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Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Lemming posted:

I also like the settings for moving the screen around better, VD doesn't give you as many options for positioning.

VD lets you put the screen anywhere at any angle if you set it to floating. Setting it to the ceiling while lying down on the couch to watch a movie is amazing. I bound a key to reset the position to my universal remote, but I really wish they would add Vive controller support.

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Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

BossTweed posted:

Hope everyone is ready to enjoy VR reproductions of everyone's VR dens, aka their parent's basement.

If you can't wait, the SteamVR Workshop has you covered already.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

BossTweed posted:

I played around in Destinations for a few minutes. It seems like a pretty nice setup for people to build their own little worlds for you to explore. They let you control how people move within the world you build (free teleport or teleport to little destination pads), support an easy way to have a floating information popup that can describe where you are, and you can give things animation that can be triggered by your location. I am wondering how complex the animations and triggers can be.

They seem to have ported over a lot of the entity system from Source 1, including a bunch of Half-Life 2 specific entities (that probably don't work in the actual game). You probably could build quite complicated scenes, maybe even some simple interactive games.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Hierophant posted:

If you're in the seated position (not sure how it determines it, maybe where you were during room setup and it asked you to point at the monitor, or where you are when you press F12 in E:D to recenter) then the chaperone bounds won't appear.

You can reset the seated position from the settings menu in the VR overlay too.


Ciaphas posted:

Moving on from poor taste puns: it's probably the lack of sleep that's making me dumb, but what's the practical purpose of Virtual Desktop? I mean ok sure nice backgrounds, fine, but is there some use case I can't think of that's better than "take off the headset"?

It's really good for watching movies while lying down on a bed/couch.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

El Grillo posted:

What would be really cool would be an app which just has chilled spaces to hang out in. A beach with a sunset, stuff like that. Somewhere you can sit on the ground and just chill out enjoying the view. Anyone know of anything like this, on Steam etc?

Destinations would be good for that. There is not much content for it yet though, so you'd have to hope someone creates a beach for it (or make one yourself).

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Pi Mu Rho posted:

I was considering porting some of my old Zombie Master maps to it, just for a look around them in VR. But I decided to try a bit of photogrammetry instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHpgJvcAB0Q

(first pass, very crude)

Nice work.

I'm planning to port over the skyscraper helipad of my L4D2 map, it just seems like it's going to be a lot of work porting over the assets to Source 2. I already tired making a SteamVR photosphere, but it doesn't convey the height well enough.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Zsinjeh posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMwAo6J_ug I am cracking the gently caress up at this Pirate Guy in this video. Great example of how social vr can be, even with only one guy talking

Filmed in :barf: o vision. VR dosen't make me sick, but I can barely watch that video.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

SwissCM posted:

Not strictly VR related and more academic than a product, here is an interesting piece of technology that Microsoft Research developed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dkcJ1YhYw4

Real-time holographic capture is something that is sorely needed, it's nice to see there's progress being made. It has a lot of applications for AR/VR.

Microsoft doing the groundwork to bring quality VR porn to the masses. :pervert:

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Lemming posted:

https://github.com/Hotrian/OpenVRDesktopDisplayPortal

Looks like someone made a screen injector (ie have windows of other programs running inside of VR apps)

Someone should try it out, this would fulfill my dream of space trucking in Elite while watching tv like a fatass

Trip report: Totally works in elite! You can position the overlay anywhere in the world, and even make it to fade away or shrink when you're not looking directly at it.

The frame rate is too low for movies though. I tried with Chrome and MPC-HC, Chrome was a slideshow, MPC worked OK for talking heads, but action scenes were still horrible.

Edit: Could be that the low frame rate is something on my end.

Rectus fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Jul 21, 2016

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Overlay update. For some reason shrinking down the window does wonders to the FPS. It's also possible to run multiple overlays at once, by running multiple instances of the program. Now you too can watch top tier animes and reading shitposts while flying your spaceship.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

EdEddnEddy posted:

That was something that the "V" guys with their overlay were working on. They said that Elite has issues due to its Engine not being Unity/Unreal so its taking them a bit longer to get it working. Probably the same reason it isn't working for Rift in Elite either which is unfortunate.

The second it works in the Rift and Elite is the second I am back to playing Elite. At least we know we are close.

The issue is probably just that Elite tries to use the Oculus runtime over SteamVR when it detects a Rift. Ironically the Revive injector might help it run on the rift.

Rectus fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Jul 23, 2016

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Cojawfee posted:

Subnautica is early access and has VR support. There's some survival but you can choose how much survival down to just having no resources and you can just build whatever you want and look at things. It's early access and hasn't gone through the performance optimization yet, so framerates won't be the best.

Even without official Vive support, Subnautica works really well through ReVive. Aside for occasional framerate lag it's a really good VR game.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Are there any games out there using grappling hooks for movement? I made a barnacle grapple in Destinations and found it really fun to use, but I haven't seen any actual games that take advantage of grappling.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

sliderule posted:

Windlands is 100% grappling simulator.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/428370/

Cool, going to have to buy that when it goes on sale.


Surprise Giraffe posted:

You can craft one in subnautica now

Does it work underwater? If so it sounds really fun.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Basic Chunnel posted:

Does anybody know if they found an easy way to unlock VR functionality for Alien: Isolation? I know it's been done but I don't know if it's necessarily something you can just up and do, that will probably be my first stop when I get a VR setup.

I'm just now realizing that the area I'd use for VR is only like 7x7, probably not ideal.

It's possible to use the VorpX injector to get it partially working, it's far from perfect and takes a lot of tinkering though.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

TomR posted:

Are the Vive wands or Touch controllers tracked well enough to act as joystick inputs if you attach them to the end of a stick that has the other end anchored like a joystick? The base would have to be mounted in place so it can't move so the zero point would be accurate, but I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work.

I don't see why they wouldn't be. You could probably even use them as free six axis controllers by setting a reference point when you pull the trigger, and measuring how much you've moved it.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Senor Tron posted:

The tracking should be fine, although if you are going to the effort of building a physical mechanism to hold them you may as well just use an actual joystick.

With the motion controller you'd get positional tracking for free tho. A joystick driver that also renders an overlay stick would be dope.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

El Grillo posted:

Tested looked at Lone Echo, one of the big games announced at OC3. Seems like it could be really loving cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggZvKL3pArc

That looks awesome, and it seems like it could be easily integrated with things like grappling hooks. I hope more games will implement that kind of motion.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Tom Guycot posted:

That game looks amazing and I can't wait to play it, but as well as that mode of locomotion looks to work, its pretty niche. It's hard to see 'zero g confined spaces with a lot to grab onto' as a big genre.

Even without zero g, grabbing onto things is really intuitive and easy to implement. You get some really fine control on how you move relative to the environment. I even managed to sort of implement by accident in Destinations with the barnacle grapple.

It could be useful as a secondary locomotion mode. Imagine having it in something like Onward, where you have to peek and shoot a lot around corners and over cover, but you can't lean on it in reality. You could grab onto the cover and pull yourself just to the right position without having to crouch or stand in a tedious position.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

The SteamVR beta just got updated with support for asynchronous reprojection. It only works for Nvidia cards for the moment though. I just tested with Elite, and it went from a jerkfest insides stations to buttery smooth even with supersampling on.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Vince MechMahon posted:

Do any videos even do depth?

A lot of 180/360 videos have depth. Positional tracking won't work with any 180/360 videos though, since it always projects you at the center of the video sphere. If you watch something like a 3D blu ray (not sure if that's possible with the PSVR yet) on a virtual screen though, it gets a lot less sickening with positional tracking on.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Screwing around with locomotion methods is fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0poaEuqkrFU

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Warbird posted:

Is there some existing community for VR devs where they compare notes? I looked around for one a couple of months back with little success

The SteamVR Dev Hardware group seems to have a lot of devs posting at least.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/358720/discussions/

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Thor-Stryker posted:

The real question is, when will Valve will get back to gaming? I mean large swaths of their staff were game developers only, what the gently caress happened to them all?

Probably all working on pet projects. I'm expecting Half Life 3 to come out supporting Smell-o-Vision and wireless teledildonics.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

El Grillo posted:

I think they're done by photogrammetry aren't they, so this might be somewhat tricky for Valve to accomplish.

Well they've done one for Mars from the Curiosity cameras. I wonder if NASA has any good enough photo sets from the moon.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

AndrewP posted:

Ripcoil's "lean" function makes me think there's possibly a cool skiing or snowboarding game out there ready to be made. Could easily turn into a vomit comet, but it'd be cool if someone tried making some kind of rudimentary demo.

I managed to add staking locomotion with skiing poles to Destinations (although without accelereration). This makes me want to try to extend it to full downhill skiing.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Zero VGS posted:

Anyone know a free way to bring something like a Sketchup model into roomscale VR? https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com has a ton of 3D models that I want to arrange together and walk around in a holodeck.

Valve made Destinations for pretty much that. It also lets you upload your creations to the Steam workshop easily. The model importer can be a bit tricky to get working right though.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

I wonder if it would be viable to find a comfortable helmet, and mount the HMD on it on a hinge. You would probably have to remove the hood from it to get it close enough, but ti wouldn't need to be pressed up to your face anymore, so it would be possibly be a lot more comfortable.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008


It's good, trust me.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Falken posted:

What backgrounds are you guys using? I've been using the Holodeck since day 1 and can't really think of anything quite as fitting.

I like the holodeck entrance + a background image.

Also, shameless plug for the frog:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=688475999

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

John Wick Chronicles is also up for pre-order for 20 bucks on Steam and includes a copy of Payday 2, so it's not worth getting the bundle unless you want DbD and all of that DLC.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

I somehow managed to make a skiing thing for Destinations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlVX3DNCFoA

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=851765393

Anyone want to test it to see if you get motion sick?

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

GlyphGryph posted:

If they want more after that, they get GORN.

Or just go straight up for GORN. Make sure you have enough space and nothing punchable anywhere near the play space.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Tweak posted:

It's great! only wish the run was longer or that I could go faster (though maybe I just needed to push more). Escaping it took me a second to figure out though since the menu freaks out if you're moving. I had to steady myself with one pole while I picked from the destination's menu with the other.

Thanks. I think I set up the drag to be a bit high, so the speed caps out pretty fast. I probably could set it up to stop or pause the speed while you have the menu up.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008


Can't wait to get back home to see that all my maps are broken.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Rectus posted:

Can't wait to get back home to see that all my maps are broken.

Oh hey, Valve actually added a lot of my suggestions, including generic scriptable tools you can pick up and use. And only half of my maps are broken!

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Destinations is pretty much a multiplayer The Lab and Tiltbrush now. They added a lot of tools to play around with, like a 3D paintbrush and a remote control drone. You can have drone duels! Managed to get mine stuck in a rope tho.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Sefal posted:

Got my vive, set it all up. It's amazing. but it seems to be a bit blurry on some places. i guess i need to set the ipd?
What are some of the stuff i should buy/try out? And what would be fun for a 8 and 6 year old?

My relatives kids had a lot of fun drawing in Tiltbrush and loved the robot dog in The Lab when they got to try it.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008


Climbey style grabbing locomotion is really awesome and I wish more games implemented it. Grabbing the world with the motion controller and moving yourself around feels perfectly natural and doesn't seem to cause motion sickness. It also seems really easy to add to a game.

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Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Prisjakt is good for finding them both in Sweden and norway:
https://www.prisjakt.no/category.php?m=s307952100

No idea on which ones would be good tho.

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