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How will you be voting in the UKEU Referendum? This poll is closed. |
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| Remain - Keep Britane Strong! |
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328 | 15.40% |
| Leave - Take Are Sovreignity Back! |
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115 | 5.40% |
| Remain - But only because Brexit are crazy |
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506 | 23.76% |
| Leave - But only because the EU is terrible |
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157 | 7.37% |
| Spoiled Ballot - This whole thing is an awful idea |
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61 | 2.86% |
| I'm not going to vote |
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19 | 0.89% |
| I'm not allowed to vote |
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411 | 19.30% |
| Pissflaps |
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533 | 25.02% |
| Total: | 2130 votes | ||
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feedmegin posted:And, y'know, imprisoned/shot a whole lot. e: 4 - A number unpopular in parts of the Far East and Guildford. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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it's hard to see how these expenses investigations don't result in some kind of prosecution, since we know the rules were broken, the tories are just claiming it was an accident presumably at some point the tories will try to use the commons to change the rules retroactively??
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Jun 1, 2016 17:07
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So Mark Rutte has said that EU would be forced to retaliate with a point system of its own. Not unexpected, but I wonder how many people would be screwed over exactly.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:07
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Darth Walrus posted:I sort of feel like the IDS resignation was a no-go area because nobody really knew what to make of it - it was impossible that it was a genuine matter of conscience (and nobody wanted to help with that loathsome little fucker's political rehabilitation), and nobody knew his real motive. As a result, it was just too hard to figure out an angle of attack on. For the media perhaps, but Labour should have just treated IDS's supposed morality with scorn while simultaneously harping on that the measures were too harsh even for him. Then reveal their own plan filled with nice new ideas gleaned from the cadre of interesting modern leftists they recruited then sidelined. They could just go "look at how poo poo they're doing, heres our good policy" almost indefinitely with every new Tory scandal. Unfortunately Labour is riven with intersectional conflict that Corbyn seems to be trying to half ignore while also getting endlessly distracted by it. Corbyn & Co and the PLP share an equal portion of the blame for this, although the PLP did fire the first shots (Unless you consider winning the leadership a shot).
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Jun 1, 2016 17:10
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Serotonin posted:They did limp on, and i think it wasnt till early 90s that many got some small form of compensation. It certainly paved the way for the CJA I have a vague recollection that that at least part of the reason for CJA was the court cases around the Peace Convoy (and some of the miners strike cases) concluding that no, the police can't just say "You lot are all getting nicked" and kicking the poo poo out of everyone, which was obviously seriously cramping their style, so they wrote off to Santa and asked for a new Riot Act.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:11
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Private Speech posted:So Mark Rutte has said that EU would be forced to retaliate with a point system of its own. Not unexpected, but I wonder how many people would be screwed over exactly. Just like they did in Eurovision '03 
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Jun 1, 2016 17:11
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Prince John posted:I don't care about the landowners' hurt feelings, but loving up an archeological site is not cool. Police and landowners also claimed the travellers had firearms and petrol bombs, so personaly Id take what was said by them with a pinch of salt
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Jun 1, 2016 17:11
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I'm hopeful that the recently reported swing towards leave is enough of a catalyst to actually provoke a large turnout on the day for remain
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Jun 1, 2016 17:16
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Serotonin posted:Police and landowners also claimed the travellers had firearms and petrol bombs, so personaly Id take what was said by them with a pinch of salt Wikipedia references the academic journal World Archeology for these particular allegations though, so I'm assuming they're bang to rights on this, although I don't have my login details to hand at work to check the article in detail. http://www.jstor.org/stable/124661 Prince John fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Jun 1, 2016 17:22
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Tesseraction posted:I'd posted about it on the last page. Apologies, new thread moving quite quickly and I’m quite lazy. Re. the papers I suspect it’s all getting a bit real for them and they are considering their legals. The Brexit bunch could use this to hurt Cameron and my instinct is that if they can they will, even if they benefitted it is still Cameron’s ship.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:25
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VileLL posted:I'm hopeful that the recently reported swing towards leave is enough of a catalyst to actually provoke a large turnout on the day for remain It's what sparked the three party leaders (lol remember when there were three in England) to take a trip together. Forever dooming Labour to "those assholes" in the eyes of the Skawts.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:27
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Tesseraction posted:Yeah. As I recall a set few questions are provided in advance, and the rest are allowed to be off the cuff, primarily because if they're all scripted then the Prime Minister could say something and no-one would be able to respond to it. Effectively making it Prime Minister's recital. Technically all the questions (I think apart from those from opposition leaders) are submitted in advance, it's just that they're all "Will the Prime Minister list his official engagements for the day", which is always the first question asked. This is because when your question's already been asked you're allowed a follow up question on the same subject which, because of the open nature of the initial question, can be about pretty much anything.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:27
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Tesseraction posted:It's what sparked the three party leaders (lol remember when there were three in England) to take a trip together. Forever dooming Labour to "those assholes" in the eyes of the Skawts. I wish they had filmed that trip like The Trip. That would be fun.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:28
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Darth Walrus posted:I sort of feel like the IDS resignation was a no-go area because nobody really knew what to make of it - it was impossible that it was a genuine matter of conscience (and nobody wanted to help with that loathsome little fucker's political rehabilitation), and nobody knew his real motive. As a result, it was just too hard to figure out an angle of attack on. I guess... I dunno, I still feel they missed an opportunity somewhere to press home the advantage - although, I guess it would have been too easy to turn the "divided party" argument back onto labour.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:28
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Zalakwe posted:Apologies, new thread moving quite quickly and I’m quite lazy. Actually given my MP is most likely one of the cheating fuckers and is heavily Brexit I have a feeling they'll have a gentleman's agreement with Remain to keep this one under wraps. Labour's Remain would be best placed to call them out on it. Or Tim... Ti... Tim... uhhhh
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Jun 1, 2016 17:29
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Party Boat posted:Technically all the questions (I think apart from those from opposition leaders) are submitted in advance, it's just that they're all "Will the Prime Minister list his official engagements for the day", which is always the first question asked. This is because when your question's already been asked you're allowed a follow up question on the same subject which, because of the open nature of the initial question, can be about pretty much anything. I believe this is only true for the first 10 questions, however. The rest are submitted to the speaker in advance, but not the prime minister.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:30
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Party Boat posted:Technically all the questions (I think apart from those from opposition leaders) are submitted in advance, it's just that they're all "Will the Prime Minister list his official engagements for the day", which is always the first question asked. This is because when your question's already been asked you're allowed a follow up question on the same subject which, because of the open nature of the initial question, can be about pretty much anything.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:32
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Oh yeah there's also the speaker-selected ones which I don't think are prepped or chosen at all, they just bob up and down until they catch his eye. gently caress our parliament's dumb.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:33
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I'm surprised there's no talk of the Vice documentary in here: https://news.vice.com/video/jeremy-corbyn-the-outsider
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Jun 1, 2016 17:50
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Plucky Brit posted:I'm surprised there's no talk of the Vice documentary in here: Go back a page or two.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:53
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Only Jewish potential candidate for Labour NEC has been blocked from standing because Jim Murphy called her an anti-Semite. Jesus tap-dancing Christ on a stick.
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Jun 1, 2016 17:57
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TinTower posted:Only Jewish potential candidate for Labour NEC has been blocked from standing because Jim Murphy called her an anti-Semite. I'm pretty sure the Labour right have just decided that if they don't get to run the Labour Party then no-one does, and they're just going to sabotage the party from here on out.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:04
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It's the nakedness with which they use concern trolling. That's where the Labour right truly shine.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:04
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Baron Corbyn posted:I'm pretty sure the Labour right have just decided that if they don't get to run the Labour Party then no-one does, and they're just going to sabotage the party from here on out. Tony Blair openly said it would be better for Labour to lose with his wing in charge than win with Corbyn in charge and given rumours of questions being leaked to David Cameron from Labour insiders I'm betting he's not the only one.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:06
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Prince John posted:Wikipedia references the academic journal World Archeology for these particular allegations though, so I'm assuming they're bang to rights on this, although I don't have my login details to hand at work to check the article in detail. They pissed on coppers and stole from the dead
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Jun 1, 2016 18:10
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Gonzo McFee posted:It's the nakedness with which they use concern trolling. That's where the Labour right truly shine. Quite. Labour Students have spent the past year openly marginalising Muslim students – including members of their own party – but are suddenly a massive anti-racism vanguard now that a Muslim woman who said some (admittedly badly-worded) things about Israeli foreign policy is now NUS president.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:12
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I'm not sure which element of that story is more ridiculous, the idea that a former president of the Oxford University Jewish Society and preferred candidate of the Jewish Labour Movement is somehow a vicious antisemite, or the fact that Jim Murphy is still relevant other than as a warning to others.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:16
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Serotonin posted:They pissed on coppers and stole from the dead That's not a valid comparison though. These events happened a year before and were the cause of the original injunction that kicked off the battle the following year. There isn't the same fact pattern of confrontation with police leading to an establishment coverup, because the confrontation hadn't happened yet. Also there's a difference between an academic journal and anonymous sources in the Sun. (I will have to dig out my jstor login now to make sure it's a sensible article).
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Jun 1, 2016 18:21
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Baron Corbyn posted:Apparently someone is leaking Corbyn's PMQs to Cameron before he answers them. So Cameron's complete non-answers and unrelated personal attacks are with time to prepare for them. Strictly speaking though the video tells us that Seamus Milne believes they are being leaked in advance, which could just reflect paranoia on his part. I mean, how much advance notice does Cameron need to prepare an answer of "never mind that, what about Ken Livingstone?"
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Jun 1, 2016 18:24
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I look forward to Dan Hodges, John Mann and Nick Cohen all comment on this. They've been so quick to leap on anti-Semitism before. Surely they will attack Jim Murphy for his naked attempts to keep a Jewish woman from office.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:25
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Paxman posted:Strictly speaking though the video tells us that Seamus Milne believes they are being leaked in advance, which could just reflect paranoia on his part. I mean, how much advance notice does Cameron need to prepare an answer of "never mind that, what about Ken Livingstone?" TinTower posted:Only Jewish potential candidate for Labour NEC has been blocked from standing because Jim Murphy called her an anti-Semite.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:28
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Baron Corbyn posted:Apparently someone is leaking Corbyn's PMQs to Cameron before he answers them. So Cameron's complete non-answers and unrelated personal attacks are with time to prepare for them. Everyone take guess on who it is. Pissflaps posted:The Scottish Referendum result wasn't close, let alone very close. It was literally 5% away from being 50/50. How the gently caress can you be in denial over that. TinTower posted:Only Jewish potential candidate for Labour NEC has been blocked from standing because Jim Murphy called her an anti-Semite. The same man that wanted to reintroduce alcohol in football matches and preety much helped destroyed Scottish Labour even further. Man should of been hit by a brick instead of an egg.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:41
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Extreme0 posted:
But it wasn't. Yes lost by 10%. That's not close. If you want close, look to the last Quebec independence referendum result. That was close.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:47
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Pissflaps is right, 55-45 is not generally regarded as a close election result. The 2008 American election, for example, was regarded as "decisive" and was 53-46.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:49
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Extreme0 posted:Everyone take guess on who it is. Corbyn. 
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Jun 1, 2016 18:56
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Steve2911 posted:Corbyn. It is him but on a critical PMQS he'll send over a fake set of questions and make David look completely insane as he gets flustered and spouts more irrelevant nonsense than usual. June 22nd maybe.
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Jun 1, 2016 19:11
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Please let this be true.
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Jun 1, 2016 19:14
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The 2008 American election, for example, was regarded as "decisive" and was 53-46. It was decisive because the result was 68% - 32%.
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Jun 1, 2016 19:14
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Pissflaps posted:But it wasn't. Yes lost by 10%. That's not close. 44.7% to 50.1% to win is 5.4%, If Yes lost by 10% that would mean the vote total for Yes is 39.7% If you keep the actual Yes Vote result at 44.7% while saying they lost by 10% that means they would of had to reach 10.9% which would put the amount of votes for Yes at 55% and No Vote as 45% to win it which isn't part of the condition otherwise you would have the total votes be 105% for the current voting results if Yes lost by 10% which isn't mathimatically possible in a referendum. MrL_JaKiri posted:The 2008 American election, for example, was regarded as "decisive" and was 53-46. It's decisive because it actually has one side having more then the other. Decisive and Close are not both the same thing. Extreme0 fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Jun 1, 2016 19:29
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Kaislioc posted:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-camerons-former-advisor-admits-8088612 mail straight up calls the pics indecent, will probably post an op-ed about the increasing sexualisation of the young
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