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Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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I got the Vive on a black friday sale and I've been very happy with it. I can't wait to play a game that doesn't feel like an inflated tech demo. (other than Water Bears. That game is rad.) People who like Rec Room might also like VRChat. It's got a similar feature set, with interesting locales. I like how it combines the vive teleport controls with an avatar for multiplayer functionality.

I have a few questions for those that have gone before me though.

Firstly, Is there any way to make Whirligig stop stuttering? When I try to research it people say "Download the Codec tweak tool!" but then don't actually say what to do with it. I have the LAV codec enabled, and my videos still are choppy. I know it's not the video because I can play it in mplayer outside of VR and it's not choppy there. Is there a different player that people use instead?

Secondly, Has anybody tried using VorpX on the Vive? Their vive support is still listed as beta, but I'm not finding any reviews on it that aren't months old. I don't want to drop the money on a product that doesn't work right. On the other hand, I can think of no better use of VR than running around Skyrim, it seems like the best way to play actual AAA immersive-world games. I've been pretty immune to VR vertigo (VRtigo?) so far.

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Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Flashbackjack posted:

Deo vr player is lightweight and simple to use. Should help with the stuttering.

https://deovr.com/

This program works flawlessly. Worlds less clunky than Whirligig, thanks!



Anybody have experience with VorpX on the Vive?

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

That is a peckin' lot of bird...
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I think the lab is the best intro. Start on the mountain or the place with too many consonants to get acclimated to it without any game effects.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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It should be, it spawned roughly half of the indie vr games that are on steam right now. :v:

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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GlyphGryph posted:

I remember this, it was super weird. After my first long session it was like everything was slightly off and fake and not solid and also the wrong distance away.

ActualReality feels weird, doesn't it?

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Vermintide is basically awful.

I got job simulator though, and it owns.

Honestly I have been spending most of my time in VR on my futon in Bigscreen Beta playing hearthstone and Shantae.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Does VD (heh) do anything BS (heh) doesn't feature-wise? Big screen seems to cover the bases pretty well for free if the only difference is a few backgrounds.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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StarkRavingMad posted:

But Whirligig is a pure video player, it doesn't have a desktop type environment.

I found much better performance in DeoVR. Whirligig wouldn't stop stuttering (GTX 980)

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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So this is a thing coming out:

http://www.roadtovr.com/lenovos-new-vr-headset-packs-pixels-lower-price-weight-rift-vive/

Shame it probably won't work well in room space.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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I tried 8k VR today (dual 4k) and it was very pretty. The headset had poor tracking and no roomspace but the visuals were great. The fov was really great.

Technology marches on ...

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Surprise Giraffe posted:

That sounds pretty awesome, which was it?

It was pimax. The wide fov 8k one had a bad seam at 30 left and right, but their 4k headset was pretty good.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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It said 90 but I don't think it is was running at that. No real demo though, just that VR ready conker-like game.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Oh it was enormous, but it had a wide fov, to the point where you could look left past the 3d space into peripheral vision. 200 degrees as they tell it. Problem is there was a visible distortion seam where your eyes go from front 3d into periphery, so dual edged sword there.

It was a clunky size and shape but pretty light honestly.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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It was hooked up to a non-msi laptop, so I can guarantee I wasn't getting the full experience. :v:

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Every booth has a vive hooked up to demo, and only one of them has a good lighthouse setup. Occlusion everywhere.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Display Port's Wireless display link 60ghz vive hookup worked flawlessly.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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I can link a Facebook post tonight, it was at Displayport's booth at CES. I got to demo it.

E: they claim it has sub frame transmission at 60fps.

Alpha Phoenix fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jan 7, 2017

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

That is a peckin' lot of bird...
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Neddy Seagoon posted:

Even if it died on the desktop (which I really doubt at this point given how many companies are going in on the tech), I'd actually expect GearVR or something like it to keep the idea going. It actually works unlike how fudged Cardboard is, and the buy-in is only about $100-150 on top of a smartphone a sizeable number of people already own. Or can be bought for the price of a phone plan, nevermind the possible freebie gift of one that might occur with said plan.

Isn't Daydream basically Gear+1? It has a functional controller and whatnot.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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SwissCM posted:

In 10 years (or so, here's hoping) we'll probably have portable devices that are just as powerful as a modern gaming PC...

The Tegra 4 has about the power of an 8800gt and that's only a ~6 year gap. (Numbers may be off, just a rough Google search)


Hadlock posted:

Yeah people are already quoting 1.5, 2 hours uptime on a Google Pixel phone when watching movies in VR today.

Can confirm. I watched a 90 min movie on my Pixel XL in a big spacious movie theatre while my butt was planted in a 17" wide Spirit airline seat. My battery was still good enough for GPS afterwards.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

That is a peckin' lot of bird...
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Most of my VR hours are playing Hearthstone in BigScreen tbh

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

That is a peckin' lot of bird...
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I'm just gonna put this here and say that I tried it at CES and it was full bonkers perfect performance. http://uploadvr.com/tpcasts-vive-add-kit-uses-lattices-wirelesshd-tech/

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Truga posted:

Do we know why?

For the low price of $300 you can add virtually no new functionality to ~10% of the games you play!

It would add a lot of potential in VR though. But it lacks value right now.


Cojawfee posted:

No one is sitting quietly, but we have to wait for technology to catch up. 1200p screens at 90hz, with low persistence and global update is the standard.
4k and 8k VR exists at least in prototype. Pimax isn't a 3d roomspace gaming company though, but the hardware works.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

So this is strange, but VR is a fad in Las Vegas casinos right now. Walk into Caeser's palace or the Linq and there's all these posters with Vives and Oculus Rifts and you can apparently play the same games you have at home - there are even entire stores that just offer Las Vegas VR experiences now.

I'm sure it's just CeS booths that lost their hotel money and are working their way home.



Dongattack posted:

holy poo poo im literally siting infront of my virtual campfire moving windows arkund and typing this with touch

the future is hers and im that fat guy permanently stuck in vr

i havent figured out the shift key sorry

VRChat or BigScreen?

Alpha Phoenix fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Feb 3, 2017

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

That is a peckin' lot of bird...
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I feel like big picture would be awesome with steam workshop. The existing areas are kinda boring and I want to chill and play desktop gamed in much cooler areas.

Also we should do stuff on Sunday since last time was Saturday.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

That is a peckin' lot of bird...
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I have a daydream and pixel XL, and it has that issue, except it needs to recenter every 5-10 min, not 30 sec. That definitely seems like an issue.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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SEKCobra posted:

So I got myself a Vive yesterday, any recommendations on what I should install/buy/experience for sure?

BigScreen, Rec Room, VRchat, Water Bears,

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Songbearer posted:

Robo Recall solves the question of "What reload system works best in an action game?" by giving you infinite new york reloads so you can just pull out an endless stream of guns like some sort of ballistic magician. Defeat enemies by throwing guns at them!

Borderlands VR When?

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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The Walrus posted:

Though it may be worth waiting for SS2 VR, as it'll probably be $40 also and it's a much longer game.

System Shock 2 VR?

Hold on, let me put down a tarp for when I inevitably piss myself...

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Job Sim was fun. It isn't the best VR game in the world but it's perfectly fine.



iceaim posted:

Wow the number of people playing Rick and Morty (over 900) on VRLFG.net is pretty incredible.

I can't wait to see what kind of numbers Fallout 4 VR generates. I hope it also results in more headset sales.

Does that have a release date planned?

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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AndrewP posted:

Point and click is infinitely more appealing to me when I am inhabiting the world. Someone make Grim Fandango VR.

I'm imagining how good an Artifex Mundi hidden object/point & click adventure game will be in VR.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Tbh I play a lot of ska in audioshield. I put it on easy, dance like a fool, and love it.

So far I haven't liked soundboxing as much because I feel like it wants me to focus on beat and score instead of just faffing about to the music.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

That is a peckin' lot of bird...
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ok so I 'figured out' soundboxing. Apparently what I was doing wrong was that my random choices of cool songs were just stupidly hard. I was repeatedly getting slaughtered in some cocaine and ritalin-fueled techno beatmap of the damned.

I loaded it up again and tried 'Happy.' It was at a fun pace to get used to the game, as opposed to what I was trying before.

I still like Audioshield better so far, if simply because it algorithms my library of ska and video game music, and includes built-in difficulty settings, plus access to music that isn't on youtube for whatever copyright reason. But I finally see what the hype is about.

Is there any way to sort songs by difficulty? Is there a guide for what the buttons ingame mean? I have zero clue what 0/39 means or why I click it to make it 0/40. Heart seems to favourite it though, I figured that poo poo out. Is there a forum where I can request someone to beatmap my lovely taste in music?

Alpha Phoenix fucked around with this message at 07:26 on May 6, 2017

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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KakerMix posted:

Yes but you are going to have this big thing sitting in that space that you now have to worry about. An empty space used for VR can also be used for all sorts of other things when it isn't being used for VR. A omni-directional treadmill can't. Plus an empty room is much cheaper than an empty room plus a treadmill.

Not necessarily, it looks like the upper part of the Omni can be removed, and the rest can slide under a futon. Unless it's 200 lbs, people can pull it out for VR and put it away afterwards.

I slide a futon out of the way each time I go into VR (2-4x week) and it's no hassle for me.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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KakerMix posted:

Hey now maybe I'll play Payday

This is where I am. Never played any version of it, but I'd buy it to see how an official triple A VR port is handled.


Edit: Reference for new page,

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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If I'm not able to play Mossflower VR on my PC am going to cry. Those books were a huge part of my childhood but I'm not planning on buying a PS4 & PSVR when my pc and Vive are still kicking.

Edit:  Sony will be the company who can offer a complete kit to a customer, including the game station and the VR set, for under $1k. As such it will be the main force driving the VR industry for the next couple of years, probably until the next generation of PC headsets. If VR is going to take off in the mainstream market and attract big devs, we need to cheer them on hard.

Alpha Phoenix fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Jun 13, 2017

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Kid posted:

Thanks, hopefully that gets added soon as the Home is really neat.

Or the objects you can place that launch games like another poster mentioned, some pedestals with orbs/items on top, poster of the game on the wall behind it. drag them to your head to play.

It would be neat to get 3rd party launcher software honestly.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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AgentF posted:

How does this even count as a policy? "We will do something, unless we don't."

I think they need to check a box on some legal form saying they have a policy in place.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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Tom Guycot posted:


EDIT: god drat it... lol I went into unreal to grab you a quick screenshot of how it looked with non baked in lighting:


I don't know unreal or if this makes sense, but is there some way to add lights that match the RL ones, then invert them to add darkness, capture textures, then add the lights in unreal so that it counterbalances back to neutral rather than adding unreal lights into a lit room? The neutral could give you more versatility in lighting placement.

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

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homeless snail posted:

Do a lot of people still play Pavlov?

I just bought it and I don't like it tbh. Played a few games, couldn't figure out how to buy anything so I capped a teammate and took their gun. :commissar:

It felt like slower CS 1.2ish gameplay with clunky reloads that took my eyes off of the battlefield.


I got Serious Sam too, and it works better for me with no reloads and fast pace. Though the first time a skeleton attacked from behind I pood a little.

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Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

That is a peckin' lot of bird...
:kazooieass::kazooieass::kazooieass:

Reminds me of https://i.imgur.com/eD0JGvE_d.jpg

Honestly I use audioshield/soundboxing as a workout routine. My dog would probably rather me go on a walk but damnit, I need to hit bubbles in cyberspace!

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