaming is terrible and you shouldn't do it and definitely shouldn't be using it publicly as a reason to accuse someone of being scummy. Everyone else: Meh. All in all, I'm gonna go with my gut. ##unvote ##vote suicide4sexbots
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2016 21:39
|
|
|
suicide4sexbots posted:Does someone have to be a vote leader for it to count as a bandwagon to vote them? idk The other vote for you was on page 2. It's not bandwagoning if only one person is making the case.
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2016 22:02
|
|
|
CapitalistPig posted:All hail flerp What is this?
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2016 05:41
|
|
|
I don't get the case against EXAKT.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2016 17:18
|
|
|
I would like to know too, as I still don't see why we should lynch EXAKT.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2016 21:29
|
|
|
Quidnose posted:Why Li Dawny Is Scum, A Case Study This is a good post. I'd be okay with voting for lil Dawny. Truth Quark posted:When I first saw the case against Exakt I just kinda accepted it at face value, so I'm typing my thought process out here in the hopes it will help me and others understand the case. The case against EXAKT just seems really weak to me. It's just as likely EXAKT is a PR as scum, in that case. If it came down to the wire I'd want to hear a claim before lynching.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2016 22:46
|
|
|
Truth Quark posted:I'd love to kill all the poo poo posters but I'd rather kill someone whose flip is actually tied to opinions that have been offered and argued about this game. Agreed. Truth Quark posted:Also I've read Exakt's post history like three times does anyone else know what the gently caress this supposed claim is Power Role and also masons with me are the two I saw.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2016 23:13
|
|
|
Li Dawny posted:See, this proves that you're not reading my posts. If you read it, or the second post that I did saying the same thing, you'd understand that the reason I didn't want ERNIE starting the lynch train on me is because I feel like HE is town and I didn't want three town down at the end of day two. Quid I have some deep suspicions about so I don't mind being lynched at his insistence because it would lead to a scum lynch tomorrow. That makes absolutely no sense. If you think Quidnose is scum, why not make a case against them?
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2016 23:18
|
|
|
Ernie. posted:
I get paranoid about thoughts that DON'T appear to be well-reasoned. Why would you do that? Either you're dumb, or you're scum.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2016 23:27
|
|
|
Absurd Revolver posted:jedit i have a feeling you're the kind of person who takes mafia "seriously" Is that a bad thing?
|
|
#
¿
May 27, 2016 00:56
|
|
|
suicide4sexbots posted:None of the votes are REAL It's day one, what do you expect? Plenty of players have been offering substance, and plenty more have offered hot garbage in terms of post content/quality. I think we should decide, at the very least, whether we want to lynch someone for low effort or not, as there are several people who haven't really been contributing. Personally I'm ambivalent on that.
|
|
#
¿
May 27, 2016 01:19
|
|
|
I don't want to lynch without hearing a claim.
|
|
#
¿
May 27, 2016 02:12
|
|
|
EXAKT Science posted:yeah kill the cop day 1 good job Case in point.
|
|
#
¿
May 27, 2016 02:19
|
|
|
##unvote ##vote Li Dawny
|
|
#
¿
May 27, 2016 02:23
|
|
|
Absurd Revolver posted:Scum knows were not going to lynch Li and are trying to force a no lynch. I don't even know what to make of it
|
|
#
¿
May 27, 2016 02:32
|
|
|
votefinder posted:Votecount for Day 1 ##unvote ##vote AR Anything is better than a nolynch
|
|
#
¿
May 27, 2016 02:34
|
|
|
Sometime in the next few hours I'm going to go back and reread the end of D1.
|
|
#
¿
May 27, 2016 23:26
|
|
|
Podima posted:You never actually did this and instead vanished. Sorry, I was dealing with some stuff that came up in the middle of writing the post. Here's what I had before all that came up; with what happened yesterday, I'm not sure if I'm going to continue with it. ______________________________________ I’m going to write out my thoughts on every living player as I drink whiskey sours. CapitalistPig None of their posts are longer than two lines. I called them out randomly during the day, and their reaction: CapitalistPig posted:I was playing overwatch was an excuse for not playing (videogames are not a good excuse) and a vote for Jedit, probably as a joke. They keeps making joke posts (I’m not going to copy them all here), although a handful of them are (true to their word) just one-line responses to what appear to be real Jedit posts. Their only real accusation on day one was calling out TQ for a post he thought was scummy. CapitalistPig posted:I believe in you flerp. Here they vote for TQ, but only AFTER flerp does. This is a pretty bad vote in my opinion, and it seems suspect. CapitalistPig posted:I believe in li dawny and think quidnose is being dumb and bad. Some more opinions, without any sort of justification given. Verdict: Scummy EXAKT Science They claimed cop, and there’s no counter-claim. I’m not gonna bother with this one. Verdict: Town flerp Confirmed Serial Killer. flerp posted:wtf why are you forcing exakt to full claim thats super scum yo I think this is a good post, but I’m not sure if it justifies the case on EXAKT Science that flerp pushed for so hard. flerp posted:yeah tq is a much better lynch than exakt u right This vote for Truth Quark came after a massive effortpost by Podima. I’m not sure how I feel about it. There’s nothing else of note in their post history, though. Verdict: Mistrial Hal Incandenza Has not posted anything of substance. But they were on the AR train a day before anyone else, really. Verdict: Lurker Jedit Jedit posted:I'd rather vote for one of the people who put you to -2 in the space of minutes last night. I'd wager someone was trying to turbo you in joke phase then laugh it off with a "Whoops, guess we got carried away!" when you flip Town. This post is off-putting. I can’t quite decide why. I don’t really buy the “scum try to turbo in joke phase” argument, and I can’t really understand why Jedit would want to use that as a reason to focus on one of them. Artificially narrowing down the pool of People To Be Lynched is pretty scummy. Jedit posted:Explain? Podima's the one who jumped off S4S and stopped a potential turbo. Of all the people on that bum rush EXAKT and AR are much better candidates for pushing it to -2, maybe Hal and Murmur if you think they were brazen enough to simulvote and pass it off as a shared joke. Podima's the last person in that group that I'd vote for right now, joke phase vote shotgun or not. These all seem like reasons to vote… four or five people? Bolsters my point above. If it’s bad behavior, they can’t ALL be scum- so among them there are certainly townies engaging in the same behavior. At that point is it still scummy? I think not. Jedit posted:I concur on the other two points, but I'm not about to vote someone for calling you Carmen Sandiego. I like this read on S4SB’s self-vote. Jedit posted:Oh gently caress off. If you don't want to play, don't loving play. I'm tired of you pissing and moaning about not getting a role you like in every loving game, making yourself useless or worse. Get hosed.  ______________________________________ Now, to address this: Podima posted:- Rye: Made a HARD DEFENSE of Exakt on Day 1, starting from here (read their post history): http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3777358&userid=165457#post460333305 I re-read my own post history, and I don't feel like I was defending EXAKT. I really just didn't understand the point of pushing to lynch him so hard, especially with the possibility we'd lose a power role day one. I'm going to re-read the last 4 pages of posts that have happened since I wrote the above.
|
|
#
¿
May 28, 2016 16:58
|
|
|
Also note that all of the above conclusions were drawn before Podima claimed cop. I'm sure a lot of what I wrote is misguided now, but I think it's probably better to have it out there than to throw it away.
|
|
#
¿
May 28, 2016 16:59
|
|
|
Podima posted:I never like this type of post, it's a great way to LOOK like you're contributing while not actually saying much. For example I note that you glazed over Hal as a lurker, who is my other high-up scum pick besides you. Also 'oh I cased part of the game and got tired/bored/whatever' is a classic scum excuse. Podima posted:Really? How about these - saying it once or twice I could believe, but three separate times you talk down the cases on EXAKT. (And a fourth one I didn't quote where you question flerp's vote on EXAKT) Podima posted:
You're right, the timestamps look suspicious. It was near the deadline, and I was paying a lot of attention to the thread.
|
|
#
¿
May 28, 2016 17:16
|
|
|
flerp posted:wtf why are you forcing exakt to full claim thats super scum yo This post from flerp, in hindsight, was 100% accurate.
|
|
#
¿
May 28, 2016 17:17
|
|
|
The Case Against suicide4sexbotssuicide4sexbots posted:Id say thats probably a good call. Id even suspect myselfnafter that, infact i do. ##vote suicide4sexbots This was a strange self-vote, coming from someone who is supposedly playing their first game. But it’s during the joke-vote phase. suicide4sexbots posted:What I'm saying is I've got no idea what I'm doing and I'm stalling/flailing pitifully? This seems dishonest to me. Why else would you admit that? suicide4sexbots posted:Hey guys im shopping at Target for bread because im #cheapasfuck (not a day action) and i was rhinking about AR's feelings as i passed the five grain. This sticks out like a red flag. There are no day actions in this game. This is (according to votefinder) S4SB’s first game at SA. S4SB, have you been reading a lot of mafia game threads before this or something? suicide4sexbots posted:shut up dawg. didn't i play a game with you already or something? Again, votefinder says this is S4SB’s first game. suicide4sexbots posted:I'm gonna give everyone a pass who has voted so far, because after the fiasco of last night, and what I had to suffer at the hands of Target Loss Prevention, I think everything prior to this morning should be taken with big, fat, slug-melting grains of salt. That's not to say I'm salty... I'm not. Except with AR who I feel (personally) has not done enough drinking today. Underline mine. S4SB has claimed, in this thread, to have played mafia before with Podima. According to votefinder, they haven’t played at SA before. They didn’t know how to look through individuals’ post histories, which (in my experience) is really one of the first things you have to learn to do playing mafia here. It just doesn’t add up. Also, the case he makes in this post is the easy day one lurker lynch case, which takes no brains, no effort, and no actual desire to lynch scum. suicide4sexbots posted:ok but there better be drank Here again it’s S4SB’s first game. I think this is a pretty weak case on Podima, and it’s a bandwagon on Truth Quark’s vote a few posts before it (which is itself a poorly argued case). Very suspicious. suicide4sexbots posted:I think I gave a reasonable rationale for voting Podima. As reasonable as can be made this early, I guess. Nothing to say except this is patently false, the case was terrible and it was a bandwagon. Jedit makes the following post: Jedit posted:The case on Podima seems to mainly revolve around her voting with a shotgun during joke phase. It's pretty flimsy, to say the least. Then later on the same page: flerp posted:wtf why are you forcing exakt to full claim thats super scum yo Followed shortly by this post: Podima posted:For reference, notes on S4S during the early rush: Finally, we get this post: suicide4sexbots posted:Who has just graced us with an appearance, and a legit rebuttal. I still suspect them, but okay. I get the case for exakt now. Thanks, daddy. I presume this is talking about Podima’s post above. I wouldn’t think the vote itself to be scummy or not, with people making cases and flying around. But S4SB just… votes. They say they agree with “the case” (which aspects of it? why?), and that’s it. This is a bad post. suicide4sexbots posted:Ouch on the car bill Here they are playing the newbie card again. Newbie is an excuse for bad; I don’t think it’s an excuse for not giving any sort of justification for a vote, and this doesn’t really clear that up. suicide4sexbots posted:great tryhards. If you’ll allow for their post before this being at the same time as Podima’s last post, this is S4SB’s next post after Podima unvotes. It seems as if they’re not actually doing any independent thought, but just bandwagoning onto whatever Podima does. I don’t really get how Lil Dawny telling his “crew” to “go eat hot gently caress” would make him less suspicious, either. suicide4sexbots posted:None of the votes are REAL This is a bad post. Almost entirely joking, except for that very telling last line. Earlier they were saying that they understood the case against EXAKT. Why don’t they think it’s worth anything anymore? suicide4sexbots posted:hmm bones. This looks really bad in light of all of the above. suicide4sexbots posted:Wow so many posts... can't really take a night off with this game lol This is also a bad post. No justification, and no comment on anything that’s happened. suicide4sexbots posted:nfyd omg dad fine We see the first signs of independent thought, and most of these are argued pretty poorly (if at all). suicide4sexbots posted:Waiting for a response from EXAKT before I make a decision between those two I don’t get why S4SB is so hesitant to put an opinion down, unless they don’t want to be held to it later. All in all, there are a number of pretty glaring inconsistencies in the way S4SB has been playing. Between all the aberrant non-newbie mannerisms (where’d they pick up the day action thing?), the bandwagoning with Podima yesterday multiple times with little in the way of justification, and the constant content-free posts, I am fairly confident S4SB is scum.
|
|
#
¿
May 28, 2016 18:17
|
|
|
Also, just to have it on the record: I accept that it's possible Podima is scum and EXAKT is the real cop. But I've seen no indication from EXAKT's posting (or lack thereof) over the course of the game that they are planning on actively contributing to the town day conversation. That's scummy behavior. Conversely, Podima has been an active part of the conversation the entire game. That's townie behavior, and while I think his reads on the scum are wrong bad reads aren't inherently scummy. I'd be willing to lynch EXAKT over Podima, if we lynch cops today. I'm not voting right now, as I'll be around at deadline.
|
|
#
¿
May 28, 2016 18:20
|
|
|
suicide4sexbots posted:
This is exactly the thing I'm talking about- if you're scum, just saying "I agree" is an easy way to deflect responsibility when something bad for the town happens. Taking responsibility for ideas you support is a town-tell.
|
|
#
¿
May 28, 2016 18:26
|
|
|
Podima posted:Ok great cool. I attempted to cop MMT and was roleblocked last night. You investigated Ernie the night before, right? So we have nothing to go off of.
|
|
#
¿
May 30, 2016 19:28
|
|
|
Sorry I've been absent. There's no good excuse for that. I've had a lot to catch up on, but here's where I stand right now on everybody: CapitalistPig The only posts they have made over the course of the game longer than two lines were their vote for EXAKT Science and their excuse for not being present (a LAN party). This is their 214th game, including other current games, according to vote finder. This level of detail I can only attribute to willful bad posting. Why would someone want to willfully be that useless? One of my top scum picks for today. Hal Incandenza Hal hasn't made any posts longer than two lines. This is Hal's 373rd game. For the same reasons as CPig, a top scum pick. Jedit Jedit reads like an honest townie trying to scum hunt. I can't point to any specific post that really drives home this point for me. It's really just the totality of their posting that gives me that impression. I don't think I would be comfortable with a Jedit lynch today, or ever (unless something new comes up). Li Dawny Li Dawny posted:Honestly, I don't believe EXAKT for a second. If I'm understanding game mechanics correctly, sk isn't a faction. Meaning a doctor wouldn't have been able to save him from one. Also, a doctor can only block one shot a night, so a combo between a sk and scum would still take out an individual. Given that, why did neither scum nor sk even attempt to nk EXAKT unless he's not the cop. Now, I believe Quid, correct me if I'm wrong, made the 'scum would nk the doctor first' argument (could have been TQ, it's been a hectic night). But the doctor can't save the cop from both of them, and scum would know this, so what happened? Quidnose Quidnose, I have a question for you: Why have you been pushing to lynch Li Dawny so hard the entire game? I get that some of their behavior has been a little scummy, but you basically hopped on the lynch train day one and haven't gotten off of it. Li Dawny's behavior doesn't seem exceptionally scummy to me, so maybe I'm missing something. But it's off-putting. Either neither of y'all is scum, or exactly one is. S4SB I've said plenty about S4SB already, and I still feel the same. suicide4sexbots posted:nfyd omg dad fine This post is really bad, and whitenoise-esque. All in all, no content, no contributions, and when pushed takes no real opinions. Scum or SK if I've ever seen it. Truth Quark Reads town to me. I wouldn't be comfortable with a lynch today. This in particular: Truth Quark posted:I am siding with Pod because the timing of Exakt's claim was loving dumb (well it was a good scum play but you know). A good, prescient post. So my scum picks are S4SB, Hal, and CPig. One of LD and Quidnose might also be scum, but that seems less likely to me. ##vote suicide4sexbots I should have done that a long time ago.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 1, 2016 05:34
|
|
|
Hal Incandenza posted:Good post Rye. You'd have to be a serial killer to willingly drive through rural Wyoming!  In all seriousness, it doesn't really change anything. The reads will be useful if you flip, but it's hard to make a read on a scarcity of words. The only thing I feel I can safely judge you by is your posting record. I don't think Hal and Pig would be on the same scum team. Two experience players posting like that, with only two scum left alive, would be strange. I'd imagine at least one member of the scum team is someone trying to control the narrative of the game a little more actively. But the pair could be mafia/serial killer or something.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 1, 2016 05:41
|
|
|
Quidnose posted:Why don't we just take out a Cpig/S4S wildcard and politely ask the SK to kill Li tonight? Yeah? Can you do that, SK? This is a horrifying post and reads to me like scum trying to get the serial killer to kill LD. This is bad enough that I've changed my mind on Quidnose. ##unvote ##vote Quidnose
|
|
#
¿
Jun 1, 2016 17:46
|
|
|
Quidnose posted:##vote Quidnose I'm out, peace. Fixed.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 1, 2016 17:49
|
|
|
I stand by my vote. Communication between the scum team and the serial killer would be pretty game-changing, if it were to happen. I think that whole joke signals deeper knowledge about the night kills that have happened and will happened than any member of the town would have.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 1, 2016 18:27
|
|
|
Podima posted:Explain this further. How does Quid's post indicate knowledge of previous night kills? I misspoke. Doesn't say anything about previous night kills, just future ones. It's that they talk about the town lynch (out of their control), and the SK kill (out of their control), but not the mafia nightkill. I think it's a slip.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 1, 2016 18:31
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ Apr 26, 2024 17:21 |
|
|
I think everyone (mostly Quidnose) needs to take a breath and relax. It's just a game. I would support a lynch of S4SB in addition to Quidnose at this point. S4SB hasn't done anything to quell my suspicions. CPig seems less suspicious by the post. Jedit posted:Except I called Quid out for talking about Murmur's kill as if it were the Mafia NK and ignoring the SK kill, and Quid clarified I was right in that. You are literally posting the reverse of reality. I was talking about that specific post- There is reason to believe Quidnose has more knowledge about night kills than a townie should, but it wasn't from that specific post.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 1, 2016 18:40
|
|